psv88 Posted September 30, 2022 Share Posted September 30, 2022 Lightning firing in the core which is the remnants of the NW eyewall Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MANDA Posted September 30, 2022 Share Posted September 30, 2022 1 hour ago, CoastalWx said: This thing is virtually a coastal storm. I agree. Big sprawling ocean storm bumping up against strong high pressure aiding in keeping the winds up. No real change as far as impacts no matter what we call it but nothing tropical about this in my opinion. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LibertyBell Posted September 30, 2022 Share Posted September 30, 2022 12 minutes ago, MANDA said: I agree. Big sprawling ocean storm bumping up against strong high pressure aiding in keeping the winds up. No real change as far as impacts no matter what we call it but nothing tropical about this in my opinion. That may be a distinction without a difference. I always find it funny when people try to compare them to say which one is "worse" 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoAPPS Posted September 30, 2022 Share Posted September 30, 2022 1 hour ago, jbenedet said: Still Reminds me a lot of the perfect storm. More Extra tropical, then more sub tropical then more tropical. It was in the “grey” in terms of classification the whole time—shades of everything at once. What’s cool about this, is it’s the closest example of the perfect storm since (in my opinion), except this time we get to see what would have happened if it made a close approach to land and ultimately landfall. Key difference will be that Ian had less time to churn up the Atlantic, so the wave factor won’t be *as* impressive. That sounds really interesting! Do you mind going into more detail about the synoptic setup of both and how they compare? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hurricane Agnes Posted September 30, 2022 Share Posted September 30, 2022 9 minutes ago, MANDA said: I agree. Big sprawling ocean storm bumping up against strong high pressure aiding in keeping the winds up. No real change as far as impacts no matter what we call it but nothing tropical about this in my opinion. There's some cold air in that high pressure too - there were some frost advisories up overnight and earlier this morning for those directly under it too. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StantonParkHoya Posted September 30, 2022 Share Posted September 30, 2022 It’s 53 degrees at my location. Definitely more like November. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HKY_WX Posted September 30, 2022 Share Posted September 30, 2022 55 here in Wake Forest with gusts in the 30s. It does feel more like a noreaster than a cane. Def more of a subtropical storm now as it gains lattitude. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jm1220 Posted September 30, 2022 Share Posted September 30, 2022 Core is trying to tighten up again, looks like convection is attempting to wrap around. It’s interacting with a trough to the west and I agree it definitely looks more like a nor’easter but it’s trying to make something of a comeback. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GaWx Posted September 30, 2022 Share Posted September 30, 2022 6Z UKMET landfalls at Myrtle Beach at 5PM EDT. UKMET has been nothing short of stellar since the 0Z 9/25 run and better than any other model since then! Let's see if it can earn an exclamation mark for its performance here with a near Myrtle Beach landfall: 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StantonParkHoya Posted September 30, 2022 Share Posted September 30, 2022 Hard to believe it takes 7 more hours to make landfall Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hazwoper Posted September 30, 2022 Share Posted September 30, 2022 16 hours ago, mappy said: Not sure how high the camera is, 6-8 feet I’m sure. St James City, Captiva, Sanibel are all at or below 7’ elevation. Entire islands washed over. Oy. It’s well over 6-8’ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eskimo Joe Posted September 30, 2022 Share Posted September 30, 2022 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smokeybandit Posted September 30, 2022 Share Posted September 30, 2022 6 minutes ago, Eskimo Joe said: The biggest takeaway is that modern building codes work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marsman Posted September 30, 2022 Share Posted September 30, 2022 9 minutes ago, Eskimo Joe said: I was just about to mention this. Lots of planes in the air doing surveys per FlightRadar24. US Customs is also out over the Gulf, my guess is debris survey or stranded boaters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eskimo Joe Posted September 30, 2022 Share Posted September 30, 2022 4 minutes ago, marsman said: I was just about to mention this. Lots of planes in the air doing surveys per FlightRadar24. US Customs is also out over the Gulf, my guess is debris survey or stranded boaters. Its a myriad of aircraft with remote sensing capabilities for debris management, damage assessment, and getting the waterways reopened. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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CoastalWx Posted September 30, 2022 Share Posted September 30, 2022 18 minutes ago, smokeybandit said: The biggest takeaway is that modern building codes work. Structurally might look good, but you can't tell what it looks like from the air with a 10' wall of water moving through. 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted September 30, 2022 Share Posted September 30, 2022 Parts of Sanibel look like Homestead after Andrew. 1 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peribonca Posted September 30, 2022 Share Posted September 30, 2022 If it was 3-4 weeks later we'd be talking snow in western Maryland/high spots of WVa... Temps out there in low 40s still 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smokeybandit Posted September 30, 2022 Share Posted September 30, 2022 Just now, CoastalWx said: Structurally might look good, but you can't tell what it looks like from the air with a 10' wall of water moving through. Sure, you can't do much to prevent flooding. But everything is still in tact for personal property salvage and eventual demolition. But for the areas that didn't get storm surge, it will save hundreds of $millions 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jm1220 Posted September 30, 2022 Share Posted September 30, 2022 16 minutes ago, CoastalWx said: Structurally might look good, but you can't tell what it looks like from the air with a 10' wall of water moving through. Exactly, anywhere that had surge flooding has tons of water damage inside and has to be gutted, if not torn down because mold will start up soon. Unless these building codes have mold resistant walls. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoAPPS Posted September 30, 2022 Share Posted September 30, 2022 There's definitely a westward component to Ian's movement now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jbenedet Posted September 30, 2022 Share Posted September 30, 2022 21 minutes ago, smokeybandit said: Sure, you can't do much to prevent flooding. But everything is still in tact for personal property salvage and eventual demolition. But for the areas that didn't get storm surge, it will save hundreds of $millions Everything is in tact for demolition? Well thank the lord. Instead of a smoldering pile of trash, I have a well organized one. Thank goodness for modern building codes. What am I missing here? 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jm1220 Posted September 30, 2022 Share Posted September 30, 2022 4 minutes ago, jbenedet said: Everything is in tact for demolition? Well thank the lord. Instead of a smoldering pile of trash, I have a well organized one. Thank goodness for modern building codes. What am I missing here? Unless they’re building sea walls after this, one day the devastation will just happen again on those barrier islands/surge zones. Not sure what building code can keep the building from taking horrible water damage. Saw it firsthand after Sandy, buildings from the outside looked not terrible but inside- totally wrecked and in many cases needed to be demolished. The barrier islands may be easier, in those cases the demolishing was already taken care of. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TauntonBlizzard2013 Posted September 30, 2022 Share Posted September 30, 2022 Do the building codes really work though? I mean, why are people able to build houses in these areas where a strong hurricane can cause your entire house to be engulfed by water? like look at Punta Gorda. Houses stacked on top of each other on slivers of solid land surrounded by marsh 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smokeybandit Posted September 30, 2022 Share Posted September 30, 2022 6 minutes ago, jbenedet said: Everything is in tact for demolition? Well thank the lord. Instead of a smoldering pile of trash, I have a well organized one. Thank goodness for modern building codes. What am I missing here? Easier to clean up crap that's in one place than scouring the island for it. Do you want to clean up a pile of leaves that's in one pile, or rake the yard first? When you have hundreds of houses that are no longer fit for habitation (and thousands of people all wanting their houses rebuilt), that time, money and effort adds up when you have to rake the leaves first. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ATDoel Posted September 30, 2022 Share Posted September 30, 2022 building codes absolutely work. You can always sink piers deeper and raise the first floor higher if you're trying to keep a building safe from storm surge. You can always reinforce roofs and walls so they can withstand cat 5 winds. It just takes more money, but really not THAT much more. I do firmly believe that any building in a surge prone area should have to be self insured though. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jm1220 Posted September 30, 2022 Share Posted September 30, 2022 Storm is moving quicker too. High tide at Myrtle Beach is 11:30am, can’t imagine this is great timing. Tide will be going out as it comes in, so that’s a plus I guess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ATDoel Posted September 30, 2022 Share Posted September 30, 2022 Ian has put its foot down, landfall looks like it'll be within the hour just north of Charleston. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted September 30, 2022 Share Posted September 30, 2022 Codes work against wind, not water. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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