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December 2022 Medium-Long Range Disco


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I have nothing useful to add except that It’s so good to be tracking storms again with this crew. Glad to see that people haven’t changed over the past year.    I’m always the optimist when it comes to snow storms, so I’m happy for something to track the next 2 weeks and hopefully more to come in the New Year! 

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2 hours ago, anotherman said:

Between Ji and his new understudy you’d think we were on the verge of 60s through the end of the year.

I must have blocked them both. Because I have seen none of it. If you told me in September that I would be looking at that -NAO block in December I would have chugged a bottle of Crown. Give me a DEC -NAO and I will take my chances the rest of the winter. And I dont care about base states or anything else. My personal experience is a cold -NAO December leads to happiness for my area the rest of the winter. The rest of you? I dont really care. But it is what it is. 

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1 minute ago, Wonderdog said:

Track sucks. Needs to redevelop further south. Still time.

Probably to trend worse. Terrible setup. The trend was a little less terrible but we need leaps better and the changes from here on out are likely to be warmer and to the north. I hope I am somehow wrong. This has always been unlikely and continues to show us how it can fail. 

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2 minutes ago, BristowWx said:

I just clicked through the 18z for laughs…really nothing at all.  Not even fun fantasy storms.  You’d never know it might get good soon looking at that.   

It does seem to be a wave behind this one...didn't make it far enough north this run, but was north of 12z. Day 9/10 of course...I think we'll see some more waves come through. Doesn't SEEM to be cold/dry overall.

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8 minutes ago, Maestrobjwa said:

It does seem to be a wave behind this one...didn't make it far enough north this run, but was north of 12z. Day 9/10 of course...I think we'll see some more waves come through. Doesn't SEEM to be cold/dry overall.

  Way out there but it has  Xmas Eve in the 60s on the op…2m temp anomaly is white hot.  Need to look at GEFS

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Everything to Dec19-29 will adjust (I've been looking at 4 model runs a day for 20 years). +PNA Dec19-29, will give us a less pronounced -EPO, and because the Atlantic has been negatively correlating, probably less of a -NAO, although we have developed a -NAO tendency around Christmas since 2014, happening 7/8 years, with an average +120dm anomaly, vs the -60dm +NAO for Dec-Mar in the combination of those 8 Winter's. (re: 18z GFS ensembles) I think the -NAO tendency for Christmas 12/25.. will adjust to -EPO/+PNA, so watch for that gravity. 12/25 -EPO/+PNA and 12-19to29 +PNA.. besides that the rest of the N. Hemisphere pattern likely will flatten out/neutralize, LR models for the next 4-8 days will adjust accordingly<-. 

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5 minutes ago, Maestrobjwa said:

Hr 354...lol I have a hard time seeing it being that warm given the pattern we're heading into. Not worth looking that deep into at that range

Yeah but it’s still worth keeping an eye on.  You would think the GEFS would at least show some idea of BN temps. Guess we will see how it evolves.  I know we don’t want vodka cold for snow chances but not room temp hot chocolate either.  

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13 minutes ago, Maestrobjwa said:

I think a solid hit of snow will do the psychology here a lot of good. Been a loooooong time

Dude. It is literally December 10th. And we are facing an absolutely epic setup in the next month. Prime setup heading into prime climo. We are SO MUCH better off than we have been the past two Decembers. When we knew winter was over by New Years eve. Everyone needs to chill a little bit. If we dont end up getting blasted in the next month I will stop this hobby. And I have been weenieing for long god damn time. I feel really good about where we are heading. 

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