November 2022 OBS/DISC

[WinterWolf]

1 hour ago, ORH_wxman said:

Right on schedule because mid-November average temps are right on par with early April. Though early April skews a little snowier than mid-November.

I love this!  These folks make themselves look so silly. Great post. 
 

I guess if it doesn’t look like a frozen tundra on 11/20, there must be something wrong? It’s Laughable. 

[Snowcrazed71]

1 hour ago, Damage In Tolland said:

 

Hey Man, since you have an in with the devil, maybe you can take one for the team and fondle his weenie a little bit, that way he can lay off the heat and we can get our big cold and snowy December and maybe January. Just figured I'd ask. ;-)

[Great Snow 1717]

5 minutes ago, WinterWolf said:

I love this!  These folks make themselves look so silly. Great post. 
 

I guess if it doesn’t look like a frozen tundra on 11/20, there must be something wrong? It’s Laughable. 

Back in the day mid to late November did not "look" early April. There was a obvious difference.  

[WinterWolf]

Just now, Great Snow 1717 said:

Back in the day mid to late November did not "look" early April. There was an obvious difference.  

I Think a lot of folks memory is hazy on that. I’m 54, and as long as I can remember, it didn’t look frozen, and/or snowy most mid/late Novembers.  Sure some do and have over the years, but more times than not, it doesn’t.  

[Great Snow 1717]

1 minute ago, WinterWolf said:

I Think a lot of folks memory is hazy on that. I’m 54, and as long as I can remember, it didn’t look frozen, and/or snowy most mid/late Novembers.  Sure some do and have over the years, but more times than not, it doesn’t.  

My memory isn't hazy at all...lol....

[weathafella]

13 minutes ago, Great Snow 1717 said:

Back in the day mid to late November did not "look" early April. There was a obvious difference.  

That hasn’t been true in my lifetime including my 38 years in New England.   Snow in November is rare.   Normal climo today for Boston is 49 max.   We always had cold days in November but rarely snow more than a light accumulation and even that has generally been hit or miss.   Has everyone forgotten winter moths that we get during the warmer November’s and December’s?   
 

Regarding Canadian geese:   They hang around in SNE and winter here at least for the past 31 years which is when I moved back from LA.

[MJO812]

Gorgeous epo pattern on the gfs for early December

[Great Snow 1717]

1 minute ago, weathafella said:

That hasn’t been true in my lifetime including my 38 years in New England.   Snow in November is rare.   Normal climo today for Boston is 49 max.   We always had cold days in November but rarely snow more than a light accumulation and even that has generally been hit or miss.   Has everyone forgotten winter moths that we get during the warmer November’s and December’s?   
 

Regarding Canadian geese:   They hang around in SNE and winter here at least for the past 31 years which is when I moved back from LA.

Did I mention snow???

There are more geese in the Methuen area than I can ever recall.  They are battling the crows for territory....it's like 2 gangs having a turf war. 

[RUNNAWAYICEBERG]

8 minutes ago, MJO812 said:

Gorgeous epo pattern on the gfs for early December

Pope thawing his frozen weenie in the confessional. 

[weathafella]

9 minutes ago, Great Snow 1717 said:

Did I mention snow???

There are more geese in the Methuen area than I can ever recall.  They are battling the crows for territory....it's like 2 gangs having a turf war. 

What you mentioned was the green grass etc.   it’s been well below early April normal temperatures for a week.  Give it a month and then it changes to blah color.  That to me is a typical progression although I admit the first 10 days of November were absurdly warm.

[Go Kart Mozart]

43 minutes ago, Great Snow 1717 said:

Back in the day mid to late November did not "look" early April. There was a obvious difference.  

Scientific analysis.

[Great Snow 1717]

The article is nearly 5 years old but the problem with the crows has only gotten worse since the time it was written. Now there are flocks of geese battling the crows. At times it is like watching a "dogfight" in the sky.

https://www.eagletribune.com/news/in-lawrence-a-massive-and-wily-flock-of-crows-delivers-a-winter-mix-of-urban/article_13895400-0dd1-11e8-acf5-c378a515f53

[SnoSki14]

55 minutes ago, MJO812 said:

Gorgeous epo pattern on the gfs for early December

GEFS pulled back some. Patience will be needed

[Allsnow]

10 minutes ago, SnoSki14 said:

GEFS pulled back some. Patience will be needed

Patience pattern? 

[HIPPYVALLEY]

Just now, Allsnow said:

Patience pattern? 

We have seen a few of those over the years.

[40/70 Benchmark]

15 minutes ago, SnoSki14 said:

GEFS pulled back some. Patience will be needed

I think the goal posts are essentially my version of December, which punts the first week to 10 days of the month for SNE, and the more aggressive versions of yesterday and last night. I don't think that the month will go to shit.

[weathafella]

19 minutes ago, SnoSki14 said:

GEFS pulled back some. Patience will be needed

Beer?

 

 

[ORH_wxman]

GEFS pushing the SE ridge a bit more....looks closer to EPS from last night. That's a pretty good pattern though for here....problematic down south though.

 

 

[40/70 Benchmark]

2 minutes ago, weathafella said:

Beer?

 

 

I get why he is a bit more paranoid down in Jersey.

[40/70 Benchmark]

Just now, ORH_wxman said:

GEFS pushing the SE ridge a bit more....looks closer to EPS from last night. That's a pretty good pattern though for here....problematic down south though.

 

 

Sign me up. I'd take that over Feb 2010.

[Damage In Tolland]

9 minutes ago, Allsnow said:

Patience pattern? 

Worst weather term ever. Whenever you see it or hear it , it means push back and back and back and just offers no consistent promise or anything to look forward to .

[40/70 Benchmark]

2 minutes ago, ORH_wxman said:

GEFS pushing the SE ridge a bit more....looks closer to EPS from last night. That's a pretty good pattern though for here....problematic down south though.

 

 

That is more like my version of the month.

[CoastalWx]

I like the GEFS.

[CoastalWx]

2 minutes ago, 40/70 Benchmark said:

Sign me up. I'd take that over Feb 2010.

Everyone thinks we need to see deep blues at 500mb kissing the Gulf Coast. No thanks.

[WinterWolf]

2 minutes ago, 40/70 Benchmark said:

I get why he is a bit more paranoid down in Jersey.

But the problem is that he’s in here saying things that apply to Jersey, and not necessarily to SNE.  So that’s where the disconnect comes in.  The pattern looks dam good for SNE…for him in Jersey, maybe it’s a tad more dicey?  

[weathafella]

And as far as pulling back-last nights 384 vs today’s 372.

 

 

[40/70 Benchmark]

2 minutes ago, WinterWolf said:

But the problem is that he’s in here saying things that apply to Jersey, and not necessarily to SNE.  So that’s where the disconnect comes in.  The pattern looks dam good for SNE…for him in Jersey, maybe it’s a tad more dicey?  

Yea, but people come here for good analysis because we have great mets in these threads, and its hard to totally check the IMBY goggles at the door.

I get it.

[CoastalWx]

9 minutes ago, 40/70 Benchmark said:

Yea, but people come here for good analysis because we have great mets in these threads, and its hard to totally check the IMBY goggles at the door.

I get it.

That next 10+ days or so are boring. It's more post 12/5..maybe 12/10 IMO. 

[weathafella]

2 minutes ago, CoastalWx said:

That next 10+ days or so are boring. It's more post 12/5..maybe 12/10 IMO. 

I’d rather the boredom now.  An active pattern 11/22-12/6 typically produces mainly rain for most of sne.

[ORH_wxman]

3 minutes ago, CoastalWx said:

That next 10+ days or so are boring. It's more post 12/5..maybe 12/10 IMO. 

Lots of Kevin tantrums in here over the next 10 days complaining that there's no deep snow cover by 12/1.