hardypalmguy Posted January 5, 2023 Share Posted January 5, 2023 13 hours ago, OrdIowPitMsp said: Well that extended about locks in 40F and overcast for the first half of May. It's going to be a rocking severe weather season. Declining Nina. Ninas tend to give us craptastic springs with late snows. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hardypalmguy Posted January 5, 2023 Share Posted January 5, 2023 7 hours ago, Hoosier said: Feel like this is one of those times when the CPC maps can be misleading. It's not an inferno regime, but it is pretty high confidence for modestly to moderately warmer than average. I'm getting January 2012 vibes big time. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CheeselandSkies Posted January 5, 2023 Share Posted January 5, 2023 1 hour ago, hardypalmguy said: I'm getting January 2012 vibes big time. Well 2012 was a lousy severe weather season because it never rained, let alone stormed, from about March through sometime in September. I think there were only four tornadoes in Wisconsin all year. Since then I became a firm believer that we need to have a snowback to melt off in the spring in order to not set the table for a drought. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SchaumburgStormer Posted January 5, 2023 Share Posted January 5, 2023 10 hours ago, Hoosier said: Feel like this is one of those times when the CPC maps can be misleading. It's not an inferno regime, but it is pretty high confidence for modestly to moderately warmer than average. Misleading a bit, yes. But from a sensible weather standpoint, Chicago's average high in January is ~31 degrees. So warmer than average pushes us to the wrong side of the freeze line for those who enjoy such things. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Powerball Posted January 5, 2023 Share Posted January 5, 2023 3 hours ago, CheeselandSkies said: Well 2012 was a lousy severe weather season because it never rained, let alone stormed, from about March through sometime in September. I think there were only four tornadoes in Wisconsin all year. Since then I became a firm believer that we need to have a snowback to melt off in the spring in order to not set the table for a drought. June and July were pretty active, at least for the eastern/southern lakes and Ohio Valley In Detroit, 7/4 featured numerous late-day hail cores & flash flooding across the area after temps surged to a near-record high of 101*F with mostly sunny skies. That was followed by an early morning squall line on 7/5 that produced widespread wind damage. Then of course, there was the notorious 6/29 - 6/30 derecho that tracked from Chicago to DC. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago Storm Posted January 5, 2023 Author Share Posted January 5, 2023 On 1/4/2023 at 11:17 AM, Hoosier said: How about the weekend? looks like a usual saturday and sunday. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danny8 Posted January 5, 2023 Share Posted January 5, 2023 On 12/24/2022 at 4:47 PM, michsnowfreak said: @Mimillman, here's the graphic. Wonder when they will release 1991-2020. 1991-2020 is out now. Although the map definitely has some issues, for example Gaylord & Kalkaska normals should have them in the red 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RogueWaves Posted January 5, 2023 Share Posted January 5, 2023 9 minutes ago, Danny8 said: 1991-2020 is out now. Although the map definitely has some issues, for example Grayling & Kalkaska normals should have them in the red And the lame 90's hosed SEMI it would appear. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sbnwx85 Posted January 5, 2023 Share Posted January 5, 2023 1 hour ago, Danny8 said: 1991-2020 is out now. Although the map definitely has some issues, for example Gaylord & Kalkaska normals should have them in the red Interesting to see such low totals in these parts compared to the previous map. I believe at one point the average snowfall in South Bend was near 70" per year. The data I can find now shows it is 62.5" per year. I wonder if that number will drop again with this latest release. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CorePunch Posted January 6, 2023 Share Posted January 6, 2023 Wow, this month is really disappointing. Hopefully old man winter comes back with some punishment at the end of this month through early March. We can only hope. ❄️ 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoosier Posted January 6, 2023 Share Posted January 6, 2023 4 hours ago, Chicago Storm said: looks like a usual saturday and sunday. That's no way to talk about the snow spitter sliding south. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hardypalmguy Posted January 6, 2023 Share Posted January 6, 2023 Winter is dead. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RogueWaves Posted January 6, 2023 Share Posted January 6, 2023 16 minutes ago, hardypalmguy said: Winter is dead. When did it live? I missed it that day 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoosier Posted January 6, 2023 Share Posted January 6, 2023 I get all my weather from the Gruber Law Offices. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cyclone77 Posted January 6, 2023 Share Posted January 6, 2023 13 minutes ago, Hoosier said: I get all my weather from the Gruber Law Offices. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoosier Posted January 6, 2023 Share Posted January 6, 2023 10 minutes ago, cyclone77 said: Hans Gruber > Gruber Law Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CheeselandSkies Posted January 6, 2023 Share Posted January 6, 2023 24 minutes ago, Hoosier said: I get all my weather from the Gruber Law Offices. I have a T-shirt I got from the cannon at a Milwaukee Bucks game, has the team logo on the front and the Gruber logo and "One call, that's all!" slogan on the back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michsnowfreak Posted January 6, 2023 Share Posted January 6, 2023 6 hours ago, RogueWaves said: And the lame 90's hosed SEMI it would appear. Actually, 1991 to 2020 normals are I believe the highest 30 year normal snowfall for both Detroit (45.0") and Flint (52.1"). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michsnowfreak Posted January 6, 2023 Share Posted January 6, 2023 2 hours ago, RogueWaves said: When did it live? I missed it that day December. Will return by February. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoosier Posted January 6, 2023 Share Posted January 6, 2023 Oh hi RP 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RogueWaves Posted January 7, 2023 Share Posted January 7, 2023 On 1/5/2023 at 11:51 PM, michsnowfreak said: Actually, 1991 to 2020 normals are I believe the highest 30 year normal snowfall for both Detroit (45.0") and Flint (52.1"). Ikr, so what happened on the updated map?? Looking at SEMI the amts were lowered across the board, lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoosier Posted January 8, 2023 Share Posted January 8, 2023 GFS is really trying for a respectable wintry system late week. Guess much will depend on the amount of confluence to the north. GFS has a good amount of that with a respectable resultant surface high in place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chambana Posted January 8, 2023 Share Posted January 8, 2023 26 minutes ago, Hoosier said: GFS is really trying for a respectable wintry system late week. Guess much will depend on the amount of confluence to the north. GFS has a good amount of that with a respectable resultant surface high in place. Toss. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chinook Posted January 8, 2023 Share Posted January 8, 2023 The 00z GFS changes the look of the system in the late week. It moves up the low pressure timing at Toledo to Friday, 03z (really, Thursday, 10:00PM). It with a stronger low pressure, at 996mb. It has the rain/snow transition in Michigan/Indiana, with something like 11-14" of snow at Howell, Michigan, depending on 10:1 or Kuchera snow ratios. Kucheras are lower than 10:1. I know, it's at 5 days out or maybe 6 days out, which means that it will trend in some direction. It almost certainly will trend towards less than 11-14" of snow for any area in the Midwest. And the Canadian global model says, "what storm?" As of right now, some ECMWF and GFS ensemble members have a pretty high QPF for southeast Michigan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CorePunch Posted January 8, 2023 Share Posted January 8, 2023 26 minutes ago, Chinook said: The 00z GFS changes the look of the system in the late week. It moves up the low pressure timing at Toledo to Friday, 03z (really, Thursday, 10:00PM). It with a stronger low pressure, at 996mb. It has the rain/snow transition in Michigan/Indiana, with something like 11-14" of snow at Howell, Michigan, depending on 10:1 or Kuchera snow ratios. Kucheras are lower than 10:1. I know, it's at 5 days out or maybe 6 days out, which means that it will trend in some direction. It almost certainly will trend towards less than 11-14" of snow for any area in the Midwest. And the Canadian global model says, "what storm?" As of right now, some ECMWF and GFS ensemble members have a pretty high QPF for southeast Michigan. Send it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chinook Posted January 8, 2023 Share Posted January 8, 2023 The GEFS members have temps above freezing for much of this time frame Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michsnowfreak Posted January 8, 2023 Share Posted January 8, 2023 20 hours ago, RogueWaves said: Ikr, so what happened on the updated map?? Looking at SEMI the amts were lowered across the board, lol If you look close so they weren't really lowered. Just some noise changes. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mimillman Posted January 8, 2023 Share Posted January 8, 2023 DTW gonna reel in a few inches. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoosier Posted January 8, 2023 Share Posted January 8, 2023 24 minutes ago, mimillman said: DTW gonna reel in a few inches. No flakes for us? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ILSNOW Posted January 8, 2023 Share Posted January 8, 2023 Minneapolis hasn’t had snow in 48 hours they are due!! 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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