KoalaBeer Posted September 28, 2022 Share Posted September 28, 2022 18 minutes ago, Amped said: A good analog would be Katrina/Camille both took very similar tracks and had some different impacts due to the size difference. Huh? At least Camille went over western Cuba but the track similarities end there. Not many good analogs to go off of here in modern record keeping. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amped Posted September 28, 2022 Share Posted September 28, 2022 15 minutes ago, KoalaBeer said: Huh? At least Camille went over western Cuba but the track similarities end there. Not many good analogs to go off of here in modern record keeping. In LA and MS where they made landfall it was a pretty similar track. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blizz Posted September 28, 2022 Share Posted September 28, 2022 5 minutes ago, Amped said: In LA and MS where they made landfall it was a pretty similar track. Right, but Charley actually made landfall in FL... where Ian is about to do. lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amped Posted September 28, 2022 Share Posted September 28, 2022 Extrap down to 942 SFMR around 107kt, that's on the NW side of the eye. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WxSynopsisDavid Posted September 28, 2022 Share Posted September 28, 2022 12 minutes ago, Amped said: Extrap down to 942 SFMR around 107kt, that's on the NW side of the eye. Curious as to what they find Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hlcater Posted September 28, 2022 Share Posted September 28, 2022 FL winds exceeding 140kts in the NE quad. SFMRs of 110kts. Pressures ~942. Probably see an upgrade to cat 4 here on the 5am update. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WxSynopsisDavid Posted September 28, 2022 Share Posted September 28, 2022 Ian is now a Category 4, dataset supports it. Also, Ian is an intensifying Category 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thunderbolt Posted September 28, 2022 Share Posted September 28, 2022 24 minutes ago, Amped said: Extrap down to 942 SFMR around 107kt, that's on the NW side of the eye. 939 mb 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turtlehurricane Posted September 28, 2022 Share Posted September 28, 2022 Torrential storms are beginning to train along SE FL metro areas. Spiral band and coastal frictional convergence are combining to form a mega-band. Ground is already completely saturated and flooding before this. This band could quickly result in damaging flash floods. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amped Posted September 28, 2022 Share Posted September 28, 2022 Environmental pressure is running a bit high, so this is getting close to Hugo. A major at landfall looking likely at this point, unless it stalls just offshore while shear eats it alive. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WxSynopsisDavid Posted September 28, 2022 Share Posted September 28, 2022 1 minute ago, Amped said: Environmental pressure is running a bit high, so this is getting close to Hugo. A major at landfall looking likely at this point, unless it stalls just offshore while shear eats it alive. It’s also now over a branch of the loop current which is also aiding the RI we are seeing….along with friction and angle of approach. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HillsdaleMIWeather Posted September 28, 2022 Share Posted September 28, 2022 Officially a Category 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LakeEffectKing Posted September 28, 2022 Share Posted September 28, 2022 000 WTNT34 KNHC 280856 TCPAT4 BULLETIN Hurricane Ian Advisory Number 22 NWS National Hurricane Center Miami FL AL092022 500 AM EDT Wed Sep 28 2022 ...AIR FORCE HURRICANE HUNTERS FIND IAN HAS STRENGTHENED INTO AN EXTREMELY DANGEROUS CATEGORY 4 HURRICANE... ...EXPECTED TO CAUSE LIFE-THREATENING STORM SURGE, CATASTROPHIC WINDS AND FLOODING IN THE FLORIDA PENINSULA... SUMMARY OF 500 AM EDT...0900 UTC...INFORMATION ---------------------------------------------- LOCATION...25.6N 82.9W ABOUT 75 MI...125 KM WSW OF NAPLES FLORIDA ABOUT 105 MI...165 KM SSW OF PUNTA GORDA FLORIDA MAXIMUM SUSTAINED WINDS...140 MPH...220 KM/H PRESENT MOVEMENT...NNE OR 15 DEGREES AT 10 MPH...17 KM/H MINIMUM CENTRAL PRESSURE...942 MB...27.82 INCHES WATCHES AND WARNINGS -------------------- CHANGES WITH THIS ADVISORY: None SUMMARY OF WATCHES AND WARNINGS IN EFFECT: A Hurricane Warning is in effect for... * Chokoloskee to Anclote River, including Tampa Bay * Dry Tortugas A Storm Surge Warning is in effect for... * Suwannee River southward to Flamingo * Tampa Bay * Lower Florida Keys from Big Pine Key westward to Key West * Dry Tortugas * Flagler/Volusia Line to the mouth of the St. Mary's River * St. Johns River A Tropical Storm Warning is in effect for... * Cuban provinces of La Habana, Mayabeque, and Matanzas * Indian Pass to the Anclote River * All of the Florida Keys * Flamingo to South Santee River * Flamingo to Chokoloskee * Lake Okeechobee * Florida Bay * Bimini and Grand Bahama Islands A Storm Surge Watch is in effect for... * Florida Keys from the Card Sound Bridge westward to east of Big Pine Key * Florida Bay * Mouth of St. Mary's River to South Santee River A Storm Surge Warning means there is a danger of life-threatening inundation, from rising water moving inland from the coastline, in the indicated locations. For a depiction of areas at risk, please see the National Weather Service Storm Surge Watch/Warning Graphic, available at hurricanes.gov. This is a life-threatening situation. Persons located within these areas should take all necessary actions to protect life and property from rising water and the potential for other dangerous conditions. Promptly follow evacuation and other instructions from local officials. A Hurricane Warning means that hurricane conditions are expected somewhere within the warning area. Preparations to protect life and property should be rushed to completion. A Tropical Storm Warning means that tropical storm conditions are expected somewhere within the warning area. A Storm Surge Watch means there is a possibility of life- threatening inundation, from rising water moving inland from the coastline, in the indicated locations during the next 48 hours. For storm information specific to your area, please monitor products issued by your national meteorological service. DISCUSSION AND OUTLOOK ---------------------- At 500 AM EDT (0900 UTC), the center of Hurricane Ian was located near latitude 25.6 North, longitude 82.9 West. Ian is moving toward the north-northeast near 10 mph (17 km/h). This general motion with a reduction in forward speed is forecast today, followed by a turn toward the north on Thursday. On the forecast track, the center of Ian is expected to approach the west coast of Florida within the hurricane warning area this morning, and move onshore later today. The center of Ian is forecast to move over central Florida tonight and Thursday morning and emerge over the western Atlantic by late Thursday. Very recent data from an Air Force Reserve Hurricane Hunter aircraft indicate that the maximum sustained winds have increased to near 140 mph (220 km/h) with higher gusts. Ian is a category 4 hurricane on the Saffir-Simpson Hurricane Wind Scale. Some fluctuations in intensity are possible before Ian reaches the coast of Florida. Ian is forecast to approach the west coast of Florida as an extremely dangerous major hurricane. Weakening is expected after landfall. Hurricane-force winds extend outward up to 40 miles (65 km) from the center and tropical-storm-force winds extend outward up to 175 miles (280 km). The estimated minimum central pressure is 942 mb (27.82 inches). HAZARDS AFFECTING LAND ---------------------- Key messages for Ian can be found in the Tropical Cyclone Discussion under AWIPS header MIATCDAT4 and WMO header WTNT44 KNHC and on the web at hurricanes.gov/text/MIATCDAT4.shtml. STORM SURGE: The combination of storm surge and the tide will cause normally dry areas near the coast to be flooded by rising waters moving inland from the shoreline. The water could reach the following heights above ground somewhere in the indicated areas if the peak surge occurs at the time of high tide... * Middle of Longboat Key to Bonita Beach, including Charlotte Harbor...8-12 ft * Bonita Beach to Chokoloskee...6-10 ft * Anclote River to Middle of Longboat Key, including Tampa Bay...4-6 ft * Chokoloskee to East Cape Sable...4-7 ft * Suwannee River to Anclote River...3-5 ft * Lower Keys from Key West to Big Pine Key, including the Dry Tortugas...3-5 ft * Flagler/Volusia County Line to Savannah River including St. Johns River...3-5 ft * St. Johns River south of Julington...2-4 ft * Savannah River to South Santee River...2-4 ft * East Cape Sable to Card Sound Bridge...2-4 ft * Florida Keys east of Big Pine Key...2-4 ft * Patrick Air Force Base to Flagler/Volusia County Line...1-3 ft * Indian Pass to Suwanee River...1-3 ft The deepest water will occur along the immediate coast near and to the right of the center, where the surge will be accompanied by large waves. Surge-related flooding depends on the relative timing of the surge and the tidal cycle, and can vary greatly over short distances. For information specific to your area, please see products issued by your local National Weather Service forecast office. WIND: Catastrophic wind damage is likely where the core of Ian moves onshore. Hurricane conditions will begin along the west coast of Florida within the Hurricane Warning area later this morning, with tropical storm conditions beginning before daybreak. Tropical storm conditions are occurring in the warning area in the Florida Keys, and will continue this morning. Tropical storm conditions are expected in the warning area on the east coast of Florida beginning today, and should spread up the Georgia and South Carolina coasts tonight and Thursday. Tropical storm conditions are expected within the warning area in Cuba for the next few hours. RAINFALL: Ian is expected to produce the following storm total rainfall: * Florida Keys and South Florida: 6 to 8 inches, with local maxima up to 12 inches. * Central and Northeast Florida: 12 to 18 inches, with local maxima up to 24 inches. * Eastern Georgia and Coastal South Carolina: 4 to 8 inches, with local maxima of 12 inches. Widespread, life-threatening catastrophic flash, urban, and river flooding is expected across central Florida. Widespread considerable flash, urban, and river flooding is expected across portions of southern Florida through Wednesday, and northeast Florida, southeastern Georgia, and coastal South Carolina later this week through the weekend. Limited flash, urban, and river flooding is possible over portions of the Southeast and southern Mid-Atlantic later this week through the weekend. TORNADOES: Tornadoes are possible today and tonight across central and south Florida. SURF: Swells generated by Ian are affecting the northern coast of Cuba, the northeastern coast of the Yucatan peninsula, the Florida Keys, and the Gulf coast of Florida. These swells will spread westward along portions of the north-central Gulf coast during the next day or so. Swells will increase along the east coast of Florida, Georgia, and South Carolina tonight and Thursday. These swells are likely to cause life-threatening surf and rip current conditions. Please consult products from your local weather office. NEXT ADVISORY ------------- Next intermediate advisory at 800 AM EDT. Next complete advisory at 1100 AM EDT. $$ Forecaster Brown 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Superstorm93 Posted September 28, 2022 Share Posted September 28, 2022 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hlcater Posted September 28, 2022 Share Posted September 28, 2022 1 minute ago, Superstorm93 said: Incredible watching an obviously sheared cyclone intensify anyways. Especially one that just finished an EWRC in the face of that shear. I really wasn’t 100% certain it’d be able to stabilize the core after the EWRC, let alone intensify at a fairly rapid pace. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MillvilleWx Posted September 28, 2022 Share Posted September 28, 2022 This storm is as healthy as its ever been in its life cycle. Good lord 13 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turtlehurricane Posted September 28, 2022 Share Posted September 28, 2022 Frictional convergence at coast is feeding vorticity-rich air into the eye wall, rapidly amplifying the overall vortex. Considering this, Ian is likely to intensify further. It could easily become a Cat 5, as long as recon is there to measure it. Plus, this frictional convergence will drag Ian eastward into the coast. It’s already begun tugging on it, as soon as the primary band hit SW FL the whole thing started to shift east on radar. getting absolutely pounded with tropical downpours here. This band alone could dump 6 inches on the metro areas. 4 2 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted September 28, 2022 Share Posted September 28, 2022 1 minute ago, turtlehurricane said: Frictional convergence at coast is feeding vorticity-rich air into the eye wall, rapidly amplifying the overall vortex. Considering this, Ian is likely to intensify further. It could easily become a Cat 5, as long as recon is there to measure it. Plus, this frictional convergence will drag Ian eastward into the coast. It’s already begun tugging on it, as soon as the primary band hit SW FL the whole thing started to shift east on radar. getting absolutely pounded with tropical downpours here. This band alone could dump 6 inches on the metro areas. It’s not going to be a cat 5. 5 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted September 28, 2022 Share Posted September 28, 2022 He looks pretty good. Considering what it was last night, I’m surprised it made it to cat 4. Figured it would be steady state. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LakeEffectKing Posted September 28, 2022 Share Posted September 28, 2022 The cleanness of the rapid EWRC, happened at the worst time. It expanded the wind field, and now is tightening the core... In the span of 12 hrs., this went from a very bad situation to a likely catastrophic one. 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nibor Posted September 28, 2022 Share Posted September 28, 2022 Overnight>Early morning IR 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattPetrulli Posted September 28, 2022 Share Posted September 28, 2022 REALLY trying to clear the eye, curious about how much more intensification occurs before landfall in about 6ish hours imo. Also meso vortices evident on radar/satellite. That SE side of landfall is likely going to be a very populated area regardless of due east wobbles and will receive one hell of a surge. Awful man. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattPetrulli Posted September 28, 2022 Share Posted September 28, 2022 2 minutes ago, MattPetrulli said: REALLY trying to clear the eye, curious about how much more intensification occurs before landfall in about 6ish hours imo. Also meso vortices evident on radar/satellite. That SE side of landfall is likely going to be a very populated area regardless of due east wobbles and will receive one hell of a surge. Awful man. Also seems to be slowing down just a little bit. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eskimo Joe Posted September 28, 2022 Share Posted September 28, 2022 Morning visible satellite should be a stunner. Ian sure is living up to the 'I' storm reputation so far. 13 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Modfan2 Posted September 28, 2022 Share Posted September 28, 2022 Looks like it’s heading N; when is the right turn projected? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MillvilleWx Posted September 28, 2022 Share Posted September 28, 2022 9 minutes ago, CoastalWx said: He looks pretty good. Considering what it was last night, I’m surprised it made it to cat 4. Figured it would be steady state. Went from EWRC to going gang busters without a hitch. Def not always the case historically. Going to be a beast of burden up until landfall. Thankfully my parents got the heck out of dodge (Up near Sarasota). 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eskimo Joe Posted September 28, 2022 Share Posted September 28, 2022 1 minute ago, MillvilleWx said: Went from EWRC to going gang busters without a hitch. Def not always the case historically. Going to be a beast of burden up until landfall. Thankfully my parents got the heck out of dodge (Up near Sarasota). Gulf storm gonna gulf storm. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattb65 Posted September 28, 2022 Share Posted September 28, 2022 One of the remarkable things to me is how well the intensification we are seeing unfold right now was shown on models like the HWRF, HMON and the globals. They've been showing this rapid deepening leading up to landfall for many of the model runs once this track more toward SW FL locked in. Edit: next 6-12 hours before landfall on models suggest this is the peak and going forward will be either steady state or slight weakening before landfall. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weather Mike Posted September 28, 2022 Share Posted September 28, 2022 5 minutes ago, Modfan2 said: Looks like it’s heading N; when is the right turn projected? The latest Euro, CMC and GFS looked like it came a little North. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattPetrulli Posted September 28, 2022 Share Posted September 28, 2022 FYI, Key West Naval Station still in tropical storm conditions as of last METAR update. Pretty sure that's around 12-ish hours of TS conditions, could be a little off though. Still really impressive. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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