USCG RS Posted December 23, 2022 Share Posted December 23, 2022 11 hours ago, donsutherland1 said: From the November 7-8, 2012 snowstorm following Sandy: I remember that all too vividly. I do not think I slept more than 20-25 Hours total in that 14 day stretch... 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJO812 Posted December 23, 2022 Share Posted December 23, 2022 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorthShoreWx Posted December 23, 2022 Share Posted December 23, 2022 3 hours ago, donsutherland1 said: As Arctic air presses into New York City tomorrow, Central Park will likely see a daily temperature range of 30°F or above. Typically, NYC sees 3.3 such days per year. 2022 has seen 3 such days so far: February 4 (31°), February 18 (36°), and February 23 (33°). We already had a 30 degree swing here on Thursday 12/22. From 26 shortly after 12am to 56 at 11:55 pm. Looks like we'll do it 2 days in a row. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TriPol Posted December 23, 2022 Share Posted December 23, 2022 It's definitely raining outside! Holy cow those must be big drops! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brasiluvsnow Posted December 23, 2022 Share Posted December 23, 2022 Just walked the dog it is around 55 degrees out there and absolutely down pouring as I type = too bad it was not colder tonight we could have gotten a LOT of snow 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LAVistaNY Posted December 23, 2022 Share Posted December 23, 2022 Well, no power here in eastern Westchester. Fire radio is busy with trees and wires down. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LibertyBell Posted December 23, 2022 Share Posted December 23, 2022 On 12/20/2022 at 10:23 PM, tmagan said: Going to be quite hard to ever exceed the warmth of January 1932 in the Park. That month was so warm, it had a higher monthly average than March 1932. In fact January of 1932 was only 5.8 degrees cooler than April 1932. Wow I wonder what was going on to make that month so warm? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LibertyBell Posted December 23, 2022 Share Posted December 23, 2022 8 hours ago, jm1220 said: Wasn’t the only model that went big with rain totals, RGEM was 2-3” for several runs. I’ll be lucky to make it to 1” here. Good we don't need all that rain. I woke up to a bright bolt of lightning and very heavy rain around 4:30 but it only lasted for 30 minutes-- along with the high winds. Must have been a thunderstorm. This is basically a frontal passage for us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LibertyBell Posted December 23, 2022 Share Posted December 23, 2022 18 hours ago, donsutherland1 said: From the November 7-8, 2012 snowstorm following Sandy: The earliest big snowstorm I've ever seen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LibertyBell Posted December 23, 2022 Share Posted December 23, 2022 20 hours ago, EastonSN+ said: Yeah but we did have a snow event in December 2012. Was minor like this years but I think Central Park had at least an inch in 12 where while we scored this year here in coastal CT (1.5 so far), Central Park had been skunked. That was an eastern new england winter, not the kind that would do well back here. Plus you have to remember that a bunch of snow came in November. I would consider it an average winter overall, better than 2011-12 for sure but nothing to write home about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LibertyBell Posted December 23, 2022 Share Posted December 23, 2022 20 hours ago, EastonSN+ said: I keep forgetting that one! One thing that drives me insane is when people say November snowstorms equal bad snowfall winters. 12/13, 02/03, 95/96 were all above average snowfall winters with November snowstorms. 18/19, 11/12 (October) and 87/88 we're below average. Seems equal to me. The reasoning is there needs to be spacing between snowfalls so a snowstorm in November likely means you won't see much in December. And there's a pretty good signal for a mild November into a snowy Winter (less so now, but it was 6 out of 6 through 1994.) The only exception in that list is 95-96 1) 12-13 was only an average so-so mediocre winter 2) there was no snowfall in 02-03 prior to December. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LibertyBell Posted December 23, 2022 Share Posted December 23, 2022 20 hours ago, EastonSN+ said: I keep forgetting that one! One thing that drives me insane is when people say November snowstorms equal bad snowfall winters. 12/13, 02/03, 95/96 were all above average snowfall winters with November snowstorms. 18/19, 11/12 (October) and 87/88 we're below average. Seems equal to me. 1- 12-13 was only a mediocre winter 2. 02-03 snow before December was nonexistent 3. The only one that makes the pro list is 95-96 also you forgot one for the con list 89-90 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LibertyBell Posted December 23, 2022 Share Posted December 23, 2022 20 hours ago, Stormlover74 said: We were still in the dark from sandy so I don't remember much about that one except freezing my ass off in front of the fireplace Nov 02 had a snowstorm? No there was no snow in 02 before December lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LibertyBell Posted December 23, 2022 Share Posted December 23, 2022 20 hours ago, SACRUS said: 9 years ago the warmth was on with 71 degree record high in EWR (2013) and NYC (park), 68 at New Brunswick: and 33 years ago it was very cold down to single digits (1989) in the area. 2013-14 was a lot better than 1989-90 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LibertyBell Posted December 23, 2022 Share Posted December 23, 2022 20 hours ago, Allsnow said: You will still be waiting for a inch of snow come January 15th It's fine as long as it comes before the end of January Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LibertyBell Posted December 23, 2022 Share Posted December 23, 2022 20 hours ago, EastonSN+ said: Yup No there was no measurable snow before December in 2002 LOL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LibertyBell Posted December 23, 2022 Share Posted December 23, 2022 19 hours ago, forkyfork said: we got white rain and inland got some accumulations Yeah thats what I thought-- we didn't have any snowstorms prior to December between 1995 and 2011. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LibertyBell Posted December 23, 2022 Share Posted December 23, 2022 19 hours ago, SnoSki14 said: Decent chance we stay in the teens on Saturday What do you think of the models that are showing sound effect snow and even bay effect snow for Fire Island on Saturday? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LibertyBell Posted December 23, 2022 Share Posted December 23, 2022 16 hours ago, EastonSN+ said: Cold and snowy Decembers will happen again. I mean we had a big snowstorm in 2020. It's just cyclical patterns. We are in a crappy period like the late 90s and pretty much every year from 1970 through 1992 save a couple years like 77/78. Historically el ninos aren't any better for us than la ninas are, people need to let go of this crutch that enso matters that much around here-- it does not. Our two best snowfall seasons were la ninas and our worst two were el ninos. It still doesn't matter because you have plenty of both in each group. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LibertyBell Posted December 23, 2022 Share Posted December 23, 2022 17 hours ago, EastonSN+ said: I think 91/92 was a back ended too. 97/98 we didn't get our first and only snow till mid March :() . So I guess a back ender? That's all the additional ones I can think of. On the bright side it's weather and ironically unpredictable. So does not look great but who knows. I lived through those winters and they were ALL HORRIBLE The entire period from the late 80s through the early 90s was the worst on record. the worst ones were 87-88, 88-89, 89-90, 90-91, 91-92....things started to get better in 92-93, 93-94 was awesome, 94-95 was awful again (also an el nino), 95-96 was the best ever (a la nina), 96-97, 97-98, 98-99, 99-00 were all horrible again, 00-01 was pretty good except for the March 01 debacle, 01-02 was one of the worst on record, and starting with 02-03 they were amazing again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LibertyBell Posted December 23, 2022 Share Posted December 23, 2022 16 hours ago, hooralph said: The Nov '12 storm absolutely accumulated at CPK. I recall we measured 4". Yeah 4-5 inches there and up to 8 inches here on the south shore (similar in some ways to April 2003) it didn't accumulate on the north shore and LGA because of the wind off the Sound. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BxEngine Posted December 23, 2022 Share Posted December 23, 2022 Take a walk man. Cmon 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LibertyBell Posted December 23, 2022 Share Posted December 23, 2022 16 hours ago, EastonSN+ said: Cold and snowy Decembers will happen again. I mean we had a big snowstorm in 2020. It's just cyclical patterns. We are in a crappy period like the late 90s and pretty much every year from 1970 through 1992 save a couple years like 77/78. 77-78 was a backloaded winter too lol You can put 81-82 and 82-83 in that list too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
donsutherland1 Posted December 23, 2022 Share Posted December 23, 2022 From 4 am to 5 am EST, New York City picked up a preliminary 1.33" of rainfall. That would be the first documented case of 1" or more hourly rainfall during the November-February period. The previous latest-season 1"+ rainfall occurred on October 23, 1912 when 1.31" fell. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LibertyBell Posted December 23, 2022 Share Posted December 23, 2022 16 hours ago, Allsnow said: Denver was -24 this morning which is the 3rd lowest temperature for the month of December ever recorded Didn't Cheyenne record their alltime lowest ever temp at -42? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LibertyBell Posted December 23, 2022 Share Posted December 23, 2022 15 hours ago, bluewave said: I still remember the old wind chill chart before they revised them to less extreme values. https://www.adirondackdailyenterprise.com/opinion/columns/safety-on-the-roads-by-dave-werner/2016/12/wind-chill-values-revised-in-2001/ What was the reasoning for that? I liked the old charts better. We had some -45 to -60 wind chills back then! But it was also much colder in the 80s (and felt like it.) Much drier too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LibertyBell Posted December 23, 2022 Share Posted December 23, 2022 14 hours ago, NorthShoreWx said: Christmas maybe, but there was a decent snowstorm around the 10th of December 1982 so it wasn't a shutout. I think it was one of those memorable Patriots-Jets games played in that storm, but I might be mixing my football folklore. There was also a big snowstorm around the second week of January 1983 (15th?) that went over to rain for a while along the coast, but left accumulations almost everywhere. Pretty big difference from LI south shore (where mostly rain) to north shore in that one. Even more snow on the Connecticut coast and a lot inland where there was no rain. Plus 5 or 6" that ended as some rain or drizzle about a week before PD1. Scary how I remember stuff when I was young better than stuff from last winter. We (the south shore) made up for it because we got 2 FEET of snow in February 1983, my first ever true HECS (April 1982 also counts because of how late in the season it was and how late it happened.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
North and West Posted December 23, 2022 Share Posted December 23, 2022 I lived through those winters and they were ALL HORRIBLE The entire period from the late 80s through the early 90s was the worst on record. the worst ones were 87-88, 88-89, 89-90, 90-91, 91-92....things started to get better in 92-93, 93-94 was awesome, 94-95 was awful again (also an el nino), 95-96 was the best ever (a la nina), 96-97, 97-98, 98-99, 99-00 were all horrible again, 00-01 was pretty good except for the March 01 debacle, 01-02 was one of the worst on record, and starting with 02-03 they were amazing again.. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LibertyBell Posted December 23, 2022 Share Posted December 23, 2022 14 hours ago, crossbowftw3 said: 2018 1st-3rd — 39” in upstate NY and a rather notable wind event 6th-7th — 20+” in NNJ (I only got 7” and I was only about maybe 60 miles north of the death band) 12th-14th Boston special 18th? NYC special and ~18” on LI 5th was either later month or April 1st/2nd The April storm was THE BEST! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LibertyBell Posted December 23, 2022 Share Posted December 23, 2022 12 hours ago, bluewave said: It may have shaved 5-10° off of what the temperatures would have been on a NW flow instead. NW winds are boring though, nothing happens with them outside of colder temperatures (better in the summer though for extreme heat with dry weather.) Speaking of S/SW winds didn't we have a Blizzard in late February 2010 and 20" of snow (a foot here) on a southerly wind? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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