yoda Posted October 9, 2022 Share Posted October 9, 2022 Yup.. too little too late Hurricane Julia Discussion Number 11 NWS National Hurricane Center Miami FL AL132022 1100 PM EDT Sat Oct 08 2022 Reports from NOAA and Air Force Reserve Hurricane Hunter aircraft indicate that Julia became a hurricane near 08/23Z. NOAA measured 700-mb flight-level winds of 73 kt and estimated surface winds of 67 kt on the SFMR, while the Air Force measured 850-mb flight-level winds of 75 kt. The central pressure fell to near 988 mb while the planes were in the cyclone. Based on these data, the initial intensity is set at 65 kt. The initial motion is still westward or 270/14 kt. Strong deep-layer ridging to the north of the hurricane should steer Julia generally westward during the next couple of days with a gradual decrease in forward speed. This motion should bring the center across the coast of Nicaragua during the next several hours, then across Nicaragua on Sunday before emerging into the Pacific late Sunday or Sunday night. After that, Julia, or its remnants, are expected to continue moving generally westward until the system dissipates. The new official forecast track is very similar to the previous track and lies close to the various consensus models. Julia has only a few more hours before landfall in Nicaragua. However, infrared and microwave satellite imagery shows that the convective structure has become much better organized, and the hurricane would likely undergo rapid intensification if it wasn't about to make landfall. While not explicitly shown in the intensity forecast, maximum sustained winds could reach 70-75 kt before landfall. A quick weakening is expected after landfall, but Julia is forecast to be at or near tropical storm strength when it emerges off the Pacific coast of Nicaragua. The intensity forecast still calls for Julia to weaken over the Pacific and dissipate after 48 h as it becomes absorbed by a broader area of low pressure associated with a Gulf of Tehuantepec gap wind event, a scenario supported by the GFS, ECMWF, and Canadian models. However, the UKMET maintains some uncertainty about this, as it shows Julia surviving and movingly slowly westward into the Pacific during the next several days. Regardless of Julia's track and existence as a tropical cyclone, the evolving weather pattern is likely to lead to heavy rains over Central America for several days, which could cause life-threatening flash floods and mudslides, especially in areas of mountainous terrain. Key Messages: 1. Julia is expected to reach the coast of Nicaragua as a hurricane within the next several hours. Hurricane-force winds and a dangerous storm surge will continue in portions of Providencia and San Andres islands during the next few hours, and are expected near the core of the hurricane when it moves onshore in Nicaragua. 2. Life-threatening flash flooding and mudslides are expected across portions of Central America this weekend. Flash flooding is possible across the Isthmus of Tehuantepec in Mexico early next week. 3. Julia is forecast to remain as a tropical storm while it moves across Central America to the adjacent Pacific waters, and tropical storm warnings are in effect along the Pacific coasts of Nicaragua, Honduras, and El Salvador to account for the possibility of tropical-storm-force winds in those areas late Sunday and Sunday night. FORECAST POSITIONS AND MAX WINDS INIT 09/0300Z 12.5N 82.7W 65 KT 75 MPH 12H 09/1200Z 12.5N 84.7W 60 KT 70 MPH...INLAND 24H 10/0000Z 12.6N 87.5W 40 KT 45 MPH...OVER WATER 36H 10/1200Z 13.0N 90.1W 35 KT 40 MPH 48H 11/0000Z 13.4N 92.8W 30 KT 35 MPH 60H 11/1200Z...DISSIPATED $$ Forecaster Beven Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Floydbuster Posted October 9, 2022 Share Posted October 9, 2022 Some huge cold cloudtop bursts. Should cause heavy rains, hopefully the fast motion keeps the mudslides limited. Here's a video update for the night owls. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HtASJZK8Ih4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GaWx Posted October 9, 2022 Share Posted October 9, 2022 4 hours ago, Floydbuster said: Some huge cold cloudtop bursts. Should cause heavy rains, hopefully the fast motion keeps the mudslides limited. Here's a video update for the night owls. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HtASJZK8Ih4 The fast motion should help quite a bit though that doesn't mean there won't still be some mudslides and perhaps some river flooding. Meanwhile, the latest UKMET again has a crossover into the E Pacific as a still intact TC, though weakening, that moves all of the way to within just a couple of hundred miles of the S tip of the Baja at 144: HURRICANE JULIA ANALYSED POSITION : 12.6N 81.8W ATCF IDENTIFIER : AL132022 LEAD CENTRAL MAXIMUM WIND VERIFYING TIME TIME POSITION PRESSURE (MB) SPEED (KNOTS) -------------- ---- -------- ------------- ------------- 0000UTC 09.10.2022 0 12.6N 81.8W 992 46 1200UTC 09.10.2022 12 12.7N 84.4W 993 35 0000UTC 10.10.2022 24 13.5N 89.2W 1000 34 1200UTC 10.10.2022 36 12.9N 90.9W 998 40 0000UTC 11.10.2022 48 13.2N 93.8W 1000 34 1200UTC 11.10.2022 60 13.1N 96.6W 1003 34 0000UTC 12.10.2022 72 14.5N 98.0W 1004 36 1200UTC 12.10.2022 84 15.0N 100.3W 1003 36 0000UTC 13.10.2022 96 15.7N 102.7W 1002 38 1200UTC 13.10.2022 108 16.0N 105.7W 1001 36 0000UTC 14.10.2022 120 16.4N 106.8W 1003 33 1200UTC 14.10.2022 132 17.2N 107.6W 1005 27 0000UTC 15.10.2022 144 18.2N 107.9W 1006 22 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hurricane Agnes Posted October 9, 2022 Share Posted October 9, 2022 Landfall at 3:15 am ET - Quote 251 WTNT63 KNHC 090715 TCUAT3 Hurricane Julia Tropical Cyclone Update NWS National Hurricane Center Miami FL AL132022 315 AM EDT Sun Oct 09 2022 ...JULIA MAKES LANDFALL IN NICARAGUA NEAR LAGUNA DE PERLAS... Satellite and Nicaraguan radar data indicate that the center of Julia has made landfall along the coast near Laguna de Perlas in Nicaragua at 315 AM EDT...0715 UTC. Maximum sustained winds at landfall were estimated to be 85 mph (140 km/h). SUMMARY OF 0315 AM EDT...0715 UTC...INFORMATION --------------------------------------------------- LOCATION...12.4N 83.6W ABOUT 30 MI...50 KM NNE OF BLUEFIELDS NICARAGUA MAXIMUM SUSTAINED WINDS...85 MPH...140 KM/H PRESENT MOVEMENT...W OR 270 DEGREES AT 16 MPH...26 KM/H MINIMUM CENTRAL PRESSURE...982 MB...29.00 INCHES $$ Forecaster Papin/Reinhart Julia has been booking it!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MANDA Posted October 9, 2022 Share Posted October 9, 2022 Intensified right up until landfall. Impressive IR satellite depiction as she moved onshore. Another 12-18 hours over water and would have been a major. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Windspeed Posted October 9, 2022 Share Posted October 9, 2022 Yeah I busted on this one big time though clearly the potential was there, the thing just took forever and a day to get the low-level structure aligned with the prolonged intense mid-level vortex / convective pulses. A lot of this was probably due to the duration of land interaction with Venezuela as the broad low was organizing. But fortunately for Nicaragua, the RMW did not tighten until just prior to landfall. Additionally, though globals were slow to intensify and suggested intensification only just prior to landfall, I lack much enthusiasm that it was due to detailed modeling of the low-level structure and land interaction, and they would have failed to show RI beyond if or if not structural issues persisted. Again, the ingredients were there, sometimes loose structure of a broad low-level envelope with multiple vorticy maximums gets in the way. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorthHillsWx Posted October 9, 2022 Share Posted October 9, 2022 10 minutes ago, Windspeed said: Yeah I busted on this one big time though clearly the potential was there, the thing just took forever and a day to get the low-level structure aligned with the prolonged intense mid-level vortex / convective pulses. A lot of this was probably due to the duration of land interaction with Venezuela as the broad low was organizing. But fortunately for Nicaragua, the RMW did not tighten until just prior to landfall. Additionally, though globals were slow to intensify and suggested intensification only just prior to landfall, I lack much enthusiasm that it was due to detailed modeling of the low-level structure and land interaction, and they would have failed to show RI beyond if or if not structural issues persisted. Again, the ingredients were there, sometimes loose structure of a broad low-level envelope with multiple vorticy maximums gets in the way. 12 more hours and this thing would’ve been a major or dang close to it. Agreed with your discussion Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Normandy Posted October 9, 2022 Share Posted October 9, 2022 Think there could be a case for a post season upgrade in landfall intensity. If we got legit 75mph sustained on land in the south eyewall, landfall intensity is likely a little more than 75 knots. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iceresistance Posted October 9, 2022 Author Share Posted October 9, 2022 EPAC Crossover #2 is likely, we've had 2 years with 2 separate ATL-EPAC crossovers before with 1988 and 1996, but only one managed to have TS Force Winds, this might be the first year to feature two crossovers with at least TS force winds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iceresistance Posted October 9, 2022 Author Share Posted October 9, 2022 Thanks for updating it for me. @Scott747 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GaWx Posted October 9, 2022 Share Posted October 9, 2022 12Z UKMET: doesn't have crossover survival as it falls apart near El Salvador only to reform two days later over water and later get close to Baja as of the end of the text shown below at 144. Per another source which goes out 168 hours, it then hits Baja later on Saturday followed by the moisture moving into the SW US a week from today! TROPICAL STORM JULIA ANALYSED POSITION : 12.4N 84.4W ATCF IDENTIFIER : AL132022 LEAD CENTRAL MAXIMUM WIND VERIFYING TIME TIME POSITION PRESSURE (MB) SPEED (KNOTS) -------------- ---- -------- ------------- ------------- 1200UTC 09.10.2022 0 12.4N 84.4W 991 40 0000UTC 10.10.2022 12 12.9N 87.5W 998 41 1200UTC 10.10.2022 24 13.4N 90.0W 1001 36 0000UTC 11.10.2022 36 CEASED TRACKING NEW TROPICAL CYCLONE FORECAST TO DEVELOP AFTER 78 HOURS FORECAST POSITION AT T+ 78 : 15.0N 101.4W LEAD CENTRAL MAXIMUM WIND VERIFYING TIME TIME POSITION PRESSURE (MB) SPEED (KNOTS) -------------- ---- -------- ------------- ------------- 0000UTC 13.10.2022 84 15.6N 102.4W 1007 30 1200UTC 13.10.2022 96 16.0N 104.8W 1006 29 0000UTC 14.10.2022 108 16.0N 107.2W 1005 29 1200UTC 14.10.2022 120 16.7N 107.9W 1006 28 0000UTC 15.10.2022 132 18.2N 108.7W 1006 25 1200UTC 15.10.2022 144 20.3N 109.0W 1009 20 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iceresistance Posted October 9, 2022 Author Share Posted October 9, 2022 Now officially in the EPAC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hurricane Agnes Posted October 10, 2022 Share Posted October 10, 2022 Down to a Tropical Depression - Quote 000 AXPZ20 KNHC 101541 TWDEP Tropical Weather Discussion NWS National Hurricane Center Miami FL 1605 UTC Mon Oct 10 2022 Tropical Weather Discussion for the eastern Pacific Ocean from 03.4S to 30N, east of 120W including the Gulf of California, and from the Equator to 30N, between 120W and 140W. The following information is based on satellite imagery, weather observations, radar, and meteorological analysis. Based on 1200 UTC surface analysis and satellite imagery through 1500 UTC. ...SPECIAL FEATURES... Tropical Storm Julia was downgraded to a Tropical Depression over southern Guatemala at 1500 UTC. At this time, it is centered near 14.1N 90.3W at 10/1500 UTC moving WNW at 13 kt. Estimated minimum central pressure is 1003 mb. Maximum sustained wind speed is 30 kt with gusts to 40 kt. Numerous moderate to isolated strong convection is noted from 11N to 15N between 89W and 93W, including over portions of El Salvador and southern Guatemala. On the forecast track, the center of Julia will move over southern Guatemala today. Julia is forecast to dissipate this evening. Its remnants are expected to continue westward and could contribute to the formation of a new area of low pressure just south of the coast of southern Mexico in another day or two. Some subsequent gradual development of the new system will be possible while it moves generally westward to west-northwestward near the coast of Mexico through the end of the week. Heavy rainfall will continue to impact Central America and the Isthmus of Tehuantepec in Mexico through Tue. This rainfall may cause life-threatening flash floods and mudslides. Please read the latest High Seas Forecast issued by National Hurricane Center at website https://www.nhc.noaa.gov/text/MIAHSFEP2.shtml and the latest Julia NHC Forecast/Advisory and Public Advisory at www.hurricanes.gov for more details. Gulf of Tehuantepec Gale Warning: A ridge over the eastern slopes of the Sierra Madre mountains in Mexico continues to support gale force northerly winds across the Tehuantepec region. Gale force winds of 35 kt are expected to persist downwind of the Gulf to about 14N through this afternoon, with seas to 14 ft. Strong to near gale force N winds will then continue through tonight. Winds will diminish to fresh to locally strong Tue, with improving conditions Tue night as the pressure gradient relaxes. Please read the latest NHC High Seas Forecast issued by the National Hurricane Center at website https://www.nhc.noaa.gov/text/MIAHSFEP2.shtml for further details. ...INTERTROPICAL CONVERGENCE ZONE/MONSOON TROUGH... The monsoon trough extends from 10N98W to 13N122W to 09N140W. Scattered moderate to isolated strong convection is noted from 08N to 11N between 95W and 100W, from 10N to 17N between 115W and 130W, and from 07N to 10N between 130W and 140W. OFFSHORE WATERS WITHIN 250 NM OF MEXICO... Please refer to the Special Features section for details on a gale force gap wind event in the Gulf of Tehuantepec and on T.D. Julia, located over southern Guatemala. A ridge dominates the offshore forecast waters west of Baja California producing moderate NW winds. Seas are in the 4 to 6 ft range. Light to gentle winds are noted in the northern Gulf of California, except for moderate northerly winds in the southern part of the Gulf. Seas of 1-3 ft prevail across the Gulf of California, with the exception of 3-5 ft near the entrance of the Gulf. Near Cabo Corrientes, moderate to fresh NW to N winds are likely occurring. Elsewhere along the coast of Mexico outside of the Tehuantepec region, gentle to moderate NW winds prevail, with seas of 4-6 ft in SW swell. For the forecast, gentle to moderate NW to N winds will continue to dominate the offshore forecast waters of Baja California through mid-week under the influence of a ridge, increasing to moderate to fresh Wed night through Thu night. Gentle winds are expected in the Gulf of California with the exception of moderate NW winds across the southern part of the Gulf through mid-week. Looking ahead, a new area of low pressure, associated with the remnant low of Julia, could form just south of the coast of southern Mexico in another day or two. Some subsequent gradual development of the new system will be possible while it moves generally westward to west- northwestward near the coast of Mexico through the end of the week. OFFSHORE WATERS WITHIN 250 NM OF CENTRAL AMERICA, COLOMBIA, AND WITHIN 750 NM OF ECUADOR... Please refer to the Special Features section for details on Tropical Depression Julia located over southern Guatemala. Fresh to strong sw to W winds and high seas up to 10 ft associated with Julia are currently affecting the offshore waters of El Salvador and SE Guatemala. Moderate to fresh southerly winds and seas of 7-9 ft are noted across the offshore waters of Nicaragua. Gentle to moderate winds and seas of 5-7 ft prevail offshore of Costa Rica. Gentle winds prevail elsewhere, off Panama and South America, where seas are 5-6 ft in SW swell. For the forecast, Julia will become a remnant low and move to 15.2N 92.0W this evening, and dissipate Tue morning. Seas will gradually subside across the offshore waters of Nicaragua today. Seas of 8-10 ft will then continue over the waters offshore Guatemala and El Salvador through Tue before subsiding Tue night into Wed. REMAINDER OF THE AREA... High pressure well N of the area extends a ridge across the northern forecast waters. A surface trough extends from 23N129W to 14N123W. Moderate to fresh S to SW winds are noted south of the monsoon trough between 90W and 110W, along with seas of 6-7 ft. Moderate or weaker winds and seas of 5-7 ft prevail in the remaining waters. For the forecast, a ridge will continue to dominate the N waters through at least mid-week with little change in winds and seas. $$ GR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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