GaWx Posted October 7, 2022 Share Posted October 7, 2022 The 12Z UKMET has Julia remain a TC into the E Pacific moving WNW paralleling MX 100-150 miles offshore for several days. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GaWx Posted October 7, 2022 Share Posted October 7, 2022 The 12Z Euro after E Nicaragua landfall barely takes the remnants of Julia into the far E Pacific before then taking much of its remaining vorticity northward up into the Gulf followed by a turn ENE across N FL followed by a turn NE all of the way up the US east coast. Wild path! Edit: The 12Z EPS has ~10% of its members do something kind of in a similar way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Windspeed Posted October 7, 2022 Share Posted October 7, 2022 Missfired into the seasonal thread. Shear vector is pivoting easterly. New strong convection should now wrap the LLC. At any rate, BOOOM!!! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NavarreDon Posted October 7, 2022 Share Posted October 7, 2022 Missfired into the seasonal thread. Shear vector is pivoting easterly. New strong convection should now wrap the LLC. At any rate, BOOOM!!!Definitely the healthiest I’ve seen her. Will be curious to see what recon finds. . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
olafminesaw Posted October 7, 2022 Share Posted October 7, 2022 Convection go boom 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Windspeed Posted October 8, 2022 Share Posted October 8, 2022 Boy how things can rapidly change. Unfortunately, Julia is going to be an intense hurricane before it reaches Nicaragua. Two major changes: 1) Recon has found that the LLC has relocated under the very dense/deep -80°C formative CDO. 2) The mid-level circulation is now stacking with a slight tilt, but shear has abated significantly in the past 9 hours. With these developments and the quickly organizing core, I fully expect Julia to become a major hurricane, and perhaps even peaking at Category 4 prior to landfall. Too much time left over 29-30°C SSTs and fast enough motion to get the most out of available OHC. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Windspeed Posted October 8, 2022 Share Posted October 8, 2022 Recon is funky. It's as if the LLC is repositioning again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Floydbuster Posted October 8, 2022 Share Posted October 8, 2022 1 hour ago, Windspeed said: Recon is funky. It's as if the LLC is repositioning again. I know, right? Looking at satellite I'd say this is approaching hurricane intensity. Recon says it's discombobulated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yoda Posted October 8, 2022 Share Posted October 8, 2022 60mph TS at 2am Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yoda Posted October 8, 2022 Share Posted October 8, 2022 3 hours ago, yoda said: 60mph TS at 2am still 60mph at 5am Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yoda Posted October 8, 2022 Share Posted October 8, 2022 Tropical Storm Julia Discussion Number 8 NWS National Hurricane Center Miami FL AL132022 500 AM EDT Sat Oct 08 2022 Julia is a strengthening tropical cyclone. Satellite imagery has shown an increase in persistent and deep convection occurring over the center, with an expanding area of cloud top temperatures colder than -80 deg C. Overnight data from the Air Force Hurricane Hunters indicated the vertical structure of Julia is still organizing, with evidence of multiple low-level centers noted in the 850-mb flight level wind data. But, the aircraft reported flight-level winds of 59 kt and believable SFMR retrievals of 45-50 kt on its last pass through the northeastern quadrant of the cyclone. Based on these data, the initial intensity is set at 50 kt for this advisory. Weak deep-layer shear, abundant mid-level moisture, and SSTs around 29.5 degrees Celsius appear conducive for steady to rapid intensification of Julia during the next 24 h as it approaches Central America. In fact, the SHIPS Rapid Intensification Index shows a 63 percent chance of a 30 kt increase in intensity during the next 24 h. Given the strengthening noted tonight and the improved satellite structure, the NHC forecast calls for Julia to rapidly intensify into a hurricane later today and continue strengthening through landfall on Sunday. This forecast lies between the multi-model consensus aids and the stronger SHIPS and LGEM guidance. After landfall, the cyclone is forecast to weaken as it moves across the terrain of Central America. The estimated initial motion is westward at 265/16 kt. Julia is expected to continue moving quickly westward for the next day or so along the southern periphery of a strong mid-level ridge to its north. This motion should bring the center of Julia near San Andres and Providencia Islands this evening and over the coast of Nicaragua within the warning area early Sunday. Based on a southward shift in the track guidance, the NHC forecast has been adjusted in that direction to bring it closer to the multi-model consensus. As a result, the government of Nicaragua has extended Hurricane and Tropical Storm Warnings southward along the coast. There is still above average uncertainty regarding the future of Julia after landfall. While some models (HWRF, HMON, GFS) show the center largely remaining over land and dissipating, others (ECMWF and UKMET) show low-level vorticity associated with Julia or its remnants emerging over the eastern Pacific waters early next week. While it appears unlikely that the surface circulation would survive the topography of Nicaragua, this scenario could become more likely if there are additional southward adjustments to the track. For now, the NHC forecast shows weakening and dissipation by 72 h near the coast of Central America, but interests along the Pacific coasts of El Salvador, Honduras, and Nicaragua should monitor forecast updates. Regardless, the set up is likely to lead to heavy rains over Central America for several days, which could cause life-threatening flash floods and mudslides, especially in areas of mountainous terrain. Key Messages: 1. Julia is forecast to strengthen into a hurricane later today, and a Hurricane Warning is in effect for portions of the Nicaragua coast and the islands of Providencia and San Andres. Hurricane-force winds and a dangerous storm surge are expected in areas where the core of the system crosses the islands tonight and moves onshore in Nicaragua on Sunday. 2. Life-threatening flash flooding and mudslides are expected across portions of Central America this weekend. Flash flooding is possible across the Isthmus of Tehuantepec in Mexico early next week. FORECAST POSITIONS AND MAX WINDS INIT 08/0900Z 12.7N 78.0W 50 KT 60 MPH 12H 08/1800Z 12.6N 80.4W 65 KT 75 MPH 24H 09/0600Z 12.5N 82.9W 80 KT 90 MPH 36H 09/1800Z 12.7N 85.2W 50 KT 60 MPH...INLAND 48H 10/0600Z 13.2N 87.8W 35 KT 40 MPH...NEAR THE COAST 60H 10/1800Z 13.8N 89.9W 30 KT 35 MPH...POST-TROP/INLAND 72H 11/0600Z...DISSIPATED $$ Forecaster Reinhart Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MANDA Posted October 8, 2022 Share Posted October 8, 2022 Julia looking impressive on latest satellite images. Thankfully time over water is limited to less than 24 hours. Has satellite signature of rapidly organizing hurricane. Time will run out before things get too out of hand. Nice dust cloud has come off Africa. After Julia looks quiet for 7-10 days. Will be get something lifting out of Caribbean later in the month? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Windspeed Posted October 8, 2022 Share Posted October 8, 2022 Still expecting Julia to rapidly intensify today. Despite its initial structural issues at the surface, I do not think it will take long for intensity to ramp up quickly once the eyewall is established. There are hints of this on radar. Again, sure, time is limited over water, but it may have just enough time to peak at a high intensity prior to any first ERC. I think Julia landfalls as a major and depending on how rapidly, even a Cat 4 is still possible once rapid intensification is underway. I think we tend to be conservative and for good measure, as intensity forecasting remains difficult. But ventilation is certainly good enough to get the job done despite 10 kts of shear. I'm going to call 105-110 kts into the Nicaraguan coastline in the early AM hours of Sunday. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Floydbuster Posted October 8, 2022 Share Posted October 8, 2022 Beautiful anti-cyclone right over the top of Julia. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yoda Posted October 8, 2022 Share Posted October 8, 2022 65mph/994mb at 11am Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yoda Posted October 8, 2022 Share Posted October 8, 2022 Tropical Storm Julia Discussion Number 9 NWS National Hurricane Center Miami FL AL132022 1100 AM EDT Sat Oct 08 2022 Air Force Reserve reconnaissance data indicate that Julia is not a vertically stacked tropical cyclone. The plane first made an initial center fix to the north of the main area of deep convection and found that the central pressure had fallen to 994 mb. About an hour later, a second center fix was made three tenths of a degree farther south near the deep convection, although the lowest pressure there was only about 998 mb. The center has been placed in between the two fixes, hedging toward the lower pressure to the north. Julia's initial intensity is set at 55 kt based on the lowering of the central pressure and unanimous satellite classifications of T3.5. So far, the aircraft has measured peak 850-mb flight-level winds of 50 kt and reliable SFMR winds around 45 kt, so it's assumed the plane has not directly sampled the area of highest winds. Despite the uncertainty in Julia's initial position, it's clear that the storm continues to move quickly westward with an estimated motion of 270/18 kt. With strong ridging to the north, a continued fast westward trajectory is expected during the next couple of days, which should bring Julia's center inland over Nicaragua by early Sunday morning. If Julia's center survives the passage over Central America, it could move just offshore of or along the Pacific coasts of Nicaragua, Honduras, and El Salvador Sunday night and Monday. It still appears that there is about 15 kt of northwesterly or northerly shear affecting Julia, but model guidance indicates this should abate and then turn out of the east-northeast later today and tonight. Therefore, further strengthening is anticipated, and Julia is forecast to become a hurricane later today. It's important to keep in mind that Julia could have a higher intensity when it reaches the coast of Nicaragua than what is explicitly shown, since in this forecast landfall would occur between the 12- and 24-hour forecast times. In fact, SHIPS guidance suggests the intensity could be in the 75-80 kt range at 18 hours, which mirrors what was shown in the previous NHC forecast. Due to Julia's more southern and faster track, there is increasing global model support that the cyclone will be able to maintain a well-defined center and circulation while it crosses Central America, and it could also still be at tropical storm intensity when it reaches the Pacific side of Central America. However, even if it survives the crossing, most of the guidance shows the circulation becoming more diffuse or dissipating over the Pacific waters in 2 to 3 days. Based on the updated NHC forecast, and to account for the possibility of tropical-storm-force winds along the Pacific coast of Central America, tropical storm warnings and watches have been issued for the Pacific coasts of Nicaragua, Honduras, and El Salvador. Regardless of Julia's track and existence as a tropical cyclone, the evolving set up is likely to lead to heavy rains over Central America for several days, which could cause life-threatening flash floods and mudslides, especially in areas of mountainous terrain. Key Messages: 1. Julia is forecast to strengthen into a hurricane later today, and a Hurricane Warning is in effect for portions of the Nicaragua coast and the islands of Providencia and San Andres. Hurricane-force winds and a dangerous storm surge are expected in areas where the core of the system crosses the islands later today and moves onshore in Nicaragua early Sunday morning. 2. Life-threatening flash flooding and mudslides are expected across portions of Central America this weekend. Flash flooding is possible across the Isthmus of Tehuantepec in Mexico early next week. 3. There is an increasing chance that Julia could remain as a tropical storm while it moves across Central America, and tropical storm warnings and watches have been issued along the Pacific coasts of Nicaragua, Honduras, and El Salvador to account for the possibility of tropical-storm-force winds in those areas late Sunday and Monday. FORECAST POSITIONS AND MAX WINDS INIT 08/1500Z 12.6N 79.9W 55 KT 65 MPH 12H 09/0000Z 12.5N 81.9W 70 KT 80 MPH 24H 09/1200Z 12.5N 84.3W 65 KT 75 MPH...INLAND 36H 10/0000Z 12.7N 86.9W 40 KT 45 MPH...INLAND 48H 10/1200Z 13.2N 89.5W 30 KT 35 MPH...OVER WATER 60H 11/0000Z 13.7N 91.9W 25 KT 30 MPH...POST-TROP/REMNT LOW 72H 11/1200Z...DISSIPATED $$ Forecaster Berg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
olafminesaw Posted October 8, 2022 Share Posted October 8, 2022 Looks like the core starting to organize, but may be a while before we see anything like an eyewall Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hawkeye_wx Posted October 8, 2022 Share Posted October 8, 2022 Yeah, it's trying to form a CDO, but convection continues to be pushed south as it attempts to wrap around to the north side. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iceresistance Posted October 8, 2022 Author Share Posted October 8, 2022 Northerly Wind Shear is limiting Julia from being stronger, likely a good thing for Central America barring any unexpected organization. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Windspeed Posted October 8, 2022 Share Posted October 8, 2022 Northerly Wind Shear is limiting Julia from being stronger, likely a good thing for Central America barring any unexpected organization. Seems to be the case. Shear is just being too much of a deterrent for allowing Julia to resolve surface structural issues. Gonna bust hard on this one it seems. Would need RI to be occurring now. Starting to look unlikely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gymengineer Posted October 8, 2022 Share Posted October 8, 2022 The global models have been pretty unanimous for the past day or so that Julia would only appreciably strengthen in the window right before landfall. For multiple runs, they’ve been showing steady state until around 8 pm tonight. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yoda Posted October 8, 2022 Share Posted October 8, 2022 still a TS at 5... 70mph/992mb Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
olafminesaw Posted October 8, 2022 Share Posted October 8, 2022 Finally wrapping convection around the center. Should be off to the races 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yoda Posted October 8, 2022 Share Posted October 8, 2022 ^ Yeah, but its should be making landfall in several hours... took too long to get going 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattPetrulli Posted October 8, 2022 Share Posted October 8, 2022 Seems like NHC satellite estimates were very close if not right on the money 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hurricane Agnes Posted October 8, 2022 Share Posted October 8, 2022 Julia just upgraded to a Hurricane with the 7 pm update - Quote 000 WTNT63 KNHC 082300 TCUAT3 Hurricane Julia Tropical Cyclone Update NWS National Hurricane Center Miami FL AL132022 700 PM EDT Sat Oct 08 2022 ...JULIA BECOMES A HURRICANE... Reports from NOAA and Air Force Reserve Hurricane Hunter aircraft indicate that Julia has become a hurricane with 75 mph (120 km/h) maximum sustained winds as it passes near San Andres and Providencia Islands. SUMMARY OF 700 PM EDT...2300 UTC...INFORMATION --------------------------------------------------- LOCATION...12.5N 81.7W ABOUT 10 MI...15 KM S OF SAN ANDRES ISLAND COLOMBIA ABOUT 140 MI...225 KM E OF BLUEFIELDS NICARAGUA MAXIMUM SUSTAINED WINDS...75 MPH...120 KM/H PRESENT MOVEMENT...W OR 270 DEGREES AT 17 MPH...28 KM/H MINIMUM CENTRAL PRESSURE...990 MB...29.23 INCHES $$ Forecaster Beven Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
olafminesaw Posted October 9, 2022 Share Posted October 9, 2022 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hawkeye_wx Posted October 9, 2022 Share Posted October 9, 2022 Julia is getting that ready-to-take-off comma-shaped core this evening, but it's nearly out of time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yoda Posted October 9, 2022 Share Posted October 9, 2022 Barely a Cat 1 hurricane at 11pm... 75mph/988mb Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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