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Morning thoughts…

Today will cloudy, breezy, and unseasonably cool. There will be periods of rain. The heaviest rain will likely affect southern New Jersey, including Atlantic City, which received a daily record 3.01” yesterday. High temperatures will reach the middle and upper 50s in most of the region. Likely high temperatures around the region include:

New York City (Central Park): 57°

Newark: 58°

Philadelphia: 56°

The cool weather will persist until the middle of the week before a brief period of warmer readings arrives.

Normals:

New York City: 30-Year: 69.4°; 15-Year: 70.7°

Newark: 30-Year: 71.0°; 15-Year: 72.5°

Philadelphia: 30-Year: 72.2°; 15-Year: 73.5°

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This feels more like an October El Niño +PDO pattern with the cooler +PNA and heaviest rains in the Midatlantic. The near record warm +NPM must be overriding the La Niña. So this could make for an interesting winter forecast if the La Niña influence stays muted.


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October El Niño composite


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3 hours ago, SRRTA22 said:

I never liked October nor'easters/cool shots in terms of what winter could bring...

To me this indicates we're about to have a warm *** nov-december before we get whopped by a huge storm.

Big storm front end of winter followed by mush is what I'm thinking 

But I'll tell you what..forget what Forky is saying , 

This really is the "seasons of yesteryear" and I think @Volcanic Wintergot it right...that water vapor injection into the stratosphere is playing a major role 

 

There's a number of winters that fit this category, but there's a number that go the other way too.  There's really just no way to tell.

One thing we seem to have gotten rid of is what we had for most of the twentieth century, which is cold October, followed by mild November, followed by cold/snowy winters. 

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8 minutes ago, jm1220 said:

Good for NJ but pretty lame how the rain just disintegrates as it comes near LI. Hopefully that can change at least a little as the new coastal low gets going. 

The HRRR which was correctly south  with much of the rain last few days is wetter for Tuesday as the lower dewpoints and confluence relax a bit.

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6 minutes ago, bluewave said:

The HRRR which was correctly south  with much of the rain last few days is wetter for Tuesday as the lower dewpoints and confluence relax a bit.

I don't get this desire for flooding rains, it's already rained plenty the last couple of days.  And it's not completely dry right now, the roads are wet down here and it's too cold for early October.

Floods don't bust droughts, they just create run off, which is useless and destructive.  It takes several months for droughts to end (not that this one is such a bad drought anyway.)

 

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15 minutes ago, LibertyBell said:

I don't get this desire for flooding rains, it's already rained plenty the last couple of days.  And it's not completely dry right now, the roads are wet down here and it's too cold for early October.

Floods don't bust droughts, they just create run off, which is useless and destructive.  It takes several months for droughts to end (not that this one is such a bad drought anyway.)

 

This was the worst warm season drought from June to September at JFK since the 1960s. But it’s only 4 months long instead of years long like back then. That’s why there have been no serious water shortages just dry conditions for gardening interests.

 

Time Series Summary for JFK INTERNATIONAL AIRPORT, NY
Click column heading to sort ascending, click again to sort descending.
Rank
Ending Date
Total Precipitation Jun 1 to Sep 30
Missing Count
1 1965-09-30 6.64 0
2 2022-09-30 7.05 0
3 1970-09-30 7.76 0
4 1948-09-30 8.44 46
5 1951-09-30 8.57 0
6 1957-09-30 8.72 0
7 1980-09-30 9.67 0
8 1995-09-30 9.74 0
9 2005-09-30 10.03 0
10 1998-09-30 10.12 0
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1 hour ago, Big Jims Videos said:

Parts of Forked River Ocean County showing up now on radar with 6 inches of rain totals. 

Getting pummeled here in Barnegat.  Coastal flooding is our biggest concern right now.  Thank God this is occurring with half moon near tides.  Much stronger and prolonged event than initially anticipated.  

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2 minutes ago, dseagull said:

Getting pummeled here in Barnegat.  Coastal flooding is our biggest concern right now.  Thank God this is occurring with half moon near tides.  Much stronger and prolonged event than initially anticipated.  

Looks like 2-3 inches more of rain down by your location yet to come. Models started picking up on this prolonged storm at the end of last week but I agree, it has definitely been more impactful then originally forecasted 

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8 minutes ago, dseagull said:

Getting pummeled here in Barnegat.  Coastal flooding is our biggest concern right now.  Thank God this is occurring with half moon near tides.  Much stronger and prolonged event than initially anticipated.  

Yup. If it was a full moon add on another 8-10 inches of storm tide.  That would have put many places into major. This is bad though.  Beach erosion is significant here in Bay Head where I am covering this.  

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40 minutes ago, bluewave said:

This was the worst warm season drought from June to September at JFK since the 1960s. But it’s only 4 months long instead of years long like back then. That’s why there have been no serious water shortages just dry conditions for gardening interests.

 

Time Series Summary for JFK INTERNATIONAL AIRPORT, NY
Click column heading to sort ascending, click again to sort descending.
Rank
Ending Date
Total Precipitation Jun 1 to Sep 30
Missing Count
1 1965-09-30 6.64 0
2 2022-09-30 7.05 0
3 1970-09-30 7.76 0
4 1948-09-30 8.44 46
5 1951-09-30 8.57 0
6 1957-09-30 8.72 0
7 1980-09-30 9.67 0
8 1995-09-30 9.74 0
9 2005-09-30 10.03 0
10 1998-09-30 10.12 0

I remember 1995 quite clearly, that one was awful and led to the wildfires.  No measurable precip in August until a weird southward moving front reached us the night before September started! 

Where does the couplet of June-July 1999 rank, having two months in a row of around half an inch of rain is historic.  What about the entire met summer of JJA 1999? I remember we didn't bust the drought until Floyd hit here (right around my birthday on the 15th!)

 

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The next 8 days are averaging  59*(51/67) or -3.

Reached 60 early yesterday---PM was mostly low 50's.

Today:  54-58, wind ne.-breezy, cloudy, Rain after 5pm, 50 tomorrow AM.

EURO with 3.5" by Wed. PM, other models are under 1".

51*(71%RH) here at 7am.     Basically 50-51 all day---50* at 5pm.     49*  8pm-11pm.

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