Hoosier Posted February 25, 2023 Share Posted February 25, 2023 I'm sure the DC crowd likes the 12z Euro. Gonna be sad when Lucy pulls the football away. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoosier Posted February 25, 2023 Share Posted February 25, 2023 18z GFS still has the storm in the sub, so I guess that's good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cary67 Posted February 25, 2023 Share Posted February 25, 2023 11 minutes ago, Hoosier said: 18z GFS still has the storm in the sub, so I guess that's good. Do the ensembles keep southside over to DTW in play? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OrdIowPitMsp Posted February 25, 2023 Share Posted February 25, 2023 Gonna be on the far NW side of a deep low in February and it’s still gonna rain. Weird year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoosier Posted February 26, 2023 Share Posted February 26, 2023 2 hours ago, Cary67 said: Do the ensembles keep southside over to DTW in play? Yes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoosier Posted February 26, 2023 Share Posted February 26, 2023 00z GFS continues with an impressive look for the storm next week. CCB on the order of 65-75 kts. Would certainly be a windy storm. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OrdIowPitMsp Posted February 28, 2023 Share Posted February 28, 2023 At this point in the year we need to start stat padding to keep our snowpack from decaying. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A-L-E-K Posted March 6, 2023 Share Posted March 6, 2023 miss southing 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cyclone77 Posted March 13, 2023 Share Posted March 13, 2023 Looks like a road salt washer Thursday/Friday. Hopefully no more salt needed this season. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonger Posted March 15, 2023 Share Posted March 15, 2023 This not being updated still? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michsnowfreak Posted March 15, 2023 Share Posted March 15, 2023 4 hours ago, Jonger said: This not being updated still? Those maps were horrible.They had interns playing around with Co-Op data and the maps were extremely inaccurate. I'm fine with them stopping them. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RogueWaves Posted March 19, 2023 Share Posted March 19, 2023 On 3/15/2023 at 5:25 PM, michsnowfreak said: Those maps were horrible.They had interns playing around with Co-Op data and the maps were extremely inaccurate. I'm fine with them stopping them. Better than nothing imho. Unless you have another resource for better maps? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stebo Posted March 19, 2023 Share Posted March 19, 2023 16 minutes ago, RogueWaves said: Better than nothing imho. Unless you have another resource for better maps? Honestly, nothing is better than terribly inaccurate maps. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michsnowfreak Posted March 19, 2023 Share Posted March 19, 2023 2 hours ago, RogueWaves said: Better than nothing imho. Unless you have another resource for better maps? I would have gladly made the maps if they would have paid me lol. A truly accurate map would take a lot of Time time because you'd have to analyze individual events each winter and the pns statements that went with them. These are the sites they report consistent snowfall data: DTW, FNT, MBS, DTX, ARB. Everything else is relying on coop and cocohras data. While some coop observers are diligent (myself included hehe) others are not. So what you would get is the coop sites that were filled with missing data, or would call a snowfall that had melted or sublimated a trace by their observation time, are going to have much lower totals than other nearby areas. So when you take all those numbers and make a map. You're making all these weird squiggles and circles to try and make it make sense when it doesnt. As stebo said. Nothing is better than somethinh wildly inaccurate data. Coop observer data is often notorious for lowballed snow data, so there's little accuracy to the actual accumulated season total data. Now they do have an archive for all their event writeups which is great because you can see the haves and have not for individual events. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dmc76 Posted March 19, 2023 Share Posted March 19, 2023 Worst maps ever! Total trash. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RogueWaves Posted March 19, 2023 Share Posted March 19, 2023 9 hours ago, michsnowfreak said: I would have gladly made the maps if they would have paid me lol. A truly accurate map would take a lot of Time time because you'd have to analyze individual events each winter and the pns statements that went with them. These are the sites they report consistent snowfall data: DTW, FNT, MBS, DTX, ARB. Everything else is relying on coop and cocohras data. While some coop observers are diligent (myself included hehe) others are not. So what you would get is the coop sites that were filled with missing data, or would call a snowfall that had melted or sublimated a trace by their observation time, are going to have much lower totals than other nearby areas. So when you take all those numbers and make a map. You're making all these weird squiggles and circles to try and make it make sense when it doesnt. As stebo said. Nothing is better than somethinh wildly inaccurate data. Coop observer data is often notorious for lowballed snow data, so there's little accuracy to the actual accumulated season total data. Now they do have an archive for all their event writeups which is great because you can see the haves and have not for individual events. I get all that and precision suffers ofc. APX finds a way to make it happen. Perhaps they should share their secret with the two SMI offices. I like maps, lol. In your opinion, how far off are they on avg? 6" in a season, or even more in certain regions? And you hint that it is almost always a lower amount of snow. I'd be more concerned if totals were artificially inflated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Posted March 19, 2023 Share Posted March 19, 2023 9 hours ago, RogueWaves said: I get all that and precision suffers ofc. APX finds a way to make it happen. Perhaps they should share their secret with the two SMI offices. I like maps, lol. In your opinion, how far off are they on avg? 6" in a season, or even more in certain regions? And you hint that it is almost always a lower amount of snow. I'd be more concerned if totals were artificially inflated. I have seen those maps be off 2+feet for seasonal snowfall. Ofcourse it's a bit trickier thanks to the lake out this way. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michsnowfreak Posted March 19, 2023 Share Posted March 19, 2023 9 hours ago, RogueWaves said: I get all that and precision suffers ofc. APX finds a way to make it happen. Perhaps they should share their secret with the two SMI offices. I like maps, lol. In your opinion, how far off are they on avg? 6" in a season, or even more in certain regions? And you hint that it is almost always a lower amount of snow. I'd be more concerned if totals were artificially inflated. The grosse pointe spotter, which was the only observer near Detroit city proper, used to be notorious for low balling and tons of missing data. But yet those maps would represent whatever amount was reported, including the low balls, missing data, and all. They've gotten a bit better but still not great. Just ask powerball lol, he used to live near there. It causes the maps to have an unrealistic representation for detroit and the far east side. I understand they are working with what they had, but I wish there were more diligent observers. There are also handful of good observers who phone in for individual storms but don't keep consistent data. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevo6899 Posted March 20, 2023 Share Posted March 20, 2023 Euro still showing a storm for next weekend, and canadian now onboard.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A-L-E-K Posted March 20, 2023 Share Posted March 20, 2023 1 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevo6899 Posted March 20, 2023 Share Posted March 20, 2023 12 minutes ago, A-L-E-K said: I'd feel more comfortable if I was more out by you than in se mi. This has nw trend written all-over it if if bombs out like the gfs portrays. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sbnwx85 Posted March 20, 2023 Share Posted March 20, 2023 50 minutes ago, A-L-E-K said: Excited to explain why I'm playing this in the newsroom. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malacka11 Posted March 20, 2023 Share Posted March 20, 2023 Go big or go home 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Posted March 20, 2023 Share Posted March 20, 2023 1 hour ago, Stevo6899 said: I'd feel more comfortable if I was more out by you than in se mi. This has nw trend written all-over it if if bombs out like the gfs portrays. Unless that MJO can make a run at 4 the nw trend thing should stay dead as it has most of this month. Ofcourse it looks to be headed into the COD next weekend and beyond so harder to say beyond that time frame. The EPO, NAO, AO look to tank later this week as well. Interesting times ahead for sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baum Posted March 21, 2023 Share Posted March 21, 2023 start the thread. we're screwed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cary67 Posted March 21, 2023 Share Posted March 21, 2023 Not worried. Not enough cold air around till you get to DTW Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baum Posted March 21, 2023 Share Posted March 21, 2023 39 minutes ago, Cary67 said: Not worried. Not enough cold air around till you get to DTW famous last words. Plus I have a fantasy baseball draft in Madison on Saturday. It would only be fitting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A-L-E-K Posted March 21, 2023 Share Posted March 21, 2023 looks comically similar to all the other events this season, amazing consistency really 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RCNYILWX Posted March 21, 2023 Share Posted March 21, 2023 looks comically similar to all the other events this season, amazing consistency reallyThe common miss northwest or the (less common this season) miss southeast special. Place your bets and run. Picking that this will be the event to jackpot the heart of the metro would be like those who put money on FDU and Princeton to win their first round games. Not smart bets, but felt good when they worked out. 1 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheClimateChanger Posted March 21, 2023 Share Posted March 21, 2023 Mild winter regionwide per the Accumulated Winter Season Severity Index (AWSSI), with several locations observing a record mild winter thus far. Seems to be a bit of disconnect in Michigan, where some folks are reporting more snowfall than usual, but this objective measure is showing this past winter to have been very mild. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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