ChiTownSnow Posted December 23, 2022 Share Posted December 23, 2022 11 minutes ago, Baum said: I'd issue a watch with this afternoons package to be on the safe side. All kidding aside, given the wind and cold with this event you can see why the early watches were issued. If we had a foot with this thing...good luck. Too soon man..too soon. Haha Lot does mention this in long term LONG TERM... Issued at 221 AM CST Fri Dec 23 2022 Saturday night through Friday... * Winds diminish X-mas eve, temps remain very cold X-mas Day * Clipper system could bring accumulating snow to region late X-mas night into Monday morning, potentially fairly impactful * Big pattern change with unseasonable warmth and rain coming next week Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mimillman Posted December 23, 2022 Share Posted December 23, 2022 This one is pretty binary so I’ll give a final call: ORD: 2.1” Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiTownSnow Posted December 23, 2022 Share Posted December 23, 2022 1 hour ago, mimillman said: This one is pretty binary so I’ll give a final call: ORD: 2.1” Which is about what we got yesterday, and will double or snow on the ground Edit.. *would. so sorry. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiTownSnow Posted December 23, 2022 Share Posted December 23, 2022 NAM is a bit juiced. With ratios it could be a decent event Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mimillman Posted December 23, 2022 Share Posted December 23, 2022 6 minutes ago, ChiTownSnow said: NAM is a bit juiced. With ratios it could be a decent event It will be Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoosier Posted December 23, 2022 Share Posted December 23, 2022 What time is it? Thread time 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HillsdaleMIWeather Posted December 24, 2022 Share Posted December 24, 2022 If trends hold up we could see some flooding and maybe even some severe weather on new years day 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Stevo6899 Posted December 24, 2022 Share Posted December 24, 2022 17 minutes ago, Cary67 said: As if we needed another graphic to depict how much detroit sucks at snow. But but 1.5 inches of blowing snow is so epic. (Josh). Northern areas all have had a storm, move east theres detroit then skip over to syracuse and northeast who've had a storm. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michsnowfreak Posted December 24, 2022 Share Posted December 24, 2022 Hmm where did I hear "anyone can paint brush their own snow map". That map doesnt include most of yesterday's snow actually. Not sure why you follow maps anyway. You are proven wrong time and time again with them and then when you are, you simply resort to a generic "we suck". Over the years youve managed to find something wrong with every snow record, snowstorm, etc that occurs, and usually your gripe is with the conditions. Well yesterday the conditions were legit. When it's pointed out how Detroit has had more 6"+ storms last 20 years and a higher average than most non belt Midwest cities, you have to go back to the big dog obsession which no one outside buffalo has had. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevo6899 Posted December 24, 2022 Share Posted December 24, 2022 2 hours ago, michsnowfreak said: Hmm where did I hear "anyone can paint brush their own snow map". That map doesnt include most of yesterday's snow actually. Not sure why you follow maps anyway. You are proven wrong time and time again with them and then when you are, you simply resort to a generic "we suck". Over the years youve managed to find something wrong with every snow record, snowstorm, etc that occurs, and usually your gripe is with the conditions. Well yesterday the conditions were legit. When it's pointed out how Detroit has had more 6"+ storms last 20 years and a higher average than most non belt Midwest cities, you have to go back to the big dog obsession which no one outside buffalo has had. Lol the paint brush pic looked self made, and had no data. This graphic is legit. It's okay. Enjoy your 2 inches. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michsnowfreak Posted December 24, 2022 Share Posted December 24, 2022 @Mimillman, here's the graphic. Wonder when they will release 1991-2020. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mimillman Posted December 24, 2022 Share Posted December 24, 2022 15 minutes ago, michsnowfreak said: @Mimillman, here's the graphic. Wonder when they will release 1991-2020. Michigan the snow desert 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RogueWaves Posted December 24, 2022 Share Posted December 24, 2022 2 minutes ago, mimillman said: Michigan the snow desert Detroit's poor showing is my fault. Been pretty lame since I moved here. It is not always that way, but one thing this area really does struggle with even when it gets a good hit is snow cover retention. And I'm a huge fan of keeping a blanket of white OTG. Going to be a challenge, especially with the climo shifting warmer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevo6899 Posted December 24, 2022 Share Posted December 24, 2022 33 minutes ago, RogueWaves said: Detroit's poor showing is my fault. Been pretty lame since I moved here. It is not always that way, but one thing this area really does struggle with even when it gets a good hit is snow cover retention. And I'm a huge fan of keeping a blanket of white OTG. Going to be a challenge, especially with the climo shifting warmer Do what I did and move! I've been down in florida 4 winters in a row. I've yet to fly home for a snowstorm because there have been none deserving... I will say the 52 today with the wind was a bit chilly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michsnowfreak Posted December 25, 2022 Share Posted December 25, 2022 1 hour ago, RogueWaves said: Detroit's poor showing is my fault. Been pretty lame since I moved here. It is not always that way, but one thing this area really does struggle with even when it gets a good hit is snow cover retention. And I'm a huge fan of keeping a blanket of white OTG. Going to be a challenge, especially with the climo shifting warmer I think mimillman was being sarcastic lol. Last 3 winters have been around average at Detroit snowfall wise, and the last 2 near average snowcover. Just very Feb based (ie much snowier/whiter in Feb than avg to counter the dull parts of winter). I, like you am a snowcover person. There is no longterm decline in snowcover at all, but of course we are still fairly fresh off the record snowcover 2013-15. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RogueWaves Posted December 25, 2022 Share Posted December 25, 2022 49 minutes ago, michsnowfreak said: I think mimillman was being sarcastic lol. Last 3 winters have been around average at Detroit snowfall wise, and the last 2 near average snowcover. Just very Feb based (ie much snowier/whiter in Feb than avg to counter the dull parts of winter). I, like you am a snowcover person. There is no longterm decline in snowcover at all, but of course we are still fairly fresh off the record snowcover 2013-15. South end of Wayne did much better than my area last winter. Using DTW for my annual (just 8 mi S) my total last winter was only 79%. Not close to avg. Even an avg season, when/if spread over too many months (Nov-Apr) is going to have a difficult time impressing anyone. An avg snow total in a condensed 2 or 2.5 mos will feel much more like serious winter. As you noted tho, trend is a stretched-out season with a bunch of dud spells mixed in between. Can't even remember that last condensed avg winter. Seems like we either get a good winter start to finish or complete garbage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fluoronium Posted December 25, 2022 Share Posted December 25, 2022 Upcoming torch is looking really nice about now. A lot of areas are going to get much needed rainfall. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michsnowfreak Posted December 25, 2022 Share Posted December 25, 2022 10 hours ago, RogueWaves said: South end of Wayne did much better than my area last winter. Using DTW for my annual (just 8 mi S) my total last winter was only 79%. Not close to avg. Even an avg season, when/if spread over too many months (Nov-Apr) is going to have a difficult time impressing anyone. An avg snow total in a condensed 2 or 2.5 mos will feel much more like serious winter. As you noted tho, trend is a stretched-out season with a bunch of dud spells mixed in between. Can't even remember that last condensed avg winter. Seems like we either get a good winter start to finish or complete garbage. DTW finished at 47.1" last winter. Not sure what you mean 79%. That is an interesting thought though, it condensed Winter. Winter lasts so long overall but it's not continuous. Would be interesting if we crammed everything into a couple months. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cary67 Posted December 25, 2022 Share Posted December 25, 2022 Seems to me there are windows of opportunity each winter. Could argue as to whether the length and number of these windows is diminishing as we move forward. We had one in November and just about finished with this Decembers. Sometimes a pattern emerges as to certain areas being hit repeatedly. This year the upper Midwest with MSP and across Northern half of Wisconsin look favored so far. Probably will have another again latter half of January. So far this winter locally has been about 3 events each barely able to cover the grass. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheRegionRat Posted December 25, 2022 Share Posted December 25, 2022 7 minutes ago, Cary67 said: Seems to me there are windows of opportunity each winter. Could argue as to whether the length and number of these windows is diminishing as we move forward. We had one in November and just about finished with this Decembers. Sometimes a pattern emerges as to certain areas being hit repeatedly. This year the upper Midwest with MSP and across Northern half of Wisconsin look favored so far. Probably will have another again latter half of January. So far this winter locally has been about 3 events each barely able to cover the grass. I agree with this. This past set looked great on paper for a few hours. In retrospect a bit more snow would have been nice, but getting buried would have been even colder. A question for the sharpies. It was below zero all day December 23. How often does that happen at O'Hare? Seems somewhat rare. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RogueWaves Posted December 26, 2022 Share Posted December 26, 2022 13 hours ago, michsnowfreak said: DTW finished at 47.1" last winter. Not sure what you mean 79%. That is an interesting thought though, it condensed Winter. Winter lasts so long overall but it's not continuous. Would be interesting if we crammed everything into a couple months. I can't be at home every hour of the day so my measuring isn't perfect, but what I recorded last winter was only 35.6" or 79% of the 45" annual average I find for DTW. A far cry from what you got down that way. You did better in almost every storm/event last winter. Sometimes sig better. Canton seemed to draw the short straw in all but the clipper regime. S Streamers and LES failed pretty badly for me here. And every time I thought maybe it was "just me" and due to being at work when things switched to mix or rain. Then I'd see another report from here that confirmed my low number(s). Hoping this is just a blip, and things will reverse at some juncture. But Idk, this may just be low-ball heaven like Macomb Cnty is on that annual snowfall map. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michsnowfreak Posted December 26, 2022 Share Posted December 26, 2022 45 minutes ago, RogueWaves said: I can't be at home every hour of the day so my measuring isn't perfect, but what I recorded last winter was only 35.6" or 79% of the 45" annual average I find for DTW. A far cry from what you got down that way. You did better in almost every storm/event last winter. Sometimes sig better. Canton seemed to draw the short straw in all but the clipper regime. S Streamers and LES failed pretty badly for me here. And every time I thought maybe it was "just me" and due to being at work when things switched to mix or rain. Then I'd see another report from here that confirmed my low number(s). Hoping this is just a blip, and things will reverse at some juncture. But Idk, this may just be low-ball heaven like Macomb Cnty is on that annual snowfall map. Oh. I'm sorry I misread that. I thought you meant DTW was 79% of average. I have a friend in Livonia who can attest to getting less than DTW/downriver last winter. And again so far this year with the Nov and Dec events so far. I'm sure it's a blip though. You should not avg less than the small spot in Macomb Co or algonac which averages a bit less. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoosier Posted January 4, 2023 Share Posted January 4, 2023 How about the weekend? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaveNay Posted January 4, 2023 Share Posted January 4, 2023 On 12/24/2022 at 11:01 PM, fluoronium said: Upcoming torch is looking really nice about now. A lot of areas are going to get much needed rainfall. Those are kinda old maps... 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WaryWarren Posted January 4, 2023 Share Posted January 4, 2023 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A-L-E-K Posted January 4, 2023 Share Posted January 4, 2023 Wad 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Powerball Posted January 4, 2023 Share Posted January 4, 2023 It is looking pretty dire for you all... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OrdIowPitMsp Posted January 4, 2023 Share Posted January 4, 2023 Well that extended about locks in 40F and overcast for the first half of May. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoosier Posted January 5, 2023 Share Posted January 5, 2023 7 hours ago, DaveNay said: Those are kinda old maps... Feel like this is one of those times when the CPC maps can be misleading. It's not an inferno regime, but it is pretty high confidence for modestly to moderately warmer than average. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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