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44 minutes ago, CoastalWx said:

Will be wet south of pike later today and tonight into tomorrow. Still think CT may be ground zero.

 

38 minutes ago, Damage In Tolland said:

This has congrats Ray to BOS area written all over it .

 

15 minutes ago, Sey-Mour Snow said:

Starting to get concerned down here, looks like it’s wagons north again from northern ct to southern mass..

I’ll take the confused emoji for $800 Alex.

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18 minutes ago, Damage In Tolland said:

Glad you enjoyed your time in the beautiful hilltowns of NE CT . 
 

Hopefully your forecast will be better than mine . 

It is absolutely torrential rain right now. I mean if this is any indication you guys are good.  This is instant rivers down driveway and dirt road.  Muddy road.

Beautiful country, Woodstock has a VT vibe.  Dairy farms, rolling hills, dirt roads.

Can walk under 1 mile to state line.  Right under the reds.

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This always seems to happen to me.   The prophetic 'water cooler,' seemingly innocuous statement meant purely in jest ends up just f'n happening.   My neighbor and I were discussing the frivolity of "drought" in New England, not more than a week ago - prior to this ordeal even materializing in guidance.

I said to the guy, "...Climate has a way of finding its way back to normal - right? whether that is done all at once, or over an extended series of events, some how  some way, we always seem to end up where we're supposed to be"   ...  The impetus being, it is almost impossible to finish a year with only 5" of water   ;) 

Maybe this is taking the all at once road?  

Speaking of models, assuming this does go on to 4-7" and so forth, the Euro takes the prize for first awareness.   Whether it vacillated after the fact ( they all do anyway ) that guidance picked this up pretty coherently last Thursday.  Just sayn'

I was on the fence with this in all honesty.  I think I've expressed both ends of the pro and con... pretty much even in both directions.  

I never liked the general weak synoptic forcing. Models were jumping around with location/max too much, too - a continuity signal that sometimes means too much, just as often as it can be ominous.  They also disagree.   The Euro likes roughly SE VT to N.. RI for 2.5 to 3.5" ... while the GFS is insisting on nearly double those amounts, hammering much of CT/ HFD to NYC.   The NAM?  ...two runs in a row of 6-8" pretty much pan-dimensional HFD-PVD to CON NH is going to be a neat test - but that model takes synoptic 101 for audit anyway.. .  Point being, these disparities are just glaring enough that this is a nerd's porn for model competition. 

It may be the common theme is that the models don't do as well in weaker synoptic mechanisms.   They need that "loud" physical scaffolding to perform better.  That does not mean no big event though...   It's been a sneaky difficult forecast effort here. There's a gap there ... where big parameters coincide with weak forcing sometimes does, and some times does not bring hell.

I do/did like the notion of PWAT pooling along a stationary boundary - those tend to overproduce. That thing in Kentucky several weeks ago is an example ... ( though that's not intended as an analog).  These dense theta-e concurrent with slow moving and/or diffuse frontal convergence ...man, once triggered, it's sort of like the 'atmospheric dam' breaks. 

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2 minutes ago, Typhoon Tip said:

This always seems to happen to me.   The prophetic 'water cooler,' seemingly innocuous statement meant purely in jest ends up just f'n happening.   My neighbor and I were discussing the frivolity of "drought" in New England, not more than a week ago - prior to this ordeal even materializing in guidance.

I said to the guy, "...Climate has a way of finding its way back to normal - right? whether that is done all at once, or over an extended series of events, some how  some way, we always seem to end up where we're supposed to be"   ...  The impetus being, it is almost impossible to finish a year with only 5" of water   ;) 

Maybe this is taking the all at once road?  

Speaking of models, assuming this does go on to 4-7" and so forth, the Euro takes the prize for first awareness.   Whether it vacillated after the fact ( they all do anyway ) that guidance picked this up pretty coherently last Thursday.  Just sayn'

I was on the fence with this in all honesty.  I think I've expressed both ends of the pro and con... pretty much even in both directions.  

I never liked the general weak synoptic forcing. Models were jumping around with location/max too much, too - a continuity signal that sometimes means too much, just as often as it can be ominous.  They also disagree.   The Euro likes roughly SE VT to N.. RI for 2.5 to 3.5" ... while the GFS is insisting on nearly double those amounts, hammering much of CT/ HFD to NYC.   The NAM?  ...two runs in a row of 6-8" pretty much pan-dimensional HFD-PVD to CON NH is going to be a neat test - but that model takes synoptic 101 for audit anyway.. .  Point being, these disparities are just glaring enough that this is a nerd's porn for model competition.  It may be the common theme is that the models don't do as well in weaker synoptic mechanisms.   They need that "loud" physical scaffolding to perform better.  

That does not mean no big event though...   It's been a sneaky difficult forecast effort here.

I do/did like the notion of PWAT pooling along a stationary boundary - those tend to overproduce. That thing in Kentucky several weeks ago is an example ... ( though that's not intended as an analog).  These dense theta-e concurrent with slow moving and/or diffuse frontal convergence ...man, once triggered, it's sort of like the 'atmospheric dam' breaks. 

12z HRRR with over 15 in SW Tolland county lol

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Holy crap.  My Dad’s garden gauge looks like its over 1.0” already in like past half hour.

Radar showing 3-4+” in Sturbridge now.

This is torrential rain, driveway is washing out a bit.  Muddy torrents.  So much water coming out of the sky and we are on the southern end.  The noise is deafening.

Surprised no FFW in Southbridge/Sturbridge.

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averaging about .75 so far from this event around town, all of which has fallen since midnight.  Just off the top the head that's the most in a 24-hr period since maybe the end of June.

Someone S of the Pike near the border of NE CT is choking in a water boarding-

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Up to 0.01" here.  :P   50 miles SW, Bridgton had 2.2" by 7 AM.  20 miles NE, Solon reported 0.49". 
Some better echoes approaching, so still some hope.  Otherwise, it's the worst-case scenario - clammy 50s, just enough RA to keep everything wet but not enough to help the garden.  Only a few weeks until 1st frost, unless it's like last year when the veggies just stopped growing a month before the Oct 24 1st frost.

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