Fall/Winter 22-23 General Observations

[Knoxtron]

Just hit 36°, 40+ hours below freezing! Just missing some snow on the ground 

[John1122]

I'm sure it will quickly warm, but it's 32 right now with precip getting closer. The models showing some ice may be on point. 

[John1122]

Had a little light snow over the last hour or so. Looks like some in SWVA and areas East of here as well in to NE Tn. Abington and Tazewell are reporting light snow.

[BuCoVaWx]

I was surprised to look out my window to see snow falling. It was actually coming down pretty good here in Big Rock about 20 minutes ago. Wasn't expecting that at all.

[BuCoVaWx]

To add to my last post, I looked out again, had been around 20-30 minutes since my last glance to see this 

[Carvers Gap]

8 hours ago, BuCoVaWx said:

To add to my last post, I looked out again, had been around 20-30 minutes since my last glance to see this 

That is a score!

[BuCoVaWx]

13 hours ago, Carvers Gap said:

That is a score!

Oh it is for sure! Definitely not going to complain about it lol. Hopefully a little taste of some upcoming fun for everyone.

[John1122]

Chilly 17 this morning. Reminds of November 1989. 

[nrgjeff]

Oh wow Nov-Dec 1989 was ludicrous cold in the Plains. I figure the same here?

December 1989 KCMO set its all-time record low two nights in a row at -22 but that's at MCI which was built in 1973. MKC got close to its all-time and it's been around much longer. MKC is in the Downtown heat island, so many went with the all-time story out of MCI.

[John1122]

4 hours ago, nrgjeff said:

Oh wow Nov-Dec 1989 was ludicrous cold in the Plains. I figure the same here?

December 1989 KCMO set its all-time record low two nights in a row at -22 but that's at MCI which was built in 1973. MKC got close to its all-time and it's been around much longer. MKC is in the Downtown heat island, so many went with the all-time story out of MCI.

Yes, several cold waves hit in November and December. I can specifically remember going deer hunting in 1989 and it was snowing and in the mid 10s. That was around November 24th. By December we had a brief very cold blast around the 4th with highs in the 30ish range and lows in the low teens. Then it warmed up for a few days, and on the 9th another front moved through and it stayed cold the rest of the month until just before New Years. Unfortunately it was bone dry for the most part until later in the month. We got a massive arctic front around the 19th that laid down about 4 inches of snow in a hurry. Then upslope got me to around 6 inches. Above 2500 feet the upslope laid down a solid foot during the month and it didn't melt. You could skate on ponds the week of Christmas. December 23rd we had a high of near 0 and a low of -14. We had 6 days below 0 that month.  Unfortunately the rest of the winter was bleh. We didn't have a really notable winter again until 1993.

 

That long preamble aside, it was 15 this morning. In 1989 we had 4 22s, 3 21s, and 3 mornings in the teens. But due to some very warm weather in between cold snaps we only ended up around -1 for Nov 1989.

[John1122]

Forgot to add to that post, after yesterday we've erased the huge + in my area and I'm now -0.5ish for the month. I noticed Knoxville has went from something like +12 to +1. Should slip BN there in the next few days but possibly go back AN due to cloudy nights to come. The wishy-washy period around and just after Thanksgiving weekend will  determine the +/- for the month for most of us. One day the models show it frigid, the next they are warm.

[Daniel Boone]

5 hours ago, nrgjeff said:

Oh wow Nov-Dec 1989 was ludicrous cold in the Plains. I figure the same here?

December 1989 KCMO set its all-time record low two nights in a row at -22 but that's at MCI which was built in 1973. MKC got close to its all-time and it's been around much longer. MKC is in the Downtown heat island, so many went with the all-time story out of MCI.

Yeah. Very cold here as well. -17 one morning. Just above 10" Snow for December though. One 5 incher a a couple smaller events. 

[nrgjeff]

Yes in Dec. 1989 we kept 2-3 inches of snow for 2-3 weeks. It stayed pretty white, vs getting dirty, because it was so cold with little daytime melting. I can't imagine that in our current regime. 

[John1122]

Today was the 6th day in a row with a low in the 10s, as it got to 19 this morning, it is also the 6th day in a row for Tazewell. Oneida has 7 days in a row in the 10s. It's 33 here right now. Looks like it's 34 in Middlesboro and basically it's 5-10 degrees warmer at the other official reporting sites around the area.

We slipped to -1 on the month after today. Will probably stay around that to close the month. The forecast looks like mostly highs below normal and lows above normal the rest of the month.

 

[John1122]

2.16 inches of slow, soaking rains overnight. Hopefully that's it for fire danger this season. Had a pretty big one last week on Cross Mountain in Caryville. 

[Daniel Boone]

Picked up 0.99" here. Much of the heavier stuff stayed to my SW.  It was a good soaking rain. Brings Monthly Total to 3.16".  Over an inch below avg..

[John1122]

Gonna end up at about -.8 for the month imby.  Norris OBS station is -1.4. Oneida also ended BN. Looks like most of the mid-state ended up around -.5 to +1ish.  Western areas are about the same as the mid-state.   East of 75 looks like the furthest from normal, it was generally +1 to +3 in the far eastern areas.  

[Carvers Gap]

On 11/21/2022 at 3:05 PM, John1122 said:

Forgot to add to that post, after yesterday we've erased the huge + in my area and I'm now -0.5ish for the month. I noticed Knoxville has went from something like +12 to +1. Should slip BN there in the next few days but possibly go back AN due to cloudy nights to come. The wishy-washy period around and just after Thanksgiving weekend will  determine the +/- for the month for most of us. One day the models show it frigid, the next they are warm.

That is pretty amazing.  We ended up +2.9, but we had several days of more than +15 and a +21.  

[Holston_River_Rambler]

Nothing like that first 34 degree rain to set the mood, lol!

[nrgjeff]

Well it is a Monday. 

[Holston_River_Rambler]

Creeks are looking healthy at Frozen head. Highest volume in a looong time.

Judge Branch and tributaries:

 

 

 

 

[dwagner88]

Amazing how quickly we went from dry creeks and cow ponds to flooding. 6.65" of rain in the last 7 days and looks like 2-3" more in the next 4 days.

[Daniel Boone]

42 minutes ago, dwagner88 said:

Amazing how quickly we went from dry creeks and cow ponds to flooding. 6.65" of rain in the last 7 days and looks like 2-3" more in the next 4 days.

wow! you all are getting slammed. so far just about an inch and a quarter here the last couple days. hopefully, we get 2 to 3" more.

[Holston_River_Rambler]

I'll probably be able to kayak in my front yard after this next batch of rain moves in:

[Holston_River_Rambler]

Beautiful night up here in Morgan County:

 

Sadly the clearing seems to only happen after dark. 

[Weathertree2]

Had a few lightening flashes claps thunder this am.

[Holston_River_Rambler]

The rain has absolutely poured here all day today. 2-3 was the WPC call, but I think 3 - 5 might be better once this moves out by 12z tomorrow:

 

Found an otter pond at 3000' in Frozen Head SP, wonder how it will look tomorrow, lol:

 

 

[John1122]

Poured all day here as well. There was some thunder around 5pm this evening too.

[Daniel Boone]

An inch here as of 10 p. m.. light to moderate rain began around 8 a.m. and continued until 6:30 , then a few showers.  Hopefully, we get another inch or so as water levels still need replenished up this way. 

[Knoxtron]

Currently sitting at a windy 21.6°, definitely seems a little colder than expected atm