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Hurricane Ian


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11 minutes ago, ATDoel said:

This is my biggest problem with the way the NHC/MEDIA informs the public on hurricanes.  You always hear "forecasted to make landfall at xxxx location at xxxx wind speed".  People don't have the patience or understanding to look at the cone or listen to a forecast discussion about possible strengthening beyond the forecast intensity.  I would much rather the forecast to be simply to read out the locations within the cone of uncertainty, and to give percentages on possible strength at landfall.  If they know they can't predict the exact landfall  location and strength at landfall, they need to stop telling people that information like they can.

"I would have evacuated but they gave it a 15% chance of being a category 1"

"I would have evacuated but they were listing off all the possible locations and I didn't have time for that."

The only thing that'll improve forecasts is to better fund the National Weather Service and all other public weather agencies like the NHC. They are so severely under funded it's ridiculous.

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...AIR FORCE HURRICANE HUNTERS FIND IAN A LITTLE 
STRONGER...

Reports from an Air Force Hurricane Hunter aircraft indicate 
that Ian's maximum winds have increased to near 85 mph (140 
km/h).

SUMMARY OF 1115 PM EDT...0315 UTC...INFORMATION
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LOCATION...30.2N 79.3W
ABOUT 185 MI...295 KM S OF CHARLESTON SOUTH CAROLINA
ABOUT 265 MI...430 KM SSW OF CAPE FEAR NORTH CAROLINA
MAXIMUM SUSTAINED WINDS...85 MPH...140 KM/H
PRESENT MOVEMENT...NNE OR 30 DEGREES AT 10 MPH...17 KM/H
MINIMUM CENTRAL PRESSURE...984 MB...29.06 INCHES
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That’s very impressive, Irma for comparison was 125 TJ
To be fair that calculator isn't doing a complete spatial integration so it is likely over estimating the true IKE possibly by a lot. For point of comparison the same calculator using the Sandy NHC advisory yields 300 TJ if I'm remembering correctly. But yeah it's still very impressive and people should be advised not to scoff at Ian's cat 1 status.

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0Z UKMET is a little SW of the prior two runs with landfall near Georgetown instead of just SW of Myrtle Beach:

 HURRICANE IAN        ANALYSED POSITION : 29.5N  79.5W

     ATCF IDENTIFIER : AL092022

                        LEAD                 CENTRAL     MAXIMUM WIND
      VERIFYING TIME    TIME   POSITION   PRESSURE (MB)  SPEED (KNOTS)
      --------------    ----   --------   -------------  -------------
    0000UTC 30.09.2022    0  29.5N  79.5W      988            58
    1200UTC 30.09.2022   12  31.4N  79.2W      984            55
    0000UTC 01.10.2022   24  34.5N  79.4W      987            37
    1200UTC 01.10.2022   36  35.7N  80.4W     1002            25
    0000UTC 02.10.2022   48              CEASED TRACKING

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10 hours ago, jm1220 said:

My town had no power for a month because of the power infrastructure problem FL will be dealing with. Places that didn’t flood in Sandy did get the power back in a week or so, and crews from IN and MO were in my town working on it. In areas that had saltwater intrusion into any power infrastructure it likely needs to be rebuilt entirely. Anything electric/metallic, the salt water destroys. 

I feel like I was lucky to get power back in 25 hours

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10 hours ago, jm1220 said:

My town had no power for a month because of the power infrastructure problem FL will be dealing with. Places that didn’t flood in Sandy did get the power back in a week or so, and crews from IN and MO were in my town working on it. In areas that had saltwater intrusion into any power infrastructure it likely needs to be rebuilt entirely. Anything electric/metallic, the salt water destroys. 

Unfortunately parts of Florida is most likely looking at several weeks at least. It will really depend on how terribly the infrastructure took a hit, however, I have a feeling entire Substations are destroyed. 

Furthermore, I wonder how hard a hit the Fort Meyers Power Plant took. Surge would have been enough to destroy quite a bit of equipment. 

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Almost no net movement 11PM to 2AM  (only ~3 mph) per NHC coordinates wasn't totally unexpected based on the Euro and UKMET as they had very slow movement then. However, they both had it speed up quite a bit from 2AM through 5AM. So, look for an increase in speed to start soon. If it doesn't and the 5AM is near the 2AM position, then we'd know the models are off.

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Thread on severe inland flooding in central Florida in the Orlando-Kissimmee metro area.  That area contains hundreds of small lakes, basically a sitting duck for flooding when heavy rains hit.  However, this flooding is clearly historic!  A thread of videos and photos of the inland flooding in central FL:
 

 

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48 minutes ago, jconsor said:

Thread on severe inland flooding in central Florida in the Orlando-Kissimmee metro area.  That area contains hundreds of small lakes, basically a sitting duck for flooding when heavy rains hit.  However, this flooding is clearly historic!  A thread of videos and photos of the inland flooding in central FL:
 

 

Those images almost remind me of the tragic flooding pics of Harvey in TX around the developments, although so far Ian hasn't reached the obscenely excessive levels of rain that Harvey produced as a cutoff 'caine that just meandered around SE TX sucking in GOM moisture, and depositing it beneath where it traveled.  Will have to see how close it does get to that amount of rain though.

Ian has slowed a bit from the last update per the 5 am -

 

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Still Reminds me a lot of the perfect storm. More Extra tropical, then more sub tropical then more tropical. It was in the “grey” in terms of classification the whole time—shades of everything at once.

What’s cool about this, is it’s the closest example of the perfect storm since (in my opinion), except this time we get to see what would have happened if it made a close approach to land and ultimately landfall.

Key difference will be that Ian had less time to churn up the Atlantic, so the wave factor won’t be *as* impressive. 

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7 minutes ago, jbenedet said:

Maybe I’m wrong about this but the southeast coast doesn’t see a 980 mb coastal nor’easter though, even in peak baroclincity season… 980 or lower caliber doesn’t materialize until the mid Atlantic and northeast. Might make for greater than expected impacts…
 

Pretty cool. 

Yes, but the southeast coast encounters high category hurricanes, whereas the mid Atlantic and northeast do not. I think they’ll handle it.

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