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Upstate/Eastern New York-Into Winter!


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7 hours ago, Weather Mike said:

When do you think there will be a good consensus on where the main LES will form ? 
 

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Probably about as close to a call as you’ll get right now.  Might see some small flips and flops but immediate metro area looks to be best bet.  Some options right across street from airport.  Also a hotel near the Walden Galleria mall a little south of there and then even a little more south in West Seneca some places near the I90 exit.  If you have any questions on places or the area toss them up here. 

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Depends if your coming up to camp outside the band and try and venture into or if your looking to setup shop under the band and be in ground zero.  If it’s a 2 footer or less things will be cleared up fairly quickly to leave town but if we’re going to experience extreme rates like in Nov 14 you will likely become stranded for some time, possibly more than a day.  Also important to note the main thruways will all likely be closed just prior to and following the storm.  This does look like it’s going to be a big one, if you can get the time off I would highly recommend the trip up.  

I’m going to do what I can, all depends on work schedule

Thanks all! Most snow I ever saw in one event was around 30”. I couldn’t imagine how awesome an experience of 2-4” rates and 36-48” would be


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1 hour ago, donsutherland1 said:

On November 19, 2022, Buffalo picked up 21.5" daily snowfall during a 4-day lake effect snowstorm that deposited 36.6" of snow. The average highest daily snowfall during the snow season has been increasing in recent years. 
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The recording station changed in 1940 from right along the lakeshore to where it currently is at the Buffalo airport. That has a lot to do with this dataset. 

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Going farther into the extended forecast, the system that passes
Wednesday night may be the first push at really changing the long
wave pattern over North America. As that system`s mid-level
reflection pushes toward northern Quebec by the end of the week, a
potential Fujiwhara interaction seems set to occur as a sub-490 dam
500 hPa low begins to amble southward from the far northern islands
of Nunavut toward the eastern Northwest Territories. GEFS ensemble
forecasts for teleconnection patterns offer some suggestion of a
pattern change going into December, with the NAO and AO trending
negative. All the while cold air will be pooling across much of
Canada, so if the high latitude pattern changes do indeed start to
influence the mid latitudes, a colder pattern may be on the horizon.
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In a general sense, a -AO/-NAO pattern increases the likelihood of
impactful winter weather in the northeast US, but in this case it is
also coupled with a -PNA pattern, which favors cold to be focused
more in the Northwest US and northern Plains with seasonable warmth
favored on average in the eastern US. Model guidance continues to
show considerable uncertainty starting next weekend with significant
run to run swings in the handling of synoptic scale details, which
is to be expected in a large scale pattern such as this. This will
likely continue in the coming days as model guidance attempts to
distill this low predictability pattern. Any one model run should be
taken with a grain of salt in this pattern.
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