December 2022 Obs/Disc

[radarman]

2 minutes ago, CoastalWx said:

You’re going January 19? Hell they may  get snow on 1-5. I would NOT cancel.

Absolutely.  You take your chances with an active pattern up there in Jan every time.  If it were balls cold and looked great for coastal SNE you get the feeling he wouldn't cancel, and that could be potentially terrible up in NNE 

[alex]

Just now, radarman said:

Absolutely.  You take your chances with an active pattern up there in Jan every time.  If it were balls cold and looked great for coastal SNE you get the feeling he wouldn't cancel, and that could be potentially terrible up in NNE 

I've gotta add, many times I have been surprised by the conditions in a "bad stretch." Good grooming can turn an icy trail into a really fun skiing day. I'm actually looking forward to the warmup - nicely groomed trails with 30s and 40s daytime high can be a treat in January! 

[Sugarloaf1989]

Merry Christmas.  I'm here at my sisters house in Milford,  Pennsylvania.  There's about 3" of snow on the ground. 

[jbenedet]

Those geese are still munchin’ away on green grass in Newington. 
 

They knew. 
 

But models!

[weathafella]

5 minutes ago, jbenedet said:

Those geese are still munchin’ away on green grass in Newington. 
 

They knew. 
 

But models!

There’s your Christmas dinner-get after it Pope!

[ORH_wxman]

51 minutes ago, alex said:

I've gotta add, many times I have been surprised by the conditions in a "bad stretch." Good grooming can turn an icy trail into a really fun skiing day. I'm actually looking forward to the warmup - nicely groomed trails with 30s and 40s daytime high can be a treat in January! 

I grew up learning to ski in dogshit….1990-1991, 1991-1992 were my first two winters where I learned to ski and skied a lot. 
 

Someone can go look up those winter but the spoiler alert is they sucked giant donkey balls with tons of cutters. I assumed it was normal back then as I didn’t know any better. 
 

But you are correct at how good they are at fixing those groomers. Even back then. Yeah, we couldn’t go on the natural snow moguls all the time but the groomers were often great even the day after a cutter. 
 

At any rate though, NNE could get buried before the 19th. 

[Supernovice]

I dunno if anyone else saw this but pretty cool move by The Godfather.

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[HoarfrostHubb]

8.1F to start.   Third morning in a row of single digits.  Maybe we can get into the 20s today

[qg_omega]

19 hours ago, TauntonBlizzard2013 said:

Looks like 4 rain events in the next 14 days or so up in NNE.

 

Just waiting on confirmation from the other people coming with us; but we are most likely canceling our trip.

Cant believe the weather is going to force us to cancel a ski trip in mid-late Jan. You hate to see it

Best to reschedule to 2024

[Torch Tiger]

The next 10 days will be rough but I would feel good about a later January ski trip right now. it's not even that bad a winter up there 

[HIPPYVALLEY]

1 hour ago, HoarfrostHubb said:

8.1F to start.   Third morning in a row of single digits.  Maybe we can get into the 20s today

Same here 8.5F up to 12F now.

Ponds are probably ready for skating and fishing. 

[dryslot]

Anyone that would cancel a ski trip in NNE in January are not skiers or lacks the knowledge of the climate up here.

[George001]

22 hours ago, TauntonBlizzard2013 said:

Looks like 4 rain events in the next 14 days or so up in NNE.

 

Just waiting on confirmation from the other people coming with us; but we are most likely canceling our trip.

Cant believe the weather is going to force us to cancel a ski trip in mid-late Jan. You hate to see it

Cancelling a ski trip in mid Jan? They are having a much different winter up there than we are having in SNE. Those rainstorms here are burying them. I don’t care what the models say, it’s not going to be snowless in NNE. This is not a super nino.

[qg_omega]

2 minutes ago, George001 said:

Cancelling a ski trip in mid Jan? They are having a much different winter up there than we are having in SNE. Those rainstorms here are burying them. I don’t care what the models say, it’s not going to be snowless in NNE. This is not a super nino.

You living in a parallel universe?

[George001]

17 minutes ago, qg_omega said:

You living in a parallel universe?

Not every pattern that skunks SNE is the same. This December has been cold with the storm track to our west, so NNE got buried while we rained. This is different than Dec 2015 where everyone torched. Both patterns sucked for eastern mass but one buried NNE and the other skunked everyone. It will warm up yes, but in January in NNE it can and does snow in well above normal temps. Have you gone up to NNE this year to ski? I have, and it looks a lot different than it does in SNE. Cancelling a ski trip in NNE for mid jan because you don’t think there will be enough snow is a terrible idea. Climo matters here, if the models are showing something that deviates from climo you should question it (like if they show a blizzard in May for SNE). This is the same idea.

[HoarfrostHubb]

The glacier at the end of my driveway (this is our much maligned road). 2-4” thick.  Town salt won’t do much to this

 

[bwt3650]

Looks like 4 rain events in the next 14 days or so up in NNE.
 
Just waiting on confirmation from the other people coming with us; but we are most likely canceling our trip.
Cant believe the weather is going to force us to cancel a ski trip in mid-late Jan. You hate to see it

Where are you going? We are pushing 6 since yesterday and prob another 3-6 thru weds. Weekend will be warm, but not a torch up here. If we can avoid the soaker and do 30s and showers we could already be recovering by 1/6 if that trends favorably.


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[bwt3650]

Absolutely.  You take your chances with an active pattern up there in Jan every time.  If it were balls cold and looked great for coastal SNE you get the feeling he wouldn't cancel, and that could be potentially terrible up in NNE 

This!

A wise man with a freak in his handle once told me, bring the moisture in the northern greens and the rest will take care of itself. Yes, it may rain sometimes, but I’ll take my chances with lots of storms in January over deep cold patterns every day of the week. The bright reds aren’t necessary a death sentence in jan.


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[powderfreak]

8 minutes ago, bwt3650 said:

This!

A wise man with a freak in his handle once told me, bring the moisture in the northern greens and the rest will take care of itself. Yes, it may rain sometimes, but I’ll take my chances with lots of storms in January over deep cold patterns every day of the week. The bright reds aren’t necessary a death sentence in jan.


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Snowy vibe today.  You guys look to be doing better on the SW flow off Lake Ontario reaching in there.  But big fluffy flakes floating most of the morning.  Fluffy stuff.

[dryslot]

Meanwhile in Jackman...........

[bwt3650]

Snowy vibe today.  You guys look to be doing better on the SW flow off Lake Ontario reaching in there.  But big fluffy flakes floating most of the morning.  Fluffy stuff.

Yeah, looks like a true jay cloud catching help from the lakes. Gfs and nam both printing out .5 plus before the rain gets here late week Mansfield through here. Might be a surprise real solid week in the northern greens. Let’s see if we can avoid a pack killer 12/31-1/5.


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[TalcottWx]

I'm feeling negative about winter 2023, I'm gonna cancel my ski trips that year.

[alex]

Just started flurrying here. Tried hockey with the kids -lol, we are a disaster. But fun. Skiing wasn't bad either. 

[HIPPYVALLEY]

28/27 with full sun and no wind.  Not too bad out today. 
We currently have about 20 robins in our backyard pecking at the ground.  I’ve never seen anything like it. It must be a group that migrated down from the north? 

[TauntonBlizzard2013]

I’m glad everyone has endless money that they can piss away on ski trips and mediocre conditions.

 

I wasn’t trying to be an ass, it’s a legitimate concern, when you’re spending $400 or more to ski for two days, plus a condo, food, etc, you’d like it to be decent.

My wife also got hurt skiing the first time she went, and it’s taken almost a decade to get her to try it again, so I’d prefer it wasn’t a disaster

[CoastalWx]

6 minutes ago, TauntonBlizzard2013 said:

I’m glad everyone has endless money that they can piss away on ski trips and mediocre conditions.

 

I wasn’t trying to be an ass, it’s a legitimate concern, when you’re spending $400 or more to ski for two days, plus a condo, food, etc, you’d like it to be decent.

My wife also got hurt skiing the first time she went, and it’s taken almost a decade to get her to try it again, so I’d prefer it wasn’t a disaster

What weekend are you going?

[TauntonBlizzard2013]

16 minutes ago, CoastalWx said:

What weekend are you going?

19-22

[TalcottWx]

23 minutes ago, TauntonBlizzard2013 said:

I’m glad everyone has endless money that they can piss away on ski trips and mediocre conditions.

 

I wasn’t trying to be an ass, it’s a legitimate concern, when you’re spending $400 or more to ski for two days, plus a condo, food, etc, you’d like it to be decent.

My wife also got hurt skiing the first time she went, and it’s taken almost a decade to get her to try it again, so I’d prefer it wasn’t a disaster

Just know I'm only ever messing with you, I'm a big clown, just ask the rest of these banana heads 

[TauntonBlizzard2013]

4 minutes ago, TalcottWx said:

Just know I'm only ever messing with you, I'm a big clown, just ask the rest of these banana heads 

Lol I know, I’m just busting back. My main concern is my wife. If she has a bad experience, she’ll never ski again in her life lolo

[Baroclinic Zone]

5 minutes ago, TalcottWx said:

Just know I'm only ever messing with you, I'm a big clown, just ask the rest of these banana heads 

Stop being such a meany.