radarman Posted January 30, 2023 Share Posted January 30, 2023 In a land of high speed chairs, shout out to the old school triple at Northstar today 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
STILL N OF PIKE Posted January 30, 2023 Share Posted January 30, 2023 12 hours ago, mreaves said: Not skiing but this was the first weekend that widespread snowmobiling has been available and I can’t remember the last time I saw so many people on the trails. It was crazy. And I only got about 10 miles from home before we had to limp my buddies sled back home. I don’t ride but I imagined this would be the case , I think many are also nervous the season may end up short lived so that are not just eager to get out , but don’t want to miss it . Hope NNE keeps building a pack . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PowderBeard Posted January 30, 2023 Share Posted January 30, 2023 14 hours ago, NW_of_GYX said: It’s industry wide. Records set across NE over the last 2 weekends. The demand has never been higher which I think speaks to a hangover effect from COVID demand on outdoor access and the marketing strength (especially social media) of the outdoor industry as a whole. Everyone wants to be like their favorite instagram influencer. Season pass sales have been very strong from what I’m told and the value of an epic or ikon pass is still very good for your average 5-10 day a year skier. It was an extra 30 minutes to get home from BMOM yesterday due to traffic on rt 26. Almost all out of state plates too. Im assuming the recent storms got people to come up. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hazwoper Posted January 30, 2023 Share Posted January 30, 2023 so, for those in the know at Stowe (@powderfreak) how terrible is it going to be there Friday and Saturday? Heading up with family and I know the cold is going to be brutal. What winds and chances of lifts shutting down? This is pretty terrible timing for us. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MRVexpat Posted January 30, 2023 Share Posted January 30, 2023 Japan is a magical place. Did 11 days of skiing on the northern island of Hokkaido followed by 3 days in Tokyo. The people, food and snowfall were all incredible. Will 1000% be going back in hopefully the not too distant future. 11 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
STILL N OF PIKE Posted January 30, 2023 Share Posted January 30, 2023 4 hours ago, hazwoper said: so, for those in the know at Stowe (@powderfreak) how terrible is it going to be there Friday and Saturday? Heading up with family and I know the cold is going to be brutal. What winds and chances of lifts shutting down? This is pretty terrible timing for us. My guess is there should be warnings out for the conditions on the mountain . Frostbite will be a huge danger to anyone not very prepared and or experienced with much below zero temperatures and wind. Windchills -40 to -50 and temps near -30 at mountain Sat am . Sunday looks calm and less severe a couple hours after dawn 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowgeek Posted January 30, 2023 Share Posted January 30, 2023 Japan is a magical place. Did 11 days of skiing on the northern island of Hokkaido followed by 3 days in Tokyo. The people, food and snowfall were all incredible. Will 1000% be going back in hopefully the not too distant future. Wow, looks amazing! On my wish list now! Keep hearing how awesome it is. Great pics!!. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GCWarrior Posted January 31, 2023 Share Posted January 31, 2023 Not sure how to follow up Japan. That looks like it was an amazing trip! I’d like to make it there someday. February 1st marks the beginning of the end for snowmaking at a lot of resorts. Most places like to wrap it up before the busy school vacation week. So go longer depending on weather and need. Looks like a prime stretch for round the clock snowmaking the rest of this week at least down here. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowgeek Posted January 31, 2023 Share Posted January 31, 2023 Not sure how to follow up Japan. That looks like it was an amazing trip! I’d like to make it there someday. February 1st marks the beginning of the end for snowmaking at a lot of resorts. Most places like to wrap it up before the busy school vacation week. So go longer depending on weather and need. Looks like a prime stretch for round the clock snowmaking the rest of this week at least down here. Time for Killington to start loading up Superstar. Base isn’t currently deep on it. . 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
radarman Posted January 31, 2023 Share Posted January 31, 2023 10 hours ago, MRVexpat said: Japan is a magical place. . Awesome pics 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
radarman Posted January 31, 2023 Share Posted January 31, 2023 A few from Homewood today. Bucket list ski area. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HIPPYVALLEY Posted January 31, 2023 Share Posted January 31, 2023 30 minutes ago, radarman said: A few from Homewood today. Bucket list ski area. Wow! I see why that's bucket list. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
STILL N OF PIKE Posted January 31, 2023 Share Posted January 31, 2023 8 hours ago, HIPPYVALLEY said: Wow! I see why that's bucket list. Good year for Homewood. Nice pics and views . Id love to be out there . I Also heard thats more a family mountain For the area . 1600 vert Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hazwoper Posted January 31, 2023 Share Posted January 31, 2023 18 hours ago, STILL N OF PIKE said: My guess is there should be warnings out for the conditions on the mountain . Frostbite will be a huge danger to anyone not very prepared and or experienced with much below zero temperatures and wind. Windchills -40 to -50 and temps near -30 at mountain Sat am . Sunday looks calm and less severe a couple hours after dawn Wonderful Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
STILL N OF PIKE Posted January 31, 2023 Share Posted January 31, 2023 5 hours ago, hazwoper said: Wonderful I would consult @powderfreak he works there. If there is a gondola I’d stick to that and dress for Antarctica . The chair lift Ride would be ...bad . Are you able to just wait and ski Sunday. No wind and rapidly warming temps during mid am . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoarfrostHubb Posted January 31, 2023 Share Posted January 31, 2023 I could not envision skiing on Saturday morning. I've done some skiing at -5 to -10F with no wind and sun. That is loads different that what is coming Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SJonesWX Posted January 31, 2023 Share Posted January 31, 2023 On 1/30/2023 at 11:45 AM, hazwoper said: so, for those in the know at Stowe (@powderfreak) how terrible is it going to be there Friday and Saturday? Heading up with family and I know the cold is going to be brutal. What winds and chances of lifts shutting down? This is pretty terrible timing for us. no way to sugar coat it-it is going to be brutally cold. unless you have extreme cold-weather gear, you are risking frostbite-toes, ears, fingers, face etc. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hazwoper Posted January 31, 2023 Share Posted January 31, 2023 1 hour ago, STILL N OF PIKE said: I would consult @powderfreak he works there. If there is a gondola I’d stick to that and dress for Antarctica . The chair lift Ride would be ...bad . Are you able to just wait and ski Sunday. No wind and rapidly warming temps during mid am . We'll probably ski Friday and again on Sunday. Find something else to do Saturday. Heading back to Philly area Sunday, so we'll just be a little later. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Angus Posted January 31, 2023 Share Posted January 31, 2023 go snowshoeing or xc skiing and stick to the woods - that's my plan on Saturday. You will expend so much energy, you won't get cold. Dress in layers so you can shed but wear an outer layer that blocks the wind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkO Posted February 1, 2023 Share Posted February 1, 2023 I skied Jay once after a back to back 30", followed by brutal winds and cold. -17F at base without the wind. I did 2 runs and called it a day. Need the right wax for your skis. The snow makes a squeaking sound when you walk in boots. It sucked! I just checked the ECM snow depth map for Steamboat. Wasn't sure what I was looking at, then noticed it was in the 150"color. The maps don't go beyond that. Heading out 2 weeks from today. Nearly 27 feet since Thanksgiving. Not much in the forecast though. Maybe a couple feet.:D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
powderfreak Posted February 1, 2023 Share Posted February 1, 2023 On 1/30/2023 at 9:13 AM, STILL N OF PIKE said: I don’t ride but I imagined this would be the case , I think many are also nervous the season may end up short lived so that are not just eager to get out , but don’t want to miss it . Hope NNE keeps building a pack . To be honest I don’t really see or hear any of that sentiment except on this forum or among highly weather savvy people. The eagerness is 100% there but aside from this forum, the worry that the season is over soon isnt there. Most are just happy it’s here and now look forward to the next 2-3 months deep into April. Many eastern skiers are eternal optimists. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
powderfreak Posted February 1, 2023 Share Posted February 1, 2023 11 hours ago, hazwoper said: Wonderful Saturday morning is the one that’ll be next level at Stowe. Operations are usually curtailed to lower mountain lifts and/or Gondola. FourRunner Quad has shelter at Octagon at the top but I could see lower mountain lifts only and maybe Gondola as a viable option. Wind hold threshold drops greatly too… any decent breeze and lift goes on hold as no one wants to come close to any issues. The amount of risk assumed in those conditions is near zero. Wind can also trip sensors from chairs rocking, even slightly as tolerances of those sensors is extremely small. Normally that’s no problem, a lift mechanic just goes and verifies haul rope placement and it takes <10 minutes. It’s not ideal but it’s a CPS (cable positioning system) fault that lifts at most ski areas can see a few times a day in some cases. However, in that type of cold, even a 6-min stop is a problem. So if there’s a chance, lift goes on hold. Wind hold tolerance goes way down. Decisions likely made Thursday and Friday for any operational changes within the next 24 hours based on final forecasts. Personally, I’d try Friday and definitely Sunday. Saturday is out unless it’s one run for the novelty of it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
STILL N OF PIKE Posted February 1, 2023 Share Posted February 1, 2023 32 minutes ago, powderfreak said: To be honest I don’t really see or hear any of that sentiment except on this forum or among highly weather savvy people. The eagerness is 100% there but aside from this forum, the worry that the season is over soon isnt there. Most are just happy it’s here and now look forward to the next 2-3 months deep into April. Many eastern skiers are eternal optimists. I mean when I’m out skiing , I’m not voicing that opinion on the slope or on the chairlift , I’m definitely making the best of the day . I was primarily talking about “riding” snowmobiles, I’m pretty sure I was responding to someone about riding . But I could extend that and say , winter enthusiasts want to be out there Riding or skiing during the very good conditions , so you can simply say they wanna hit it while the hittings good . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
powderfreak Posted February 1, 2023 Share Posted February 1, 2023 26 minutes ago, STILL N OF PIKE said: I mean when I’m out skiing , I’m not voicing that opinion on the slope or on the chairlift , I’m definitely making the best of the day . I was primarily talking about “riding” snowmobiles, I’m pretty sure I was responding to someone about riding . But I could extend that and say , winter enthusiasts want to be out there Riding or skiing during the very good conditions , so you can simply say they wanna hit it while the hittings good . Yeah for sure, people chat about the winter and outlooks all the time on the lift rides. Everyone seems to know you have to hit winter while it’s going well in New England, absolutely. Maybe it’s just this impending vibe of doom on this board that gets me too, ha. The mood is like a funeral for someone who hasn’t died yet… but for some, maybe it was never living either, ha. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mreaves Posted February 1, 2023 Share Posted February 1, 2023 31 minutes ago, STILL N OF PIKE said: I mean when I’m out skiing , I’m not voicing that opinion on the slope or on the chairlift , I’m definitely making the best of the day . I was primarily talking about “riding” snowmobiles, I’m pretty sure I was responding to someone about riding . But I could extend that and say , winter enthusiasts want to be out there Riding or skiing during the very good conditions , so you can simply say they wanna hit it while the hittings good . Yeah, that was me, I think. I’m definitely worried about a short season. It’s a curse, we get snow and things are good but I’m always worried about what comes later. I need to just enjoy the present first. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
STILL N OF PIKE Posted February 1, 2023 Share Posted February 1, 2023 7 minutes ago, powderfreak said: Yeah for sure, people chat about the winter and outlooks all the time on the lift rides. Everyone seems to know you have to hit winter while it’s going well in New England, absolutely. Maybe it’s just this impending vibe of doom on this board that gets me too, ha. The mood is like a funeral for someone who hasn’t died yet… but for some, maybe it was never living either, ha. If you shared the board with the Saint Lawrence valley forum instead of sne the mood would be brighter , but Stowe was dancing along the bottom of the snow stake barrel for a bit so I mean as a skier I hope things stay decent . This winter I’m hopeful but not optimistic that NNE gets a good score on the winter “back 9”. It’s decently up in the air with a higher chance than normal (whatever normal is) in my opinion that it ends earlier . We are raging above average and that needs to change as we leave peak climo . N VT is positioned better than most Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
powderfreak Posted February 1, 2023 Share Posted February 1, 2023 6 minutes ago, STILL N OF PIKE said: If you shared the board with the Saint Lawrence valley forum instead of sne the mood would be brighter , but Stowe was dancing along the bottom of the snow stake barrel for a bit so I mean as a skier I hope things stay decent . This winter I’m hopeful but not optimistic that NNE gets a good score on the winter “back 9”. It’s decently up in the air with a higher chance than normal (whatever normal is) in my opinion that it ends earlier . We are raging above average and that needs to change as we leave peak climo . N VT is positioned better than most For sure but it’s game on right now, we enjoy. Been a great run of near daily snows past couple weeks again. Had another 3” on this morning’s reading (snow bough blew off tree and landed in front of Stake). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Froude Posted February 1, 2023 Share Posted February 1, 2023 1 hour ago, powderfreak said: Saturday morning is the one that’ll be next level at Stowe. Operations are usually curtailed to lower mountain lifts and/or Gondola. FourRunner Quad has shelter at Octagon at the top but I could see lower mountain lifts only and maybe Gondola as a viable option. Wind hold threshold drops greatly too… any decent breeze and lift goes on hold as no one wants to come close to any issues. The amount of risk assumed in those conditions is near zero. Wind can also trip sensors from chairs rocking, even slightly as tolerances of those sensors is extremely small. Normally that’s no problem, a lift mechanic just goes and verifies haul rope placement and it takes <10 minutes. It’s not ideal but it’s a CPS (cable positioning system) fault that lifts at most ski areas can see a few times a day in some cases. However, in that type of cold, even a 6-min stop is a problem. So if there’s a chance, lift goes on hold. Wind hold tolerance goes way down. Decisions likely made Thursday and Friday for any operational changes within the next 24 hours based on final forecasts. Personally, I’d try Friday and definitely Sunday. Saturday is out unless it’s one run for the novelty of it. Yeah beer sales will be up in VT ski towns this weekend. Friday is almost looking worse. More clouds, more wind, and temp dropping throughout the day. Not to mention we're all used to skiing in light layers in the 20s and 30s at this point, hah 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
powderfreak Posted February 1, 2023 Share Posted February 1, 2023 1 minute ago, Froude said: Yeah beer sales will be up in VT ski towns this weekend. Friday is almost looking worse. More clouds, more wind, and temp dropping throughout the day. Not to mention we're all used to skiing in light layers in the 20s and 30s at this point, hah Yeah Friday afternoon looks pretty rough. You’re right, if that has any dampness to it with clouds or that arctic haze, it’ll feel real bad. There’s that damp arctic cold we all know and love vs the clear cold, ha. Its going to be a shock to the body for sure. We are certainly soft from weeks and weeks of 20s and 30s. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SJonesWX Posted February 1, 2023 Share Posted February 1, 2023 9 hours ago, mreaves said: Yeah, that was me, I think. I’m definitely worried about a short season. It’s a curse, we get snow and things are good but I’m always worried about what comes later. I need to just enjoy the present first. yeah, I think that most snowmobilers are worried about that. @powderfreak it is much different than skiing. Ski areas can make snow to get through the lean stretches, and extend the season, but snowmobilers don't have that luxury. we need to get out there as often as we can while we have the opportunity, because the snowmobiling season can end on a dime. Trails are usualy pretty crazy once that first snowfall comes and trails get opened up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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