MNstorms Posted July 21, 2022 Share Posted July 21, 2022 Already a day3 enhanced highlighted. Models hint this could be high end event. ...THERE IS AN ENHANCED RISK OF SEVERE THUNDERSTORMS ACROSS PARTS OF THE UPPER MIDWEST... ...SUMMARY... Scattered severe thunderstorms should occur Saturday across parts of the Upper Midwest. A few tornadoes, large to very large hail, and significant damaging winds all appear possible. ...Upper Midwest into the Great Lakes... A notable shortwave trough is forecast to progress from the northern Plains east-southeastward across the Upper Midwest and Great Lakes on Saturday. A belt of enhanced mid/upper-level flow will likely accompany this shortwave trough and act to organize thunderstorms that develop ahead of it through the day. There is reasonably good agreement in model guidance that a very moist low-level airmass will be in place ahead of a front across the Upper Midwest Saturday morning. Steepening mid-level lapse rates and robust heating of this airmass through the early afternoon should foster moderate to strong instability. Deep-layer shear will be more than sufficient for organized updrafts, and supercells with a threat for very large hail appear possible with initial convective development across MN. Most guidance also suggests that quick upscale growth into a MCS will occur Saturday afternoon/evening with eastward extent into western/central WI and northeastern IA. Given the degree of buoyancy available, at least scattered damaging/severe winds appear probable as this mode transition occurs. Some of these winds may be significant. Have included an Enhanced Risk where MCS development and propagation appear most likely. Enough low-level shear associated with a southwesterly low-level jet is also forecast to support a threat for a few tornadoes. This severe threat should continue into the Great Lakes region Saturday night, but lesser instability forecast with eastward extent should keep the overall severe threat fairly isolated. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CheeselandSkies Posted July 23, 2022 Share Posted July 23, 2022 Looks like today is shaping up to be a potentially significant derecho for parts of MN/IA/WI. @madwx Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IWXwx Posted July 23, 2022 Share Posted July 23, 2022 Well, nothing like a tornado warning at 5:48 AM with rotation bearing down on LOT's office. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago Storm Posted July 23, 2022 Share Posted July 23, 2022 Well, nothing like a tornado warning at 5:48 AM with rotation bearing down on LOT's office. Had a brief radar sig in southern portions of Naperville. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A-L-E-K Posted July 23, 2022 Share Posted July 23, 2022 Nice storms Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
btcs31 Posted July 23, 2022 Share Posted July 23, 2022 Pretty wicked winds out of this storm. Lots of flickering power. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cary67 Posted July 23, 2022 Share Posted July 23, 2022 1.3" of needed rain 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SchaumburgStormer Posted July 23, 2022 Share Posted July 23, 2022 1 hour ago, Cary67 said: 1.3" of needed rain Somehow dry since midnight, which is impressive considering the radar replay 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tuanis Posted July 23, 2022 Share Posted July 23, 2022 7” of rain, 4 rounds of hail, somehow we didn’t flood but it came so damn close. I’m exhausted from preparing the house for water all night, and now another noisy cell pops overhead. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cary67 Posted July 23, 2022 Share Posted July 23, 2022 29 minutes ago, tuanis said: 7” of rain, 4 rounds of hail, somehow we didn’t flood but it came so damn close. I’m exhausted from preparing the house for water all night, and now another noisy cell pops overhead. Looks like worst of it skirted just north of here and hammered Lake Co Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cyclone77 Posted July 23, 2022 Share Posted July 23, 2022 Looks like we only picked up 0.09" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baum Posted July 23, 2022 Share Posted July 23, 2022 16 minutes ago, cyclone77 said: Looks like we only picked up 0.09" wheelbarrow full to top. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WaryWarren Posted July 23, 2022 Share Posted July 23, 2022 6 hours ago, CheeselandSkies said: Looks like today is shaping up to be a potentially significant derecho for parts of MN/IA/WI. @madwx It was nice knowing you. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malacka11 Posted July 23, 2022 Share Posted July 23, 2022 Hands down never had a worse storm here in my recollection. The wind is so loud it's insane. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Natester Posted July 23, 2022 Share Posted July 23, 2022 Madwx and CheeselandSkies going to get rocked according to the 14z HRRR. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
janetjanet998 Posted July 23, 2022 Share Posted July 23, 2022 IF the current storms over NE IL become the WAA wing of that MN complex ..get your boats ready you can perhaps see weak signs of this starting on the visible (connecting clouds back into MN) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CheeselandSkies Posted July 23, 2022 Share Posted July 23, 2022 MKX 15:15Z update said there was still some lingering convection over south-central WI, but seen nothing but sunshine out my window since getting up at 15Z. Edit: Looks like things may be a bit ahead of schedule, wasn't expecting to be being considered for a watch (or just outside of the area being considered for a watch) this early.https://www.spc.noaa.gov/products/md/md1563.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CheeselandSkies Posted July 23, 2022 Share Posted July 23, 2022 One of the most detailed severe weather AFDs I've seen from MKX in quite a while. Of course, also been a while since the core of a potential significant threat was focused over their CWA, with most of them in recent years setting up just to the north/northwest (6/15 and a few others this year) or south (northern Illinois). Quote 000 FXUS63 KMKX 231515 AFDMKX Area Forecast Discussion National Weather Service Milwaukee/Sullivan WI 1015 AM CDT Sat Jul 23 2022 .UPDATE... (Issued 1015 AM CDT Sat Jul 23 2022) Looking like a troubling forecast for southern Wisconsin for this afternoon and evening with confidence continuing to grow for a significant severe weather event for the area. A lot of ingredients are coming together to put all of the area at risk for later today. Initially focused on the lingering convection in south central Wisconsin. This backbuilding band of convection is nicely marking the low level thermal/moisture gradient in place there. The 23.13z RAP shows the 925-850mb moisture transport currently pushing into that area but then shunts it more to the east southeast later in the morning which should mark the end of that development. However, this transport quickly increases through the afternoon with a convergence zone still angling from near La Crosse southeastward toward far southeast Wisconsin...so wouldn`t be shocked if this forcing is just enough to pop some other scattered convection as that feature reintensifies this afternoon. As for the severe threat later this afternoon into tonight, quite a bit coming together to put together what looks to be a rather significant severe weather event for southern Wisconsin. Current 23.14z mesoanalysis shows a surface low pressure system over south central South Dakota with a warm front running east out of it along the MN/IA border before tailing a bit to the southeast into NW IL (well SW of the current convection in SW WI). Convection that is currently ongoing in central Minnesota is expected to be our focus for development later today. This warm front is forecast to lift northward and setup from southeast Minnesota on into southeast Wisconsin by this evening. Initial surface dew point analysis is showing that the RAP/HRRR is doing pretty well with showing low to mid 70F dew points along this arching warm front while the 23.12z NAM seems to be pushing those higher dew points way further to the north (GRB). Thus, will be following more along the lines of the RAP/HRRR this morning. As a result of these high surface dew points, sunny conditions leading to high temperatures getting into the 90s, and steep mid- level lapse rates in place, 23.14z RAP soundings show a fat CAPE profile through the afternoon and evening hours with the RAP showing about 4,000-5,000 J/kg of SB/MLCAPE along the warm front. These soundings do show a very small cap in place around 800mb which should hold things off from freely convecting through the afternoon and allow for the destabilization to occur. The trigger will come through in the form of the mid level shortwave trough/sfc low/and-or the strengthening low level jet. As for the wind shear, the 23.14z RAP profiles show a well balanced increase in wind speeds and veering wind directions with height which will lead to a very favorable effective wind shear profile. Low level wind shear/helicity increases along the warm front from late afternoon into the evening as the low level jet strengthens across southern Wisconsin. Will be keeping a close eye on any surges that happen with the expected QLCS for mesovort development as it will be a favorable environment for it unless it becomes outflow dominant. While the main focus is on the potential for a destructive wind event, can`t rule out the possibility of supercell thunderstorm storm modes given the high instability and favorable wind shear profile. Typically, the lines can be blurred with these events being either a derecho or supercell environment. Regardless, all hazard types are on the table for later today/tonight. More timing details to fall out by this afternoon. Halbach 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoosier Posted July 23, 2022 Share Posted July 23, 2022 5 hours ago, IWXwx said: Well, nothing like a tornado warning at 5:48 AM with rotation bearing down on LOT's office. That was a little surprising. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CheeselandSkies Posted July 23, 2022 Share Posted July 23, 2022 They're late with the 1630... Edit: Finally out, no moderate. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago Storm Posted July 23, 2022 Share Posted July 23, 2022 I’m out camping in NW IL this weekend, at White Pines State Park (Near Oregon, IL).Didn’t see the same extent of training activity that the Chicago metro area did overnight/this morning, but did end up in a severe t’storm warning around 4:15AM with a stronger t’storm, and had a few other smaller t’storms nearby earlier this morning.The aforementioned severe t’storm produced 50-60MPH winds, marble size hail and a great light show. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago Storm Posted July 23, 2022 Share Posted July 23, 2022 They're late with the 1630... Edit: Finally out, no moderate. Seems like a good call to have stayed enhanced, at least for now.There’s a lot of modified air over S WI/N IL/N IN/S MI, with an OFB pushing west and reinforcing in across SW WI and NW IL. We’ll see how it shakes out with time, but it could mean the maximized potential is in a small corridor across portions of NE IA/S WI/N IL. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CheeselandSkies Posted July 23, 2022 Share Posted July 23, 2022 88/71 at Madison with a south wind at noon. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vortex Posted July 23, 2022 Share Posted July 23, 2022 Caplan FB says confirmed touchdown in Naperville this morning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoosier Posted July 23, 2022 Share Posted July 23, 2022 18 minutes ago, vortex said: Caplan FB says confirmed touchdown in Naperville this morning. Yeah LOT confirmed it in a preliminary survey at about 8 am. No rating yet though. This tornado was before 12z, so the valid outlook at the time didn't even have a 2% tornado area. A reminder that tornadoes can still occur. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CheeselandSkies Posted July 23, 2022 Share Posted July 23, 2022 HRRR keeps bouncing around a bit with the exact timing from run to run, but it seems like somewhere in the 23-01Z timeframe should be rockin' around here. Decision on whether to actually leave the house or "porch chase" pending on storm mode/evolution as things get closer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vortex Posted July 23, 2022 Share Posted July 23, 2022 17 minutes ago, Hoosier said: Yeah LOT confirmed it in a preliminary survey at about 8 am. No rating yet though. This tornado was before 12z, so the valid outlook at the time didn't even have a 2% tornado area. A reminder that tornadoes can still occur. Ahh. Missed that. Thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Perry Posted July 23, 2022 Share Posted July 23, 2022 Didn’t rain here last night, but with strong southerly flow the modified air has settled in here. Dew points were briefly in the upper 50’s this morning, but have only slightly increased to 63° imby at the moment with a stern 15-20mph southerly wind. 18z guidance not handling the surface moisture at all. Plumes all showing 70-74° surface dpoints at the current hour. SB instability obviously not materializing as expected across southern lower Michigan so that’s probably why the slight makes that turn SE, betting that the strongest storms ride that gradient further south and most convection will weaken quickly this side of the lake tonight. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CheeselandSkies Posted July 23, 2022 Share Posted July 23, 2022 Watch being considered for portions of central/northern IL along the OFB. https://www.spc.noaa.gov/products/md/md1565.html Things seem to be evolving roughly as expected with the MN/Nrn. IA MCS, with no significant trends up or down. Quote The National Weather Service in La Crosse has issued a * Severe Thunderstorm Warning for... Fillmore County in southeastern Minnesota... * Until 315 PM CDT. * At 205 PM CDT, severe thunderstorms were located along a line extending from near Stewartville to near Adams, moving east at 35 mph. HAZARD...70 mph wind gusts and quarter size hail. SOURCE...Law enforcement reported 70+ mph wind gusts. IMPACT...Hail damage to vehicles is expected. Expect considerable tree damage. Wind damage is also likely to mobile homes, roofs, and outbuildings. Anvil debris from that beginning to push overhead but still seeing filtered sunshine in west Madison at 1917Z. For a threat, would have liked to see that OFB oriented more NW-SE instead of NNW-SSE as it appears to be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CheeselandSkies Posted July 23, 2022 Share Posted July 23, 2022 Here we go:https://www.spc.noaa.gov/products/md/md1566.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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