Baroclinic Zone Posted November 19, 2022 Author Share Posted November 19, 2022 in and up Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJO812 Posted November 19, 2022 Share Posted November 19, 2022 33 minutes ago, WinterWolf said: It never was. Nothing but a flash in the pan. The endless Boredom Continues….what a shit stretch of nothingness…it is remarkable in that aspect. San Diego in SNE. What a terrible change Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damage In Tolland Posted November 19, 2022 Share Posted November 19, 2022 Warm and dry well into Dec now. Pope with the W Shouting at Devil 1 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WinterWolf Posted November 19, 2022 Share Posted November 19, 2022 1 minute ago, Damage In Tolland said: Warm and dry well into Dec now. Pope with the W Shouting at Devil Pope still lost …PERIOD! Ginxy smoked him. That is not in dispute. Pope said this change(cold) was not happening, and it has. He lost. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baroclinic Zone Posted November 19, 2022 Author Share Posted November 19, 2022 fight! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted November 19, 2022 Share Posted November 19, 2022 2 minutes ago, WinterWolf said: Pope still lost …PERIOD! Ginxy smoked him. That is not in dispute. Pope said this change(cold) was not happening, and it has. He lost. Yeah he referenced this week. Early December was looking milder for A long time. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damage In Tolland Posted November 19, 2022 Share Posted November 19, 2022 3 minutes ago, WinterWolf said: Pope still lost …PERIOD! Ginxy smoked him. That is not in dispute. Pope said this change(cold) was not happening, and it has. He lost. I thought he was meaning Tgiving and beyond which looks mild to warm and dry . Ninas get us everytime . This one no different.LR models always fail 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WinterWolf Posted November 19, 2022 Share Posted November 19, 2022 Just now, CoastalWx said: Yeah he referenced this week. Early December was looking milder for A long time. This. He(Pope)was clearly on the wrong side of things. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WinterWolf Posted November 19, 2022 Share Posted November 19, 2022 Just now, Damage In Tolland said: I thought he was meaning Tgiving and beyond which looks mild to warm and dry . Ninas get us everytime . This one no different.LR models always fail No he(Pope) was meaning this current cold weather. A few weeks ago when Ginxy said we had a change coming after the warmth, Pope said no not happening…he was way off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WinterWolf Posted November 19, 2022 Share Posted November 19, 2022 2 minutes ago, Damage In Tolland said: I thought he was meaning Tgiving and beyond which looks mild to warm and dry . Ninas get us everytime . This one no different.LR models always fail Nina’s have also treated us fabulous too…so it’s a double edge sword. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJO812 Posted November 19, 2022 Share Posted November 19, 2022 5 minutes ago, CoastalWx said: Yeah he referenced this week. Early December was looking milder for A long time. Not according to this 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted November 19, 2022 Share Posted November 19, 2022 December to start looked milder for a long time. Sounds like folks got confused. But it’s too bad not much happened other than a coating to an inch inland that lasted two hours during this stretch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJO812 Posted November 19, 2022 Share Posted November 19, 2022 1 minute ago, WinterWolf said: Nina’s have also treated us fabulous too…so it’s a double edge sword. NAO and AO are favorable Maybe the models will catch on to that 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowman19 Posted November 19, 2022 Share Posted November 19, 2022 NAO and AO are favorable Maybe the models will catch on to that Ok JB . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJO812 Posted November 19, 2022 Share Posted November 19, 2022 1 minute ago, snowman19 said: Ok JB . Someone is happy the pattern sucks 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted November 19, 2022 Share Posted November 19, 2022 4 minutes ago, MJO812 said: Not according to this Didn’t look at that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baroclinic Zone Posted November 19, 2022 Author Share Posted November 19, 2022 2 minutes ago, MJO812 said: Someone is happy the pattern sucks Check your calendar and your location. It's doesn't snow that often where you live this time of year. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WinterWolf Posted November 19, 2022 Share Posted November 19, 2022 1 minute ago, snowman19 said: Ok JB . Well Will just said we’ll have to rely on The AO/NAO for some help..so not impossible, so Ant has a point that’s backed up by a wise Meteorologist. So who knows? My feeling is the Atlantic is a slim Hope if the Pacific is that hostile, but it all comes down to just how hostile the pacific gets? Not too hostile and the Atlantic could certainly help us. But that remains to be seen. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EastonSN+ Posted November 19, 2022 Share Posted November 19, 2022 Looks to be moving into phase 7 pretty quick. The upcoming unfavorable PAC may be due to the current unfavorable phases. I know more to weather than just MJO and there is a lag. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SnowGoose69 Posted November 19, 2022 Share Posted November 19, 2022 Just now, EastonSN+ said: Looks to be moving into phase 7 pretty quick. The upcoming unfavorable PAC may be due to the current unfavorable phases. I know more to weather than just MJO and there is a lag. No shocker too once again the EC tries killing it back into the circle while the GEFS is blasting it into 8...it seems the last 3-4 years the Euro has been regularly schooled by the GEFS when it shows more amplitude 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TauntonBlizzard2013 Posted November 19, 2022 Share Posted November 19, 2022 Get a good look at what’s happening around Buffalo. Won’t see anything like that around here for a while. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JC-CT Posted November 19, 2022 Share Posted November 19, 2022 6 minutes ago, TauntonBlizzard2013 said: Get a good look at what’s happening around Buffalo. Won’t see anything like that around here for a while. Ever? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cleetussnow Posted November 19, 2022 Share Posted November 19, 2022 2 minutes ago, JC-CT said: Ever? Yeah ever. Seriously never. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HIPPYVALLEY Posted November 19, 2022 Share Posted November 19, 2022 3 minutes ago, JC-CT said: Ever? Many in SNE won’t see those two day totals for the entire winter. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EastonSN+ Posted November 19, 2022 Share Posted November 19, 2022 23 minutes ago, SnowGoose69 said: No shocker too once again the EC tries killing it back into the circle while the GEFS is blasting it into 8...it seems the last 3-4 years the Euro has been regularly schooled by the GEFS when it shows more amplitude Yea here is the EC. Seems to be doing exactly what it did last wave. At least the MJO has been predictable. Keeps looping 5678 with 67 being the focus. Problem is I believe 7 becomes unfavorable in January if I am not mistaken. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowman19 Posted November 19, 2022 Share Posted November 19, 2022 No shocker too once again the EC tries killing it back into the circle while the GEFS is blasting it into 8...it seems the last 3-4 years the Euro has been regularly schooled by the GEFS when it shows more amplitudeThose charts aren’t accurate and almost always wrong. If you look at the actual forcing (VP) it’s in phase 6 that’s why the PAC goes to garbage . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ORH_wxman Posted November 19, 2022 Share Posted November 19, 2022 51 minutes ago, WinterWolf said: AO/NAO way overrated. Hostile pacific is no good for us. Sometimes. Not always. As usual nuances are important. PAC was kind of crappy in Dec 1995 but we had an excellent NAO block up near Baffin/northern Hudson Bay that really did some magic. Heck, even Dec 2010 the PAC was not very good…lowish-amplitude -WPO with very negative PNA but we had a monster NAO block. December 2003 was another one. Pretty ugly N PAC but we lived off the good Atlantic early that month. If the PAC is a true death pig in AK, then usually we are screwed regardless. But if it’s just moderately hostile, you can still get away with it if other variables help out. 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted November 19, 2022 Share Posted November 19, 2022 4 minutes ago, snowman19 said: Those charts aren’t accurate and almost always wrong. If you look at the actual forcing (VP) it’s in phase 6 that’s why the PAC goes to garbage . RMM plots are typically too noisy. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EastonSN+ Posted November 19, 2022 Share Posted November 19, 2022 7 minutes ago, snowman19 said: Those charts aren’t accurate and almost always wrong. If you look at the actual forcing (VP) it’s in phase 6 that’s why the PAC goes to garbage . The chart shows it's in 6 now so that seems correct then. The wave will go through 7 then low 8 same as last one. Will not stop in 6. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EastonSN+ Posted November 19, 2022 Share Posted November 19, 2022 I think we wil have a good period in mid late December then we will see what happens. May be hostile PAC vs. persistent blocking which can work especially in Jan Feb and March. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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