GaWx Posted September 26, 2022 Share Posted September 26, 2022 12Z EPS tracks: mean near operational just offshore Tampa 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattPetrulli Posted September 26, 2022 Share Posted September 26, 2022 Something that shouldn’t be forgotten, GFS Euro and HMON all show an expansive wind field approaching the coast. It correlates with tropical storm watches issued for other areas of West Coast. That area near Ft Myers is really surge prone and has a projected 4-7 ft of surge which is enough to do a lot of damage Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bdgwx Posted September 26, 2022 Share Posted September 26, 2022 Based on the intersection of the 12Z GFS, ECMWF, and UKMET ensemble 1σ rings the best estimate of track is for an approach toward Tampa and then a slight left turn paralleling the coast north of Tampa and then a slight right turn into eastern Georgia. I think this might be a tick east of the official NHC track at 2pm and tick west of the 18Z TVCN track. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sn0waddict Posted September 26, 2022 Share Posted September 26, 2022 NAM definitely east, goes right into Tampa. Though as others have said that model should be taken with a grain of salt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hotair Posted September 26, 2022 Share Posted September 26, 2022 It’s bad enough that latest model runs took a further jog East. NHC incoming 5 pm will likely put TB dead center on their cone Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian5671 Posted September 26, 2022 Share Posted September 26, 2022 5 minutes ago, Sn0waddict said: NAM definitely east, goes right into Tampa. Though as others have said that model should be taken with a grain of salt. dumps 25 inches of rain on Tampa verbatim. wow. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TPAwx Posted September 26, 2022 Share Posted September 26, 2022 2 minutes ago, Hotair said: It’s bad enough that latest model runs took a further jog East. NHC incoming 5 pm will likely put TB dead center on their cone Perhaps the UK hooked onto the late stage evolution from early stages and this goes inland south of TB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hotair Posted September 26, 2022 Share Posted September 26, 2022 “National Hurricane Center director calls Ian forecast a "near worst-case scenario" for the Tampa area.” “This would be the storm of a lifetime for many Tampa Bay residents,” he added. for a long time I’ve admired the power of these beautiful storms. While I know they are destructive and deadly I still hold Nothing but awe. Looking at the visual on satellite today I have to say that Ian has more than earned my respect and if it goes on to destroy my home I will try not to be bitter or angry. A formidable cane is a thing of beauty for me. I’m sure I’m not the only one on this board who feels this way. 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoosier Posted September 26, 2022 Share Posted September 26, 2022 4 minutes ago, Brian5671 said: dumps 25 inches of rain on Tampa verbatim. wow. At least they don't get much surge on that run. Lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eskimo Joe Posted September 26, 2022 Share Posted September 26, 2022 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hotair Posted September 26, 2022 Share Posted September 26, 2022 Eyewall is closed. If we luck out it will be in ERC mode when It makes an approach on the coast. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yoda Posted September 26, 2022 Share Posted September 26, 2022 BULLETIN Hurricane Ian Special Advisory Number 15 NWS National Hurricane Center Miami FL AL092022 500 PM EDT Mon Sep 26 2022 ...IAN CONTINUES TO QUICKLY INTENSIFY... ...CONDITIONS IN WESTERN CUBA TO DETERIORATE THIS EVENING AND TONIGHT WITH SIGNIFICANT WIND AND STORM SURGE IMPACTS EXPECTED... SUMMARY OF 500 PM EDT...2100 UTC...INFORMATION ---------------------------------------- LOCATION...20.3N 83.2W ABOUT 155 MI...250 KM SE OF THE WESTERN TIP OF CUBA MAXIMUM SUSTAINED WINDS...100 MPH...155 KM/H PRESENT MOVEMENT...NNW OR 330 DEGREES AT 13 MPH...20 KM/H MINIMUM CENTRAL PRESSURE...972 MB...28.71 INCHES WATCHES AND WARNINGS -------------------- CHANGES WITH THIS ADVISORY: A Hurricane Warning has been issued for the Dry Tortugas. A Storm Surge Warning has been issued for Anclote River southward to Flamingo, including Tampa Bay. A Storm Surge Watch has been issued for Altamaha Sound to the Flagler/Volusia County Line, including the St. Johns River. The Tropical Storm Watch has been upgraded to a Tropical Storm Warning from Englewood southward to Flamingo. A Hurricane Watch has been issued from Bonita Beach to Englewood. The Hurricane Watch from Englewood to the Anclote River, including Tampa Bay, has been upgraded to a Hurricane Warning. A Hurricane Watch has been issued from the Anclote River to the Suwannee River. A Tropical Storm Watch has been issued from the Suwannee River to Indian Pass, and from Jupiter Inlet to Altamaha Sound. The government of the Cayman Islands has discontinued the Tropical Storm Warning for Grand Cayman and the Tropical Storm Watch for Little Cayman and Cayman Brac. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yoda Posted September 26, 2022 Share Posted September 26, 2022 Hurricane Ian Special Discussion Number 15 NWS National Hurricane Center Miami FL AL092022 500 PM EDT Mon Sep 26 2022 Ian continues to strengthen over the northwestern Caribbean Sea. The last report from the Air Force Hurricane Hunters around 1630 UTC found 700-mb flight-level winds of 79 kt. The inner core appears better organized, and the eyewall structure has greatly improved in radar imagery from the Cayman Islands. The 18 UTC satellite classifications from SAB and TAFB were a consensus T4.5/77 kt, but the continued improvement in satellite structure warrants raising the initial intensity to 85 kt for this advisory. Atmospheric and oceanic conditions remain very favorable for additional intensification during the next 24 h or so, as Ian moves over the very warm waters of the northwestern Caribbean Sea and the southeastern Gulf of Mexico while the shear remains quite low. The NHC intensity forecast calls for Ian to become a major hurricane before it reaches western Cuba early Tuesday. It is then forecast to reach its peak intensity over the southeastern Gulf of Mexico in 36 h. After that, southwesterly shear in association with a deep-layer trough over the eastern U.S. is forecast to significantly increase over the hurricane on Wednesday and Thursday, which will likely disrupt the vertical structure and import drier air into its circulation. Despite these less favorable conditions, Ian is still forecast to remain at or near major hurricane strength as it passes near the west-central coast of Florida on Wednesday and Thursday. The NHC intensity forecast agrees well with the latest IVCN and HCCA aids. Ian has made an expected turn toward the north-northwest, and its initial motion is 330/11 kt. The hurricane will move north-northwestward to northward over the next day or so as it is steered by a mid-level ridge to the east. A turn to the north-northeast with a decrease in forward speed is forecast on Wednesday and Thursday as the center of Ian moves near the west coast of Florida. The slower forward motion is likely to prolong the storm surge, wind, and rainfall impacts, especially along the west coast of Florida. The latest track guidance has come into better agreement on this scenario, although it is noted that small deviations to the shore-parallel track could have large implications on the impacts at particular locations along the west coast of Florida. The NHC track forecast has again been adjusted slightly eastward at 48-72 h, which follows the latest trends in the global model guidance and lies near but just west of the multi-model consensus aids. Based on the latest forecast and timing of expected impacts, Hurricane and Storm Surge Warnings have been issued along the west coast of Florida. Key Messages: 1. Life-threatening storm surge, hurricane-force winds, flash floods and possible mudslides are expected in portions of western Cuba beginning this evening and continuing into Tuesday. Devastating wind damage is possible where the core of Ian moves across western Cuba. Efforts to protect life and property should be rushed to completion. 2. There is the danger of life-threatening storm surge along much of the Florida west coast where a storm surge warning has been issued, with the highest risk from Fort Myers to the Tampa Bay region. Residents in these areas should listen to advice given by local officials. 3. Hurricane-force winds are expected in the hurricane warning area in west-central Florida beginning Wednesday morning with tropical storm conditions expected by late Tuesday. 4. Heavy rainfall will increase across the Florida Keys and south Florida Tuesday, spreading to central and northern Florida Wednesday and Thursday, potentially causing flash, urban and small stream flooding. Significant prolonged river flooding is likely across central Florida. FORECAST POSITIONS AND MAX WINDS INIT 26/2100Z 20.3N 83.2W 85 KT 100 MPH 12H 27/0600Z 21.7N 83.8W 105 KT 120 MPH 24H 27/1800Z 23.6N 84.0W 115 KT 130 MPH 36H 28/0600Z 25.3N 83.9W 120 KT 140 MPH 48H 28/1800Z 26.7N 83.5W 115 KT 130 MPH 60H 29/0600Z 27.5N 83.2W 100 KT 115 MPH 72H 29/1800Z 28.1N 82.9W 75 KT 85 MPH 96H 30/1800Z 30.1N 82.3W 45 KT 50 MPH...INLAND 120H 01/1800Z 33.5N 82.0W 25 KT 30 MPH...INLAND $$ Forecaster Reinhart Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeltaPilot Posted September 26, 2022 Share Posted September 26, 2022 Its pretty early to be wishcasting ERC's. Lets see what happens once it emerges off the Cuban coast in the morning. The really tough call on this is the trough strength and the fact that 10 or 20 miles one way or the other may make a LOT of difference if it scrapes along the coast all day as it nears landfall or closest approach. This thing does not need to make landfall to cause historic flooding and surge damage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eskimo Joe Posted September 26, 2022 Share Posted September 26, 2022 Ian Cat 2 based off the 5pm advisory from NHC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TradeWinds Posted September 26, 2022 Share Posted September 26, 2022 Sounds like NHC projecting landfall about Crystal River/Cedar Key based on 5 PM discussion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hotair Posted September 26, 2022 Share Posted September 26, 2022 From NHC discussion 5 pm 2. There is the danger of life-threatening storm surge along much of the Florida west coast where a storm surge warning has been issued, with the highest risk from Fort Myers to the Tampa Bay region. Residents in these areas should listen to advice given by local officials. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Superstorm93 Posted September 26, 2022 Share Posted September 26, 2022 Really, really weird call raising the intensity to 85 knots right before you have two recon planes in the storm. Oh well. We'll see how that works out I suppose. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJO812 Posted September 26, 2022 Share Posted September 26, 2022 18z Icon is east of 12z 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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CoastalWx Posted September 26, 2022 Share Posted September 26, 2022 4 minutes ago, Superstorm93 said: Really, really weird call raising the intensity to 85 knots right before you have two recon planes in the storm. Oh well. We'll see how that works out I suppose. Yeah, I agree. I see their reasoning, but I'm not sure how I feel about that call. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hotair Posted September 26, 2022 Share Posted September 26, 2022 6 minutes ago, CoastalWx said: Yeah, I agree. I see their reasoning, but I'm not sure how I feel about that call. Satellite probably suggested even higher perhaps? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted September 26, 2022 Share Posted September 26, 2022 Just now, Hotair said: Satellite probably suggested even higher perhaps? The presentation (spiral loo etc) is good, but lacks deep convection. I would not go higher than 85kts. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MANDA Posted September 26, 2022 Share Posted September 26, 2022 TPC has again nudged the track a little to the right. Looks to me as if they are calling for landfall very near or just north of Tampa. If that track is realized the slow movement to me implies about 24 hours of water piling into Tampa Bay being pushed along by 80-100 mph winds. That in addition to water piling up before that 24 hour period. If that track is realized it is going to be a bad scene up into Tampa Bay. Current surge forecast is 5-10 feet. Would not be surprised if that forecast was increased depending how things evolve over the coming 18-24 hours. Satellite has been becoming more impressive every hour during the day today. Exact track and intensity very important to exactly how bad it gets in an around Tampa. Seems to me the best chance for Tampa to avoid the absolute worst would be for this to cross the coast and come in to their south...i.e. like the 18Z Icon. A distance of 10-20 miles will make a big difference. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GaWx Posted September 26, 2022 Share Posted September 26, 2022 9 minutes ago, MJO812 said: 18z Icon is east of 12z 18Z ICON very similar to 12Z UKMET in entire trek through FL and is most SE ICON track since the similar 18Z run of 48 hours ago. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hlcater Posted September 26, 2022 Share Posted September 26, 2022 17 minutes ago, Superstorm93 said: Really, really weird call raising the intensity to 85 knots right before you have two recon planes in the storm. Oh well. We'll see how that works out I suppose. The core is cleaner on cayman’s radar and MW passes. Seems justified to me. But we shall see. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CamSE-Wx Posted September 26, 2022 Share Posted September 26, 2022 Is it just me or does it look like it's moving west on the GOES? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sn0waddict Posted September 26, 2022 Share Posted September 26, 2022 18z RGEM is right into Tampa as well. East of 12z for sure. Only reason I’m bringing this up is because the CMC was still pretty west at 12z, so I wonder if this is a sign that the 0z CMC may join the east train tonight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
olafminesaw Posted September 26, 2022 Share Posted September 26, 2022 3 minutes ago, hlcater said: The core is cleaner on cayman’s radar and MW passes. Seems justified to me. But we shall see. Yeah, sometime winds take a while to respond to improvemants on structure, but I suspect by the time they make the first pass, it will be at least 85 kts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TradeWinds Posted September 26, 2022 Share Posted September 26, 2022 4 minutes ago, CamSE-Wx said: Is it just me or does it look like it's moving west on the GOES? I'm watching radar and it still looks NNW to me. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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