bluewave Posted November 26, 2022 Share Posted November 26, 2022 13 minutes ago, EastonSN+ said: Thanks for this. One thing I would like to throw out there is Bridgeport under reports by at least 20%. So every single town, including Bridgeport itself outside of the Stratfield airport where the measurements are taken, are wayyyyyy higher than the above. At no point was any town in SW CT lower than 30 for average annual. BDR records are unfortunately useless For instance I was Living in Norwalk on the coast 2000 through 2010, and only receive 3 winters of less than 36 inches. Eclipsed 40 inches 5 times with one at 67 and one at 52. Worst was the blizzard of 1996 where BDR reported 15 while every other town 25 plus. Pathetic on their part. Sorry to vent, however didn't want viewers to believe that SW CT averaged less snowfall than all surrounding areas It’s tough to to say for sure since there is often big difference between Danbury and the immediate coast. Bridgeport isn’t that different from the other surrounding coastal sites. But the interior of Fairfield gets more snow since it’s often north of the rain snow line. Data for October 1, 2021 through May 31, 2022Click column heading to sort ascending, click again to sort descending. Name Station Type Total Snowfall DANBURY COOP 35.1 SHELTON 1.3 W CoCoRaHS 31.2 NEWTOWN 4.6 SE CoCoRaHS 29.4 BETHEL 3.5 NNE CoCoRaHS 29.2 NEW CANAAN 3.8 N CoCoRaHS 28.3 NEW CANAAN 1.9 ENE CoCoRaHS 28.0 IGOR I SIKORSKY MEMORIAL AIRPORT WBAN 27.7 BETHEL 0.5 E CoCoRaHS 26.5 BROOKFIELD 3.3 SSE CoCoRaHS 24.8 NORWALK 2.9 NNW CoCoRaHS 23.2 Data for October 1, 2020 through May 31, 2021Click column heading to sort ascending, click again to sort descending. Name Station Type Total Snowfall RIDGEFIELD 3.6 N CoCoRaHS 53.8 DANBURY COOP 53.7 NEW CANAAN 1.9 ENE CoCoRaHS 47.8 BETHEL 3.5 NNE CoCoRaHS 46.8 DANBURY 3.0 W CoCoRaHS 46.0 BETHEL 0.5 E CoCoRaHS 45.7 SHELTON 1.3 W CoCoRaHS 44.4 IGOR I SIKORSKY MEMORIAL AIRPORT WBAN 43.8 NEWTOWN 4.6 SE CoCoRaHS 43.7 NEWTOWN 4.6 SSW CoCoRaHS 43.0 TRUMBULL 1.2 S CoCoRaHS 39.1 NEW CANAAN 3.8 N CoCoRaHS 38.6 BROOKFIELD 3.3 SSE CoCoRaHS 38.1 NORWALK 2.9 NNW CoCoRaHS 37.3 Data for October 1, 2019 through May 31, 2020Click column heading to sort ascending, click again to sort descending. Name Station Type Total Snowfall NEWTOWN 4.6 SE CoCoRaHS 16.5 SHELTON 1.3 W CoCoRaHS 13.4 BETHEL 3.5 NNE CoCoRaHS 13.3 BETHEL 0.5 E CoCoRaHS 12.5 BROOKFIELD 3.3 SSE CoCoRaHS 12.4 MONROE 0.8 W CoCoRaHS 12.4 NEW CANAAN 1.9 ENE CoCoRaHS 10.5 IGOR I SIKORSKY MEMORIAL AIRPORT WBAN 10.1 NORWALK 2.9 NNW CoCoRaHS 8.4 RIDGEFIELD 1.9 SSE CoCoRaHS 8.0 DARIEN 2.8 NW CoCoRaHS 7.9 MONROE 0.1 SE CoCoRaHS 7.7 DANBURY COOP 6.9 Data for October 1, 2018 through May 31, 2019Click column heading to sort ascending, click again to sort descending. Name Station Type Total Snowfall DANBURY COOP 36.4 NEW CANAAN 1.9 ENE CoCoRaHS 31.9 SHELTON 1.3 W CoCoRaHS 31.8 NEW CANAAN 3.8 N CoCoRaHS 31.4 NEWTOWN 4.3 E CoCoRaHS 31.3 BETHEL 0.5 E CoCoRaHS 29.4 BETHEL 3.5 NNE CoCoRaHS 28.7 NORWALK 2.9 NNW CoCoRaHS 28.6 BROOKFIELD 3.3 SSE CoCoRaHS 27.8 DARIEN 2.8 NW CoCoRaHS 27.1 MONROE 0.1 SE CoCoRaHS 25.8 IGOR I SIKORSKY MEMORIAL AIRPORT WBAN 24.6 SHELTON 2.7 SSE CoCoRaHS 23.3 RIDGEFIELD 1.9 SSE CoCoRaHS 23.1 DARIEN 1.8 ENE CoCoRaHS 22.2 Data for October 1, 2017 through May 31, 2018Click column heading to sort ascending, click again to sort descending. Name Station Type Total Snowfall DANBURY COOP 77.1 BETHEL 0.5 E CoCoRaHS 65.6 SHELTON 1.3 W CoCoRaHS 65.0 BETHEL 3.5 NNE CoCoRaHS 63.0 NEW CANAAN 1.9 ENE CoCoRaHS 61.1 BROOKFIELD 3.3 SSE CoCoRaHS 59.9 NEWTOWN 4.6 SSW CoCoRaHS 58.6 NORWALK 2.9 NNW CoCoRaHS 50.9 NEWTOWN 4.3 E CoCoRaHS 50.2 DARIEN 2.8 NW CoCoRaHS 49.5 BRIDGEPORT-SUCCESS HILL COOP 46.5 IGOR I SIKORSKY MEMORIAL AIRPORT WBAN 45.9 STAMFORD 3.3 NW CoCoRaHS 44.1 DARIEN 1.8 ENE CoCoRaHS 43.8 RIDGEFIELD 1.9 SSE CoCoRaHS 36.5 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the_other_guy Posted November 26, 2022 Share Posted November 26, 2022 31 minutes ago, bluewave said: The average for your area is around 40” since 2010. It was around half that much from 1980 to 2000. So who knows what is average snowfall anymore. Monthly Total Snowfall for IGOR I SIKORSKY MEMORIAL AIRPORT, CTClick column heading to sort ascending, click again to sort descending. Year Oct Nov Dec Jan Feb Mar Apr May Season Mean 0.3 1.1 5.9 12.0 13.8 6.1 0.5 T 39.7 2021-2022 0.0 T 0.2 20.8 4.7 2.0 0.0 0.0 27.7 2020-2021 T T 10.0 3.1 30.7 0.0 0.0 0.0 43.8 2019-2020 0.0 T 5.5 4.6 T T T T 10.1 2018-2019 0.0 5.8 0.5 1.2 3.6 13.5 0.0 0.0 24.6 2017-2018 0.0 0.0 8.7 11.4 5.3 14.5 6.0 0.0 45.9 2016-2017 T T 6.0 11.0 12.8 11.1 0.0 0.0 40.9 2015-2016 T 0.0 0.7 10.3 13.9 2.3 0.1 0.0 27.3 2014-2015 0.0 0.2 0.7 18.7 21.5 18.6 T 0.0 59.7 2013-2014 0.0 0.1 10.9 13.4 32.1 0.8 0.1 0.0 57.4 2012-2013 0.0 8.4 7.8 4.7 30.4 13.0 0.0 0.0 64.3 2011-2012 4.0 0.0 0.0 7.4 2.2 T T 0.0 13.6 2010-2011 0.0 0.4 12.0 42.0 5.0 3.2 T 0.0 62.6 2009-2010 T 0.0 13.4 7.7 16.9 0.1 T 0.0 38.1 Monthly Total Snowfall for IGOR I SIKORSKY MEMORIAL AIRPORT, CTClick column heading to sort ascending, click again to sort descending. Year Oct Nov Dec Jan Feb Mar Apr May Season Mean 0.0 0.7 3.3 7.0 6.2 4.2 1.2 0.0 22.6 1999-2000 0.0 0.0 T 6.5 5.7 0.1 1.0 0.0 13.3 1998-1999 0.0 M 1.1 6.2 3.0 9.6 0.0 0.0 19.9 1997-1998 0.0 T 6.7 1.7 T 0.5 0.0 0.0 8.9 1996-1997 0.0 T 1.0 3.8 2.1 3.8 4.0 0.0 14.7 1995-1996 0.0 2.6 13.8 20.5 16.8 10.2 11.8 0.0 75.7 1994-1995 0.0 T T 1.3 8.0 T T 0.0 9.3 1993-1994 0.0 0.0 1.9 17.3 27.9 7.9 0.0 0.0 55.0 1992-1993 0.0 0.0 2.4 3.3 9.5 13.7 0.0 0.0 28.9 1991-1992 0.0 0.0 2.1 1.8 2.4 10.2 0.0 0.0 16.5 1990-1991 0.0 0.0 7.1 6.3 5.6 3.0 0.0 0.0 22.0 1989-1990 0.0 6.6 4.1 5.2 9.3 4.4 1.7 0.0 31.3 1988-1989 0.0 0.0 7.5 1.6 2.1 1.8 0.0 0.0 13.0 1987-1988 0.5 0.9 1.8 15.5 2.1 2.1 T 0.0 22.9 1986-1987 0.0 1.8 3.3 11.4 2.9 2.7 0.0 0.0 22.1 1985-1986 0.0 1.0 3.5 2.0 11.0 T T 0.0 17.5 1984-1985 0.0 T 1.5 11.2 6.5 0.5 0.0 0.0 19.7 1983-1984 0.0 T 0.6 11.6 T 8.4 0.0 0.0 20.6 1982-1983 0.0 0.0 3.2 5.1 14.2 T 0.5 0.0 23.0 1981-1982 0.0 0.0 3.1 9.0 T 1.6 6.0 0.0 19.7 1980-1981 0.0 1.0 3.6 5.4 T 1.5 0.0 0.0 11.5 1979-1980 T 0.0 0.9 0.7 1.7 6.3 0.0 0.0 9.6 that speaks to a larger problem about how we actually calculate average annual snowfall. I imagine it will all get washed out as a statistical anomaly long range as it becomes too warm to snow frequently. Long Island snowfall isnt going to continue an upward trend medium or long term. It will be rainfall totals that increase Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EastonSN+ Posted November 26, 2022 Share Posted November 26, 2022 1 minute ago, bluewave said: It’s tough to to say for sure since there is often big difference between Danbury and the immediate coast. Bridgeport isn’t that different from the other surrounding coastal sites. But the interior of Fairfield gets more snow since it’s often north of the rain snow line. Data for October 1, 2021 through May 31, 2022Click column heading to sort ascending, click again to sort descending. Name Station Type Total Snowfall DANBURY COOP 35.1 SHELTON 1.3 W CoCoRaHS 31.2 NEWTOWN 4.6 SE CoCoRaHS 29.4 BETHEL 3.5 NNE CoCoRaHS 29.2 NEW CANAAN 3.8 N CoCoRaHS 28.3 NEW CANAAN 1.9 ENE CoCoRaHS 28.0 IGOR I SIKORSKY MEMORIAL AIRPORT WBAN 27.7 BETHEL 0.5 E CoCoRaHS 26.5 BROOKFIELD 3.3 SSE CoCoRaHS 24.8 NORWALK 2.9 NNW CoCoRaHS 23.2 Data for October 1, 2020 through May 31, 2021Click column heading to sort ascending, click again to sort descending. Name Station Type Total Snowfall RIDGEFIELD 3.6 N CoCoRaHS 53.8 DANBURY COOP 53.7 NEW CANAAN 1.9 ENE CoCoRaHS 47.8 BETHEL 3.5 NNE CoCoRaHS 46.8 DANBURY 3.0 W CoCoRaHS 46.0 BETHEL 0.5 E CoCoRaHS 45.7 SHELTON 1.3 W CoCoRaHS 44.4 IGOR I SIKORSKY MEMORIAL AIRPORT WBAN 43.8 NEWTOWN 4.6 SE CoCoRaHS 43.7 NEWTOWN 4.6 SSW CoCoRaHS 43.0 TRUMBULL 1.2 S CoCoRaHS 39.1 NEW CANAAN 3.8 N CoCoRaHS 38.6 BROOKFIELD 3.3 SSE CoCoRaHS 38.1 NORWALK 2.9 NNW CoCoRaHS 37.3 Data for October 1, 2019 through May 31, 2020Click column heading to sort ascending, click again to sort descending. Name Station Type Total Snowfall NEWTOWN 4.6 SE CoCoRaHS 16.5 SHELTON 1.3 W CoCoRaHS 13.4 BETHEL 3.5 NNE CoCoRaHS 13.3 BETHEL 0.5 E CoCoRaHS 12.5 BROOKFIELD 3.3 SSE CoCoRaHS 12.4 MONROE 0.8 W CoCoRaHS 12.4 NEW CANAAN 1.9 ENE CoCoRaHS 10.5 IGOR I SIKORSKY MEMORIAL AIRPORT WBAN 10.1 NORWALK 2.9 NNW CoCoRaHS 8.4 RIDGEFIELD 1.9 SSE CoCoRaHS 8.0 DARIEN 2.8 NW CoCoRaHS 7.9 MONROE 0.1 SE CoCoRaHS 7.7 DANBURY COOP 6.9 Data for October 1, 2018 through May 31, 2019Click column heading to sort ascending, click again to sort descending. Name Station Type Total Snowfall DANBURY COOP 36.4 NEW CANAAN 1.9 ENE CoCoRaHS 31.9 SHELTON 1.3 W CoCoRaHS 31.8 NEW CANAAN 3.8 N CoCoRaHS 31.4 NEWTOWN 4.3 E CoCoRaHS 31.3 BETHEL 0.5 E CoCoRaHS 29.4 BETHEL 3.5 NNE CoCoRaHS 28.7 NORWALK 2.9 NNW CoCoRaHS 28.6 BROOKFIELD 3.3 SSE CoCoRaHS 27.8 DARIEN 2.8 NW CoCoRaHS 27.1 MONROE 0.1 SE CoCoRaHS 25.8 IGOR I SIKORSKY MEMORIAL AIRPORT WBAN 24.6 SHELTON 2.7 SSE CoCoRaHS 23.3 RIDGEFIELD 1.9 SSE CoCoRaHS 23.1 DARIEN 1.8 ENE CoCoRaHS 22.2 Data for October 1, 2017 through May 31, 2018Click column heading to sort ascending, click again to sort descending. Name Station Type Total Snowfall DANBURY COOP 77.1 BETHEL 0.5 E CoCoRaHS 65.6 SHELTON 1.3 W CoCoRaHS 65.0 BETHEL 3.5 NNE CoCoRaHS 63.0 NEW CANAAN 1.9 ENE CoCoRaHS 61.1 BROOKFIELD 3.3 SSE CoCoRaHS 59.9 NEWTOWN 4.6 SSW CoCoRaHS 58.6 NORWALK 2.9 NNW CoCoRaHS 50.9 NEWTOWN 4.3 E CoCoRaHS 50.2 DARIEN 2.8 NW CoCoRaHS 49.5 BRIDGEPORT-SUCCESS HILL COOP 46.5 IGOR I SIKORSKY MEMORIAL AIRPORT WBAN 45.9 STAMFORD 3.3 NW CoCoRaHS 44.1 DARIEN 1.8 ENE CoCoRaHS 43.8 RIDGEFIELD 1.9 SSE CoCoRaHS 36.5 Thanks again. Unfortunately I can guarantee it's not an coast vs. inland issue. Lived in Norwalk (coastal town) my whole life until September 2014. BDR 100% under reports by a large margin. Not saying inland does not do better cause they do, just saying that the BDR records are useless. BDRs average annual snowfall was less than Central Park at one point which makes zero sense outside of extreme blocking events like 09/10. I remember storms where all of long island changed to rain way before I did, measured more snow IMBY than LGA and somehow, someway Bridgeport recorded LESS snow than LGA and Central Park. Overrunning events so not situations where a north wind from a coastal enhances LI snowfall rates. I wish SW CT has a legitimate reporting station such as LGA, JFK, Central Park etc. to reference. Could there be a legitimate reason why this airport under reports by such a large amount? Maybe. One theory is that since this airport is on a peninsula in LI sound that water temps and wind blow-off could affect the totals. Sorry to vent again but so frustrating. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluewave Posted November 26, 2022 Share Posted November 26, 2022 18 minutes ago, EastonSN+ said: Thanks again. Unfortunately I can guarantee it's not an coast vs. inland issue. Lived in Norwalk (coastal town) my whole life until September 2014. BDR 100% under reports by a large margin. Not saying inland does not do better cause they do, just saying that the BDR records are useless. BDRs average annual snowfall was less than Central Park at one point which makes zero sense outside of extreme blocking events like 09/10. I remember storms where all of long island changed to rain way before I did, measured more snow IMBY than LGA and somehow, someway Bridgeport recorded LESS snow than LGA and Central Park. Overrunning events so not situations where a north wind from a coastal enhances LI snowfall rates. I wish SW CT has a legitimate reporting station such as LGA, JFK, Central Park etc. to reference. Could there be a legitimate reason why this airport under reports by such a large amount? Maybe. One theory is that since this airport is on a peninsula in LI sound that water temps and wind blow-off could affect the totals. Sorry to vent again but so frustrating. I think it’s more of a geographic location thing like you mentioned sticking out into the Long Island Sound. While the nearby success hill COOP was still recording snowfall, its snowfall was nearly identical to the airport from 2010 to 2018. Unfortunately, looks like that COOP hasn’t reported snow in several years. The difference between snowfall at both sites was only 0.4”. Monthly Total Snowfall for IGOR I SIKORSKY MEMORIAL AIRPORT, CTClick column heading to sort ascending, click again to sort descending. Year Oct Nov Dec Jan Feb Mar Apr Season Mean 0.4 1.0 6.7 14.1 15.6 7.1 0.7 45.5 2017-2018 0.0 0.0 8.7 11.4 5.3 14.5 6.0 45.9 2016-2017 T T 6.0 11.0 12.8 11.1 0.0 40.9 2015-2016 T 0.0 0.7 10.3 13.9 2.3 0.1 27.3 2014-2015 0.0 0.2 0.7 18.7 21.5 18.6 T 59.7 2013-2014 0.0 0.1 10.9 13.4 32.1 0.8 0.1 57.4 2012-2013 0.0 8.4 7.8 4.7 30.4 13.0 0.0 64.3 2011-2012 4.0 0.0 0.0 7.4 2.2 T T 13.6 2010-2011 0.0 0.4 12.0 42.0 5.0 3.2 T 62.6 2009-2010 T 0.0 13.4 7.7 16.9 0.1 T 38.1 Monthly Total Snowfall for BRIDGEPORT-SUCCESS HILL, CTClick column heading to sort ascending, click again to sort descending. Year Oct Nov Dec Jan Feb Mar Apr Season Mean 0.4 1.0 6.5 14.0 16.3 7.0 0.7 45.9 2017-2018 0.0 0.0 8.7 11.4 5.4 15.0 6.0 46.5 2016-2017 T T 6.0 8.5 17.4 11.1 0.0 43.0 2015-2016 T 0.0 0.7 10.6 14.1 2.3 0.1 27.8 2014-2015 0.0 0.2 0.7 17.5 21.5 18.7 T 58.6 2013-2014 0.0 0.1 10.9 13.6 32.1 0.4 0.5 57.6 2012-2013 0.0 8.4 7.8 4.2 30.5 12.0 0.0 62.9 2011-2012 4.0 0.0 0.0 7.5 2.2 T T 13.7 2010-2011 T 0.4 12.2 42.0 5.0 3.2 T 62.8 2009-2010 T 0.0 11.3 10.6 18.4 0.1 T 40.4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SnowGoose69 Posted November 26, 2022 Share Posted November 26, 2022 One strange aspect we are seeing yet again much as we did 7-10-12 days out from the most recent cold stretch is the Op runs of the GFS/EC are/were insanely mild and ridgey in the east relative to the ensembles...not sure why this is the case but indeed we saw this back in early November too when the ensembles showed almost an entirely 180'd pattern in the long range compared to Ops...its not unusual to see that on some runs but it was almost persistent and it is again. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EastonSN+ Posted November 26, 2022 Share Posted November 26, 2022 30 minutes ago, bluewave said: I think it’s more of a geographic location thing like you mentioned sticking out into the Long Island Sound. While the nearby success hill COOP was still recording snowfall, its snowfall was nearly identical to the airport from 2010 to 2018. Unfortunately, looks like that COOP hasn’t reported snow in several years. The difference between snowfall at both sites was only 0.4”. Monthly Total Snowfall for IGOR I SIKORSKY MEMORIAL AIRPORT, CTClick column heading to sort ascending, click again to sort descending. Year Oct Nov Dec Jan Feb Mar Apr Season Mean 0.4 1.0 6.7 14.1 15.6 7.1 0.7 45.5 2017-2018 0.0 0.0 8.7 11.4 5.3 14.5 6.0 45.9 2016-2017 T T 6.0 11.0 12.8 11.1 0.0 40.9 2015-2016 T 0.0 0.7 10.3 13.9 2.3 0.1 27.3 2014-2015 0.0 0.2 0.7 18.7 21.5 18.6 T 59.7 2013-2014 0.0 0.1 10.9 13.4 32.1 0.8 0.1 57.4 2012-2013 0.0 8.4 7.8 4.7 30.4 13.0 0.0 64.3 2011-2012 4.0 0.0 0.0 7.4 2.2 T T 13.6 2010-2011 0.0 0.4 12.0 42.0 5.0 3.2 T 62.6 2009-2010 T 0.0 13.4 7.7 16.9 0.1 T 38.1 Monthly Total Snowfall for BRIDGEPORT-SUCCESS HILL, CTClick column heading to sort ascending, click again to sort descending. Year Oct Nov Dec Jan Feb Mar Apr Season Mean 0.4 1.0 6.5 14.0 16.3 7.0 0.7 45.9 2017-2018 0.0 0.0 8.7 11.4 5.4 15.0 6.0 46.5 2016-2017 T T 6.0 8.5 17.4 11.1 0.0 43.0 2015-2016 T 0.0 0.7 10.6 14.1 2.3 0.1 27.8 2014-2015 0.0 0.2 0.7 17.5 21.5 18.7 T 58.6 2013-2014 0.0 0.1 10.9 13.6 32.1 0.4 0.5 57.6 2012-2013 0.0 8.4 7.8 4.2 30.5 12.0 0.0 62.9 2011-2012 4.0 0.0 0.0 7.5 2.2 T T 13.7 2010-2011 T 0.4 12.2 42.0 5.0 3.2 T 62.8 2009-2010 T 0.0 11.3 10.6 18.4 0.1 T 40.4 Yeah it's likely an anomaly since it is south of all CT and surrounded by water. Therefore, should be disregarded outside of trend analysis. Norwalk used to have a reporting station years ago. Hopefully a legitimate station to represent coastal SW CT accurately is opened. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluewave Posted November 26, 2022 Share Posted November 26, 2022 24 minutes ago, EastonSN+ said: Yeah it's likely an anomaly since it is south of all CT and surrounded by water. Therefore, should be disregarded outside of trend analysis. Norwalk used to have a reporting station years ago. Hopefully a legitimate station to represent coastal SW CT accurately is opened. The trend analysis is the same across the whole area. Snowfall has nearly doubled from 2002-2022 over the previous 20 years. Islip averages 38.6 “ now vs only 22.1.” from 1982-2002 .That’s why its so hard to talk averages anymore in regard to snowfall since it has been so variable since the early 1980s. Monthly Total Snowfall for ISLIP-LI MACARTHUR AP, NYClick column heading to sort ascending, click again to sort descending. Year Oct Nov Dec Jan Feb Mar Apr Season Mean 0.0 0.5 6.5 13.0 11.8 6.3 0.5 38.6 2021-2022 0.0 T 0.3 31.8 3.3 1.6 0.0 37.0 2020-2021 T 0.0 7.5 1.1 24.9 T T 33.5 2019-2020 0.0 0.1 4.2 2.5 0.0 T T 6.8 2018-2019 0.0 4.3 T 0.9 3.5 4.1 T 12.8 2017-2018 0.0 T 6.0 22.0 1.4 31.9 4.6 65.9 2016-2017 T T 3.2 14.0 14.7 7.4 T 39.3 2015-2016 0.0 0.0 T 24.8 13.2 3.2 0.2 41.4 2014-2015 0.0 T 0.4 30.2 13.4 19.7 0.0 63.7 2013-2014 0.0 0.3 8.1 25.2 24.5 5.4 0.2 63.7 2012-2013 0.0 4.2 0.6 3.3 31.4 7.4 0.0 46.9 2011-2012 0.3 0.0 T 3.8 0.6 T 0.0 4.7 2010-2011 0.0 T 14.9 34.4 3.9 2.1 T 55.3 2009-2010 0.0 0.0 25.3 6.4 21.7 0.4 0.0 53.8 2008-2009 0.0 T 10.4 8.9 3.3 13.6 T 36.2 2007-2008 0.0 0.0 2.6 0.8 7.3 T 0.0 10.7 2006-2007 0.0 T 0.0 1.0 4.2 3.8 T 9.0 2005-2006 0.0 0.5 7.6 4.7 19.9 3.2 0.1 36.0 2004-2005 0.0 T 7.0 21.5 17.0 13.3 0.0 58.8 2003-2004 0.0 0.0 15.5 19.1 1.1 5.7 0.0 41.4 2002-2003 0.0 1.0 16.0 2.6 26.3 3.7 5.0 54.6 Monthly Total Snowfall for ISLIP-LI MACARTHUR AP, NYClick column heading to sort ascending, click again to sort descending. Year Oct Nov Dec Jan Feb Mar Apr Season Mean T 0.6 3.6 6.0 6.7 4.5 0.8 22.1 2001-2002 0.0 0.0 0.0 3.7 T T 0.0 3.7 2000-2001 T 0.0 10.8 9.2 8.6 10.3 T 38.9 1999-2000 0.0 T 0.4 5.8 2.6 0.2 T 9.0 1998-1999 0.0 0.0 3.0 4.5 2.8 9.1 T 19.4 1997-1998 0.0 T 1.0 T T 1.6 T 2.6 1996-1997 0.0 T 1.2 3.3 2.2 3.7 2.0 12.4 1995-1996 0.0 3.0 13.3 20.2 19.0 12.0 9.6 77.1 1994-1995 0.0 T T T 5.1 T 0.0 5.1 1993-1994 0.0 T 3.3 8.8 20.0 5.0 0.0 37.1 1992-1993 0.0 0.0 2.1 2.3 10.9 13.3 0.0 28.6 1991-1992 0.0 0.0 2.0 2.3 1.5 7.6 T 13.4 1990-1991 0.0 0.0 4.0 3.6 4.3 1.9 0.0 13.8 1989-1990 0.0 7.6 0.2 2.0 2.0 4.2 3.0 19.0 1988-1989 0.0 0.0 10.4 4.4 1.2 3.0 T 19.0 1987-1988 0.0 1.1 4.2 10.7 0.1 3.4 0.0 19.5 1986-1987 0.0 T 3.4 8.8 8.6 1.7 0.0 22.5 1985-1986 0.0 T 2.1 2.6 10.4 0.1 T 15.2 1984-1985 0.0 T 4.7 13.5 8.7 T T 26.9 1983-1984 0.0 T 2.6 11.9 T 13.0 0.0 27.5 1982-1983 0.0 0.0 3.2 1.5 26.1 T 1.1 31.9 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rclab Posted November 26, 2022 Share Posted November 26, 2022 11 minutes ago, bluewave said: The trend analysis is the same across the whole area. Snowfall has nearly doubled from 2002-2022 over the previous 20 years. Islip averages 38.6 “ now vs only 22.1.” from 1982-2002 .That’s why its so hard to talk averages anymore in regard to snowfall since it has been so variable since the early 1980s. Monthly Total Snowfall for ISLIP-LI MACARTHUR AP, NYClick column heading to sort ascending, click again to sort descending. Year Oct Nov Dec Jan Feb Mar Apr Season Mean 0.0 0.5 6.5 13.0 11.8 6.3 0.5 38.6 2021-2022 0.0 T 0.3 31.8 3.3 1.6 0.0 37.0 2020-2021 T 0.0 7.5 1.1 24.9 T T 33.5 2019-2020 0.0 0.1 4.2 2.5 0.0 T T 6.8 2018-2019 0.0 4.3 T 0.9 3.5 4.1 T 12.8 2017-2018 0.0 T 6.0 22.0 1.4 31.9 4.6 65.9 2016-2017 T T 3.2 14.0 14.7 7.4 T 39.3 2015-2016 0.0 0.0 T 24.8 13.2 3.2 0.2 41.4 2014-2015 0.0 T 0.4 30.2 13.4 19.7 0.0 63.7 2013-2014 0.0 0.3 8.1 25.2 24.5 5.4 0.2 63.7 2012-2013 0.0 4.2 0.6 3.3 31.4 7.4 0.0 46.9 2011-2012 0.3 0.0 T 3.8 0.6 T 0.0 4.7 2010-2011 0.0 T 14.9 34.4 3.9 2.1 T 55.3 2009-2010 0.0 0.0 25.3 6.4 21.7 0.4 0.0 53.8 2008-2009 0.0 T 10.4 8.9 3.3 13.6 T 36.2 2007-2008 0.0 0.0 2.6 0.8 7.3 T 0.0 10.7 2006-2007 0.0 T 0.0 1.0 4.2 3.8 T 9.0 2005-2006 0.0 0.5 7.6 4.7 19.9 3.2 0.1 36.0 2004-2005 0.0 T 7.0 21.5 17.0 13.3 0.0 58.8 2003-2004 0.0 0.0 15.5 19.1 1.1 5.7 0.0 41.4 2002-2003 0.0 1.0 16.0 2.6 26.3 3.7 5.0 54.6 Monthly Total Snowfall for ISLIP-LI MACARTHUR AP, NYClick column heading to sort ascending, click again to sort descending. Year Oct Nov Dec Jan Feb Mar Apr Season Mean T 0.6 3.6 6.0 6.7 4.5 0.8 22.1 2001-2002 0.0 0.0 0.0 3.7 T T 0.0 3.7 2000-2001 T 0.0 10.8 9.2 8.6 10.3 T 38.9 1999-2000 0.0 T 0.4 5.8 2.6 0.2 T 9.0 1998-1999 0.0 0.0 3.0 4.5 2.8 9.1 T 19.4 1997-1998 0.0 T 1.0 T T 1.6 T 2.6 1996-1997 0.0 T 1.2 3.3 2.2 3.7 2.0 12.4 1995-1996 0.0 3.0 13.3 20.2 19.0 12.0 9.6 77.1 1994-1995 0.0 T T T 5.1 T 0.0 5.1 1993-1994 0.0 T 3.3 8.8 20.0 5.0 0.0 37.1 1992-1993 0.0 0.0 2.1 2.3 10.9 13.3 0.0 28.6 1991-1992 0.0 0.0 2.0 2.3 1.5 7.6 T 13.4 1990-1991 0.0 0.0 4.0 3.6 4.3 1.9 0.0 13.8 1989-1990 0.0 7.6 0.2 2.0 2.0 4.2 3.0 19.0 1988-1989 0.0 0.0 10.4 4.4 1.2 3.0 T 19.0 1987-1988 0.0 1.1 4.2 10.7 0.1 3.4 0.0 19.5 1986-1987 0.0 T 3.4 8.8 8.6 1.7 0.0 22.5 1985-1986 0.0 T 2.1 2.6 10.4 0.1 T 15.2 1984-1985 0.0 T 4.7 13.5 8.7 T T 26.9 1983-1984 0.0 T 2.6 11.9 T 13.0 0.0 27.5 1982-1983 0.0 0.0 3.2 1.5 26.1 T 1.1 31.9 Good morning BW. The statistics are fascinating to me. I was wondering, considering the difference in Islip snowfall over the past decades, has the number of measurable snowfall events also increased or is it the occurrence of larger not more QPF frozen events that have caused the upward change. Thank you and others for your ongoing and excellent contributions for those of us still trying to understand. As always …. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EasternLI Posted November 26, 2022 Share Posted November 26, 2022 Some entertaining runs in the arctic on the 12z gfs + gefs today again. Sweet. Keep them coming. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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dmillz25 Posted November 26, 2022 Share Posted November 26, 2022 4 minutes ago, EasternLI said: That’s sexy 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
winterwx21 Posted November 26, 2022 Share Posted November 26, 2022 It's 58 degrees here. Loving all these warm late November days! Great being able to run outside without having to be bundled up this late in the season. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stormlover74 Posted November 26, 2022 Author Share Posted November 26, 2022 26 minutes ago, winterwx21 said: It's 58 degrees here. Loving all these warm late November days! Great being able to run outside without having to be bundled up this late in the season. Hopefully it's not still 58 a month from now 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EastonSN+ Posted November 26, 2022 Share Posted November 26, 2022 39 minutes ago, EasternLI said: That could be a lot of fun! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allsnow Posted November 26, 2022 Share Posted November 26, 2022 12 minutes ago, Stormlover74 said: Hopefully it's not still 58 a month from now It will be, as it will be the day after Christmas 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the_other_guy Posted November 26, 2022 Share Posted November 26, 2022 28 minutes ago, Stormlover74 said: Hopefully it's not still 58 a month from now 48 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowman19 Posted November 26, 2022 Share Posted November 26, 2022 Paul Roundy said he believes MJO phases 5-8 will be dominant this winter 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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dmillz25 Posted November 26, 2022 Share Posted November 26, 2022 3 minutes ago, snowman19 said: Paul Roundy said he believes MJO phases 5-8 will be dominant this winter Not bad at all back and forth 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allsnow Posted November 26, 2022 Share Posted November 26, 2022 Ridiculous block on the eps 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EasternLI Posted November 26, 2022 Share Posted November 26, 2022 Just now, dmillz25 said: Not bad at all back and forth No, that's fantastic news if that plays out. Because it could have very easily just been stuck in phase 3 this year with the setup. Like qbow and La Nina likes to do. Getting into the Pacific is always tremendously better. Phase 3 is a killer on many levels. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJO812 Posted November 26, 2022 Share Posted November 26, 2022 12 minutes ago, Allsnow said: Ridiculous block on the eps NAO and AO are going to crash All aboard the cold train if the southeast ridge cooperates 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allsnow Posted November 26, 2022 Share Posted November 26, 2022 Just now, MJO812 said: NAO and AO are going to crash All aboard the cold train if the southeast ridge cooperates PAC* and that’s not looking great Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJO812 Posted November 26, 2022 Share Posted November 26, 2022 Just now, Allsnow said: PAC* and that’s not looking great It's not going to be as negative as it was last winter. A little ridge is not going to hurt . 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dmillz25 Posted November 26, 2022 Share Posted November 26, 2022 1 minute ago, Allsnow said: PAC* and that’s not looking great It’s not looking terrible. Definitely not like last year 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
forkyfork Posted November 26, 2022 Share Posted November 26, 2022 there's a west coast trough on the nyc 18" storm composite 5 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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EastonSN+ Posted November 26, 2022 Share Posted November 26, 2022 Borrowed from the Middle Atlantic forum. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
forkyfork Posted November 26, 2022 Share Posted November 26, 2022 this is the best looking december pattern since 2010 10 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dmillz25 Posted November 26, 2022 Share Posted November 26, 2022 Just now, forkyfork said: this is the best looking december pattern since 2010 Oh boy Forky has spoken 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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