Jump to content
  • Member Statistics

    17,600
    Total Members
    7,904
    Most Online
    ArlyDude
    Newest Member
    ArlyDude
    Joined

December 2022


dmillz25
 Share

Recommended Posts

3 hours ago, NJwx85 said:

The GFS has really backed off on impacts for our area as well.

Only real notables will be high wind potential late Thursday into Friday and potential flash freeze. 

LLJ is not really impressive until well east of the area, I am not seeing the big wind threat with this one

  • Like 1
Link to comment
Share on other sites

24 minutes ago, qg_omega said:

LLJ is not really impressive until well east of the area, I am not seeing the big wind threat with this one

40-60mph wind gust across majority of the north east is pretty impressive it’s been a while since we had a widespread high impact wind event 

  • Like 2
Link to comment
Share on other sites

From a meteorological perspective, it's an absolute beast of a system that may set some records in regards to pressure drops in Canada.  

When people don't see the outcome and extremes in their own backyard, of course they will downplay the system and call it a bust. 

This has been a fun system evolution, especially useful in regards to how the models handled it.  It's still l, for all intents and purposes, a bust for the NE.  But what a fun system to learn from and watch evolve. 

  • Like 1
Link to comment
Share on other sites

Dry but cool weather will continue through tomorrow. A powerful storm could bring heavy rain, high winds, and coastal flooding to the region Thursday and Friday. A general 1"-2" of precipitation appears likely with locally higher amounts. A light snow accumulation remains possible at the onset of the storm and as it moves away from the region. A flash freeze is possible.

Once that storm passes, the season's coldest air so far will pour into the region. Temperatures could tumble into the teens in New York City. Nevertheless, the core of the Arctic air mass will bypass the New York City region. As a result, New York City's ongoing record 1,419-day streak without a single-digit temperature will be extended. The last time Central Park saw a temperature below 10° was January 31, 2019 when the mercury dipped to 2°.

The AO fell reached -4.000 on December 10th. Since 1950, there were 11 cases that saw the AO reach -4.000 or below during December. Mean snowfall for those cases was 9.0" (Median: 9.1"). 64% of such cases saw 6" or more of snowfall in December while 45% of such cases saw 10.0" or more snow. In contrast, during all other December cases, mean December snowfall was 3.5" (Median: 2.5"). 91% of those cases also saw a colder than normal December in the northern Middle Atlantic region. In terms of seasonal snowfall, 64% of those seasons saw 30" or more snowfall in New York City with 45% having 40" or more. Just 18% of such cases had less than 20" seasonal snowfall, both of which had less than 10" for the December-January period.

However, there are cases where Decembers with strong blocking have seen much below normal snowfall. The three cases with less than 1" of monthly snowfall with a monthly average AO of -1.500 or below were: 1985: 0.9" (total seasonal snowfall: 13.0"); 1996: Trace (total seasonal snowfall: 10.0"); and, 2012: 0.4" (total seasonal snowfall: 26.1"). The lowest December snowfall when the AO averaged -2.000 or below was 5.1" in 1976. The lowest winter month snowfall with a monthly average AO of -2.000 or below was 0.5" in January 1998. There is a chance that both futility records could be surpassed this month.

The ENSO Region 1+2 anomaly was -0.1°C and the Region 3.4 anomaly was -0.9°C for the week centered around December 14. For the past six weeks, the ENSO Region 1+2 anomaly has averaged -0.95°C and the ENSO Region 3.4 anomaly has averaged -0.92°C. La Niña conditions will likely persist through mid-winter.

The SOI was +20.19 today.

The preliminary Arctic Oscillation (AO) was -3.327 today.

On December 18 the MJO was in Phase 3 at an amplitude of 0.636 (RMM). The December 17-adjusted amplitude was 0.642 (RMM).

Based on sensitivity analysis applied to the latest guidance, there is an implied 81% probability that New York City will have a colder than normal December (1991-2020 normal). December will likely finish with a mean temperature near 37.6° (1.5° below normal).

 

  • Like 1
  • Thanks 1
Link to comment
Share on other sites

22 minutes ago, donsutherland1 said:

Dry but cool weather will continue through tomorrow. A powerful storm could bring heavy rain, high winds, and coastal flooding to the region Thursday and Friday. A general 1"-2" of precipitation appears likely with locally higher amounts. A light snow accumulation remains possible at the onset of the storm and as it moves away from the region. A flash freeze is possible.

Once that storm passes, the season's coldest air so far will pour into the region. Temperatures could tumble into the teens in New York City. Nevertheless, the core of the Arctic air mass will bypass the New York City region. As a result, New York City's ongoing record 1,419-day streak without a single-digit temperature will be extended. The last time Central Park saw a temperature below 10° was January 31, 2019 when the mercury dipped to 2°.

The AO fell reached -4.000 on December 10th. Since 1950, there were 11 cases that saw the AO reach -4.000 or below during December. Mean snowfall for those cases was 9.0" (Median: 9.1"). 64% of such cases saw 6" or more of snowfall in December while 45% of such cases saw 10.0" or more snow. In contrast, during all other December cases, mean December snowfall was 3.5" (Median: 2.5"). 91% of those cases also saw a colder than normal December in the northern Middle Atlantic region. In terms of seasonal snowfall, 64% of those seasons saw 30" or more snowfall in New York City with 45% having 40" or more. Just 18% of such cases had less than 20" seasonal snowfall, both of which had less than 10" for the December-January period.

However, there are cases where Decembers with strong blocking have seen much below normal snowfall. The three cases with less than 1" of monthly snowfall with a monthly average AO of -1.500 or below were: 1985: 0.9" (total seasonal snowfall: 13.0"); 1996: Trace (total seasonal snowfall: 10.0"); and, 2012: 0.4" (total seasonal snowfall: 26.1"). The lowest December snowfall when the AO averaged -2.000 or below was 5.1" in 1976. The lowest winter month snowfall with a monthly average AO of -2.000 or below was 0.5" in January 1998. There is a chance that both futility records could be surpassed this month.

The ENSO Region 1+2 anomaly was -0.1°C and the Region 3.4 anomaly was -0.9°C for the week centered around December 14. For the past six weeks, the ENSO Region 1+2 anomaly has averaged -0.95°C and the ENSO Region 3.4 anomaly has averaged -0.92°C. La Niña conditions will likely persist through mid-winter.

The SOI was +20.19 today.

The preliminary Arctic Oscillation (AO) was -3.327 today.

On December 18 the MJO was in Phase 3 at an amplitude of 0.636 (RMM). The December 17-adjusted amplitude was 0.642 (RMM).

Based on sensitivity analysis applied to the latest guidance, there is an implied 81% probability that New York City will have a colder than normal December (1991-2020 normal). December will likely finish with a mean temperature near 37.6° (1.5° below normal).

 

Interesting to note:  The first half of the month was not as mild as originally forecast and the last half of the month does not look as cold as originally forecast.  Consequently there was little warmth to erase starting at mid month and as it looks now the month will finish a degree or so below normal.   There has been a rather consistent chill near to just below normal for most of the month after the milder opening.  The coming cold shot looks to ensure we finish just below normal.  There was a time earlier in the month when it was questionable if the cold second of the month would get us to normal or below.  As it turns out there was not much warmth to erase.  Without the coming cold shot we probably would have finished flat give or take a tenth or two.

 

 

  • Like 3
Link to comment
Share on other sites

NAM is taking longer to close the trough off again and it keeps happening further NE/getting broader. The real "storm" aspect of it might be worse for us than over the Midwest if we're not counting the lake effect taking place in the cold behind it. Since the low is taking longer to develop and the overall trough looks broader, the wind aspect might not be as bad but still nasty. NAM gets it significantly colder than the GFS though behind the front, gets NYC to below 10 on Christmas Eve AM and still quite windy. NAM has practically no precip with the cold front so no/little flash freeze threat, rain is all with the warm front. 

The lake effect will be the main takeaway I'm thinking. Buffalo's in for another walloping but this time it might be the downtown area and the north side with the more SW flow. 

Link to comment
Share on other sites

6 hours ago, CIK62 said:

UP UP And AWAY.............with my beautiful Thermometer:       Gonna be the hottest start to any year ever with this nonsense.    +17 by Jan. 06???????

Of Note:    From:  10pm Friday  to  1pm Tuesday<<<<<<32 continuously.     From Dec.29 to Jan. 05 and beyond?>>>>>32 continuously.

 

1671537600-ihCaSlyHKeQ.png

The Ens. is +11 here.     Op is +17.

1672920000-s006FdxmxRs.png

It will not be the hottest start to any year, as January 2007 has the record for warmest first week ever in the Park. That week featured a 72 degree day on the sixth, something that will not happen this time.

  • Like 1
  • Thanks 1
Link to comment
Share on other sites

On 12/19/2022 at 12:01 PM, donsutherland1 said:

A warmup just before or around the New Year seems likely. Its duration and magnitude is far from certain. Some residual Atlantic blocking could persist in combination with a neutral or somewhat positive PNA. That could temper the warmth--warmer than normal at least for a time, but not necessarily record-challenging warmth. A popular argument might entail the MJO's returning to colder phases by mid-January (?) to argue for a return of colder weather, but MJO forecasts are low skill beyond 7-10 days.

Going to be quite hard to ever exceed the warmth of January 1932 in the Park. That month was so warm, it had a higher monthly average than March 1932. In fact January of 1932 was only 5.8 degrees cooler than April 1932.

  • Like 2
Link to comment
Share on other sites

Morning thoughts…

Today will be partly to mostly sunny and cool.  High temperatures will reach the upper 30s and lower 40s in most of the region. Likely high temperatures around the region include:

New York City (Central Park): 39°

Newark: 41°

Philadelphia: 41°

A soaking rain will arrive tomorrow and continue through Friday. Afterward, it will turn sharply colder.

Normals:

New York City: 30-Year: 42.8°; 15-Year: 43.6°

Newark: 30-Year: 43.3°; 15-Year: 44.3°

Philadelphia: 30-Year: 44.5°; 15-Year: 45.6°

Link to comment
Share on other sites

The next 8 days are averaging     29degs.(23/35) or -5.

Month to date is     40.3[-0.2].         Should be   37.1[-1.6] by the 29th.

Reached 39 here yesterday.

Today:    36-40, wind n. to e.- variable. p. sunny, 35 tomorrow AM.

BALL DROP T---45       POLAR BEAR DIP T---50, Drizzle, Wind S.

SUGGESTION:   Get the GFS  to just keep on going and we can skip the winter............................

 

1671602400-Td1kwQha6eM.png

The next likely BN 7-Day Period:   centered on mid-month.

1674086400-2Lf7ohUxG5w.png

32*(67%RH) here at 6am.       35* at 9am.       36* at 11am.       37* at Noon.      40* at 2pm.       Reached 42* at 4pm.        40* at 6pm.

 

Link to comment
Share on other sites

How is 30 Year an average?  Its dishonest as its not a true representation of the entire data set. That's like my kid telling me he got a 90 average but failed to include his spanish grade where he got a 40. I realize that the post actually does say 30 years but on TV or Radio that disclaimer is not included.

  • Thanks 1
Link to comment
Share on other sites

Models have our greatest December 12 hr temperature drop on Friday. Mid 50s around 8am dropping to mid 10s by 8 pm. So a possible 40° drop. The previous record drop was 35°. 
 

https://mesonet.agron.iastate.edu/plotting/auto/?_wait=no&q=169&network=NJ_ASOS&zstation=EWR&hours=12&month=dec&dir=cool&how=exact&_r=t&dpi=100&_fmt=png

7D38F47D-EA07-4F92-BAD5-E52A4C3F4E15.thumb.png.22bbc9558679161a6d447497110eca43.png

48E055D6-59D5-42B3-8D78-F6FB57106955.thumb.png.bd94782bf84b327046c393dfaf26730c.png

3FDB5E74-2E2F-4C88-9A38-D1F5C68440AE.thumb.png.8ffdfaa960b672423e994fd662241d77.png

 

  • Like 2
  • Thanks 1
Link to comment
Share on other sites

3 minutes ago, wishcast_hater said:

How is 30 Year an average?  Its dishonest as its not a true representation of the entire data set. That's like my kid telling me he got a 90 average but failed to include his spanish grade where he got a 40. I realize that the post actually does say 30 years but on TV or Radio that disclaimer is not included.

I have been saying the same for decades. There is no reason(s) why the entire database should not be used to make comparisons. 

Link to comment
Share on other sites

4 minutes ago, bluewave said:

You can go in the database and use any interval that you want. They have now added 15 year averages along with 30. Many of my posts focus on the last 10 years of averages. So we can put the rapid temperature rise in perspective.

I am aware of that. The point is the use of the 30 year norms for needs to come to an end.  All it is doing is deceiving the public.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

16 minutes ago, Great Snow 1717 said:

A significant increase 

Yeah, NYC now has a 10 year average around 40° in December. It only took 30 years for us to get what used to be normal for DC in the 1990s. So we are becoming more like the Midatlantic.

Monthly Mean Avg Temperature for Washington Area, DC (ThreadEx)
Click column heading to sort ascending, click again to sort descending.
Year
Dec
Season
Mean 40.2 40.2
2000 31.8 31.8
1999 42.0 42.0
1998 44.4 44.4
1997 41.0 41.0
1996 43.0 43.0
1995 35.6 35.6
1994 44.2 44.2
1993 38.1 38.1
1992 39.6 39.6
1991 42.3 42.3


 

Monthly Mean Avg Temperature for NY CITY CENTRAL PARK, NY
Click column heading to sort ascending, click again to sort descending.
Year
Dec
Season
Mean 40.6 40.6
2021 43.8 43.8
2020 39.2 39.2
2019 38.3 38.3
2018 40.1 40.1
2017 35.0 35.0
2016 38.3 38.3
2015 50.8 50.8
2014 40.5 40.5
2013 38.5 38.5
2012 41.5 41.5
  • Like 2
  • Sad 2
Link to comment
Share on other sites

Although I like warm weather in general (outdoors, energy savings), I hate how boring weather tracking is and how dead the forum gets. 

Looks like we are getting a third loop in the MJO. CFS weeklies have a trough in the east mid way through. This likely aligns with phase 7/8 and associated lag.

image.png.d9ecdb2978b9b756d4f61961ef445b87.png

Link to comment
Share on other sites

5 minutes ago, bluewave said:

Yeah, NYC now has a 10 year average around 40° in December. It only took 30 years for us to get what used to be normal for DC in the 1990s. So we are becoming more like the Midatlantic.

Monthly Mean Avg Temperature for Washington Area, DC (ThreadEx)
Click column heading to sort ascending, click again to sort descending.
Year
Dec
Season
Mean 40.2 40.2
2000 31.8 31.8
1999 42.0 42.0
1998 44.4 44.4
1997 41.0 41.0
1996 43.0 43.0
1995 35.6 35.6
1994 44.2 44.2
1993 38.1 38.1
1992 39.6 39.6
1991 42.3 42.3


 

Monthly Mean Avg Temperature for NY CITY CENTRAL PARK, NY
Click column heading to sort ascending, click again to sort descending.
Year
Dec
Season
Mean 40.6 40.6
2021 43.8 43.8
2020 39.2 39.2
2019 38.3 38.3
2018 40.1 40.1
2017 35.0 35.0
2016 38.3 38.3
2015 50.8 50.8
2014 40.5 40.5
2013 38.5 38.5
2012 41.5 41.5

the northeast is "sinking" southward

Link to comment
Share on other sites

4 minutes ago, bluewave said:

Yeah, NYC now has a 10 year average around 40° in December. It only took 30 years for us to get what used to be normal for DC in the 1990s. So we are becoming more like the Midatlantic.

Monthly Mean Avg Temperature for Washington Area, DC (ThreadEx)
Click column heading to sort ascending, click again to sort descending.
Year
Dec
Season
Mean 40.2 40.2
2000 31.8 31.8
1999 42.0 42.0
1998 44.4 44.4
1997 41.0 41.0
1996 43.0 43.0
1995 35.6 35.6
1994 44.2 44.2
1993 38.1 38.1
1992 39.6 39.6
1991 42.3 42.3


 

Monthly Mean Avg Temperature for NY CITY CENTRAL PARK, NY
Click column heading to sort ascending, click again to sort descending.
Year
Dec
Season
Mean 40.6 40.6
2021 43.8 43.8
2020 39.2 39.2
2019 38.3 38.3
2018 40.1 40.1
2017 35.0 35.0
2016 38.3 38.3
2015 50.8 50.8
2014 40.5 40.5
2013 38.5 38.5
2012 41.5 41.5

Found this interesting, wonder how the weather was in this period. Looking back in history may give us a glimpse into what the current warming will bring.

Greenland

Analyses from central and southern Greenland (see Greenland Stable Isotopes) show that this region did experience a Medieval Warm Period (culminating around ad 1000), a Little Ice Age cool period (ad 1500–1900), and warming to the mid-twentieth century (Alley and Koci, 1990; Cuffey et al., 1994; Dahl-Jensen et al., 1998). In contrast to some other regions of the Arctic, such as northern Alaska and Siberia, Greenland did not have renewed warming through the latter decades of the twentieth century. The Medieval Warm Period was approximately 1 °C warmer than present, and the Little Ice Age 0.6 °C cooler than present, in central Greenland.

 

  • Thanks 1
Link to comment
Share on other sites

Create an account or sign in to comment

You need to be a member in order to leave a comment

Create an account

Sign up for a new account in our community. It's easy!

Register a new account

Sign in

Already have an account? Sign in here.

Sign In Now
 Share

  • Recently Browsing   0 members

    • No registered users viewing this page.
×
×
  • Create New...