Hazey Posted September 21, 2022 Share Posted September 21, 2022 I feel bad for the Sable Island ponies. I know they are a hardy breed and have handled storms before but i'm not sure what nearly 200kph will do to a sand bar with no real shelter. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bostonseminole Posted September 21, 2022 Share Posted September 21, 2022 Gonna suck for my cottage in PEI, hopefully it’s does not flood, faces the north beaches.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bostonseminole Posted September 21, 2022 Share Posted September 21, 2022 Just told my mother in law in Stanley bridge to leave..Bridge out of PEI will close Friday probably . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Radtechwxman Posted September 21, 2022 Share Posted September 21, 2022 Not sure Fiona will hit 140mph. Think max may have been reached. Not looking as great on satellite. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Santa Clause Posted September 21, 2022 Share Posted September 21, 2022 Fiona looking ragged Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marsman Posted September 21, 2022 Share Posted September 21, 2022 From Canadian Hurricane Centre: 4-8" of rain and 30+ foot waves in the Gulf of St. Lawrence Quote .... Fiona expected to impact Atlantic Canada and eastern Quebec with heavy rainfall and powerful hurricane force winds for the start of the weekend. ..... 2. Public weather impacts and warnings summary. This storm is shaping up to be a potentially severe event for Atlantic Canada. Numerous weather models are quite consistent in their prediction of what we call a deep hybrid low pressure system, possessing both tropical and intense winter storm-type properties (but with very heavy rainfall and severe winds). The latest forecast guidance brings hurricane Fiona off-shore to the south of Nova Scotia Friday night, passing through eastern Nova Scotia and Cape Breton Saturday, and then reaching the Lower Quebec North Shore and Southeastern Labrador early Sunday. Severe winds and rainfall will have major impacts for eastern Prince Edward Island, eastern Nova Scotia, western Newfoundland, eastern Quebec, and southeastern Labrador. There will also be large waves, especially for the Atlantic coasts of Nova Scotia and Newfoundland and eastern portions of the Gulf of St. Lawrence. Finally, there is a high likelihood of storm surge for parts of Nova Scotia, Gulf of St. Lawrence and Newfoundland. a. Wind. Most regions will experience some hurricane force winds. These severe winds will begin impacting the region late Friday and continue on Saturday. Similar cyclones of this nature have produced structural damage to buildings. Construction sites may be particularly vulnerable. Wind impacts will likely be enhanced by foliage on the trees, potentially causing prolonged utility outages b. Rainfall. Rainfall will be significant, especially north and west of Fiona's track, where heavy rainfall could lead to flooding. the highest rainfall amounts are likely for eastern Nova Scotia, southwestern Newfoundland and the Gulf of St. Lawrence region. Forecast guidance is suggesting widespread amounts of 100 to 200 mm, but closer to the path of Fiona, more than 200 mm is likely. Some districts have received large quantities of rain recently, and excessive runoff may exacerbate the flooding potential. c. Surge/Waves. There will also be some rough and pounding surf, especially for parts of Nova Scotia and Newfoundland. Large waves will reach the eastern shore of Nova Scotia Friday night and build to more than 10 metres. These waves will likely reach southern Newfoundland by Saturday morning. Some of the waves over eastern portions of the Gulf of St. Lawrence could be higher than 7 metres. Waves will break higher along some of the coastlines, and dangerous rip currents are likely. Storm surge will also be a threat, for parts of Nova Scotia, Prince Edward Island, including Northumberland Strait, Gulf of St. Lawrence region including Iles-de-la-Madeleine, and southwest Newfoundland, but it is too early to provide details on which portions of the coastline may be affected the most. 3. Marine weather impacts and warnings summary. Hurricane force southeasterlies should spread into Scotian Slope waters Friday evening, these hurricane force southeasterlies will persist near and south of the track. As the storm moves into the Maritimes, storm to hurricane force northwesterlies will likely develop behind it. Waves in excess of 12 metres should form south and east of the hurricane track, beginning Friday night. These large waves will likely reach the south coast of Newfoundland early Saturday, and parts of the Gulf of St. Lawrence later Saturday. Forecaster(s): Clements/Couturier. Quote FXCN31 CWHX 211800 Tropical cyclone technical information statement issued by the Canadian Hurricane Centre of Environment Canada at 3.10 PM ADT Wednesday 21 September 2022. The next statement will be issued by 9.00 PM ADT 1. Current position, strength, central pressure and motion At 3.00 PM ADT, hurricane Fiona was located near latitude 25.1 N and longitude 71.7 W, about 571 nautical miles or 1058 km southwest of Bermuda. Maximum sustained winds are estimated at 115 knots (213 km/h) and central pressure at 937 MB. Fiona is moving north at 7 knots (13 km/h). 2. Forecast position, central pressure and strength Date time lat lon MSLP Max wind ADT MB kts kmh Sep 21 3.00 PM 25.1N 71.7W 937 115 213 Sep 22 3.00 AM 27.2N 71.0W 936 120 222 Sep 22 3.00 PM 29.7N 69.7W 936 120 222 Sep 23 3.00 AM 32.4N 67.4W 936 120 222 Sep 23 3.00 PM 36.9N 64.1W 937 115 213 Sep 24 3.00 AM 43.3N 61.2W 936 100 185 Sep 24 3.00 PM 46.9N 60.4W 935 70 130 post-tropical Sep 25 3.00 AM 50.0N 60.1W 942 60 111 post-tropical Sep 25 3.00 PM 53.0N 59.8W 952 45 83 post-tropical Sep 26 3.00 AM 56.0N 59.4W 963 40 74 post-tropical 3. Technical discussion A. Analysis Fiona, a category 4 hurricane, is continuing northward. The once well defined eye has been filling with cloud on satellite over the last few hours. Vigorous convection is continuing to wrap around the centre, with satellite derived cloud top temperatures nearing - 80c in the northwestern quadrant. An area of convection well to the northeast of the centre is also evident on satellite at this time. Maximum sustained winds are held at 115 kts, and the central pressure is estimated at 937 MB. The motion is northward at 7 knots. B. Prognostic The environment will likely support slight intensification in the next day or so, as the hurricane travels in a moist environment over very warm waters under light to moderate wind shear. Beyond 18 hours, the model consensus begins to accelerate as an upper trough approaches from the west, bringing the hurricane near Sable Island Friday night as it undergoes extra-tropical transition. Then post-tropical storm Fiona is expected to make landfall over Cape Breton Island Saturday morning while maintaining sustained hurricane force winds. The forecast track has been shifted slighty westward with this update, to reflect the tight clustering of guidance ensemble members over Northern Cape Breton. The cumulative qpf field from the rdps/gdps suite is indicating a pre-cursor rainfall event well ahead of the centre beginning as early as Friday morning or afternoon. Rainfall totals suggested by the main models is showing more than 200 mm north and northwest of the track. C. Predicted wind radii (NM) Time gales storms hurricane NE SE SW NW NE SE SW NW NE SE SW NW 21/18Z 145 140 90 125 75 65 45 60 40 35 25 35 22/06Z 160 160 110 135 80 80 55 65 45 45 35 40 22/18Z 180 185 130 145 90 90 65 75 50 50 35 50 23/06Z 200 205 155 155 100 100 80 80 55 50 30 45 23/18Z 215 225 195 180 110 115 95 90 65 50 15 35 24/06Z 395 430 360 350 260 250 210 220 140 130 95 110 24/18Z 370 370 380 320 130 160 150 180 65 60 0 20 25/06Z 360 300 300 250 70 90 30 0 0 0 0 0 25/18Z 120 160 115 160 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 26/06Z 20 100 20 100 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 END/COUTURIER/CLEMENTS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
olafminesaw Posted September 21, 2022 Share Posted September 21, 2022 6 minutes ago, StormChaser4Life said: Not sure Fiona will hit 140mph. Think max may have been reached. Not looking as great on satellite. Perhaps an EWRC. Not exactly a classic structure either way, although still obviously a solid core 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CheeselandSkies Posted September 21, 2022 Share Posted September 21, 2022 Looks like the eye collapsed (or at least became cloud-filled), then just re-opened again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WxSynopsisDavid Posted September 21, 2022 Share Posted September 21, 2022 EWRC/internal processes still on-going but it looks like it’s about to complete. Cloud tops cooling again, ring of deep convection rapidly going up and wrapping around the eye. Eye is actually shrinking which is a classic sign we are about to get another RI process soon. Also, as Fiona is pulling away from the Islands shear is starting to abate and the W and S quads are starting to improve structurally 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorthHillsWx Posted September 21, 2022 Share Posted September 21, 2022 Yea in recent images Fiona looks much more symmetric and the eye has warmed and cleared out again. Beautiful storm 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WxSynopsisDavid Posted September 21, 2022 Share Posted September 21, 2022 8 minutes ago, NorthHillsWx said: Yea in recent images Fiona looks much more symmetric and the eye has warmed and cleared out again. Beautiful storm One thing I’m noticing is not only the reduction of the eye but how outflow is substantial now in all 4 quads. It’s noticeable on satellite that as Fiona gains latitude the shear abates the W and S quads. The rapid improvement overall in the last few frames is remarkable, as in how quick it’s happening. The small eye is leading me to think we get an RI process soon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Radtechwxman Posted September 21, 2022 Share Posted September 21, 2022 Satellite presentation has improved again. She's definitely trying 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prismshine Productions Posted September 21, 2022 Share Posted September 21, 2022 NOAA 3 is inbound, I got a feeling they are about to be taken for a ride...Sent from my SM-S102DL using Tapatalk 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WxSynopsisDavid Posted September 21, 2022 Share Posted September 21, 2022 3 minutes ago, Sandstorm94 said: NOAA 3 is inbound, I got a feeling they are about to be taken for a ride... Sent from my SM-S102DL using Tapatalk I am a gambling man, so I venture to say given the latest satellite presentations that pressure has dropped again but winds likely haven’t caught up. Either way it’s going to be interesting to see what they find 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prismshine Productions Posted September 21, 2022 Share Posted September 21, 2022 Holy hot tower Batman...Sent from my SM-S102DL using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Windspeed Posted September 21, 2022 Share Posted September 21, 2022 I think forward motion to the north is gaining just enough to finally ease the 300 mb flow, though it had already eased on the core somewhat the past 24 hrs, which allowed Fiona to become a Cat 4. There are some strong outer banding features, so cannot rule out multiple ERCs during the next few days, but Fiona may not have peaked yet if a stable eye can take advantage of the ever improving upper environment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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canderson Posted September 21, 2022 Share Posted September 21, 2022 3 hours ago, Bostonseminole said: Gonna suck for my cottage in PEI, hopefully it’s does not flood, faces the north beaches. . That is God’s country up there. Jealous (you rent out via AirBNB by chance, nkt during hurricane weather of course ha). Hope all is ok for you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newman Posted September 21, 2022 Share Posted September 21, 2022 3 hours ago, Hazey said: I feel bad for the Sable Island ponies. I know they are a hardy breed and have handled storms before but i'm not sure what nearly 200kph will do to a sand bar with no real shelter. For those that haven't been or seen pictures of Sable Island... This was a picture I took there this summer atop the West Light lighthouse. The island is only 1 mile wide at the largest point, 26 miles long. That white house below is where I stayed for the summer, it was only a 2 minute walk to the north side beach, and maybe a 5 minute walk to the south side beach. I bring this up to mention the true lack of anything there. I can't imagine what surge is going to look like 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jrips27 Posted September 21, 2022 Share Posted September 21, 2022 Badass 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newman Posted September 21, 2022 Share Posted September 21, 2022 Sable Island is at the max like 30 feet tall. Cut those 50 foot waves south of the island to like 25 feet and it's still tragic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cptcatz Posted September 21, 2022 Share Posted September 21, 2022 Recon recorded 119 knots in the SE eyewall and 933 mb. NE eyewall pass should be good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Windspeed Posted September 21, 2022 Share Posted September 21, 2022 Recon found pressures have fallen to around 933'ish but the winds have not increased. In fact they have dropped. This may be due to new strengthening eyewall convection but perhaps the vortex has not yet spun up to respond to the pressure falls. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prismshine Productions Posted September 21, 2022 Share Posted September 21, 2022 Eye looks to have collapsed again...Sent from my SM-S102DL using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Windspeed Posted September 21, 2022 Share Posted September 21, 2022 Eye looks to have collapsed again...Sent from my SM-S102DL using TapatalkThat may be cloud debris from the old eyewall left by the earlier ERC or partial cycle rotating around. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hlcater Posted September 21, 2022 Share Posted September 21, 2022 48 minutes ago, Newman said: Sable Island is at the max like 30 feet tall. Cut those 50 foot waves south of the island to like 25 feet and it's still tragic. 50ft waves will break offshore and be much less impressive. The surge is almost certain to inundate a good portion of the island though 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prismshine Productions Posted September 21, 2022 Share Posted September 21, 2022 Rather impressive for that big of an open eyewallSent from my SM-S102DL using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HillsdaleMIWeather Posted September 21, 2022 Share Posted September 21, 2022 Not every day you see a strong Cat 4 with an open eyewall lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Windspeed Posted September 22, 2022 Share Posted September 22, 2022 Yeah I am pretty certain that is old wall cloud debris slowly dissipating. Fiona is looking pretty sexy right now. Wonder what peak will end up being. I'm going to say 145 mph sustained sometime during the day tomorrow, though certainly it could get there tonight. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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