wthrmn654 Posted July 24, 2022 Share Posted July 24, 2022 You know it's too hot out when there's not 1 but 2 car fires at literally the exact same time, one on the northern state, one on the southern state... and on either ends of the Meadowbrook parkway that connects the 2!... 1 in million odds Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluewave Posted July 24, 2022 Author Share Posted July 24, 2022 1 hour ago, wthrmn654 said: I feel like that depiction out towards riverhead is incorrect, they had 2-3 inches of rain in the past week. You aren’t going to get that kind of IMBY resolution from a satellite map. But most of Suffolk south of the LIE has had very little rain this month. The sea breeze front has been stalling along the North Shore. Data for July 1, 2022 through July 24, 2022Click column heading to sort ascending, click again to sort descending. Name Station Type Total Precipitation BLUE POINT 0.4 E CoCoRaHS 0.15 SAYVILLE 0.2 SE CoCoRaHS 0.19 COPIAGUE 0.4 ENE CoCoRaHS 0.21 SAYVILLE 1.0 SSE CoCoRaHS 0.22 ISLIP TERRACE 1.1 NNE CoCoRaHS 0.24 AMITYVILLE 0.1 WSW CoCoRaHS 0.26 ISLIP TERRACE 0.5 W CoCoRaHS 0.26 WESTHAMPTON GABRESKI AP WBAN 0.30 PATCHOGUE 0.9 SE CoCoRaHS 0.31 FARMINGDALE REPUBLIC AP WBAN 0.32 REMSENBURG-SPEONK 0.9 NE CoCoRaHS 0.32 AMITYVILLE 0.6 NNE CoCoRaHS 0.35 BRIGHTWATERS 0.5 NNE CoCoRaHS 0.41 BAY SHORE 0.5 ESE CoCoRaHS 0.43 BRIGHTWATERS 0.7 NNW CoCoRaHS 0.46 BRIDGEHAMPTON COOP 0.53 CENTER MORICHES 0.5 N CoCoRaHS 0.53 SETAUKET-EAST SETAUKET 2.1 WNW CoCoRaHS 0.83 SHIRLEY 2.9 N CoCoRaHS 1.01 SHIRLEY BROOKHAVEN AIRPORT WBAN 1.09 ISLIP-LI MACARTHUR AP WBAN 1.17 MONTAUK AIRPORT WBAN 1.25 SHELTER ISLAND HEIGHTS 2.1 SSW CoCoRaHS 1.50 RIDGE 1.5 SE CoCoRaHS 1.66 NESCONSET 1.4 SSW CoCoRaHS 1.92 FISHERS ISLAND 0.5 NE CoCoRaHS 1.98 RIVERHEAD 1.3 SSE CoCoRaHS 1.99 RIDGE 1.8 SE CoCoRaHS 1.99 JAMESPORT 0.6 SSW CoCoRaHS 2.22 SETAUKET-EAST SETAUKET 0.3 SSE CoCoRaHS 2.27 SMITHTOWN 2.0 SSW CoCoRaHS 2.34 CENTEREACH 1.3 NE CoCoRaHS 2.48 NORTHPORT 1.6 NNE CoCoRaHS 2.49 PORT JEFFERSON STATION 0.3 SSW CoCoRaHS 2.98 MOUNT SINAI COOP 3.00 ORIENT POINT STATE PARK COOP 3.30 BAITING HOLLOW COOP 3.34 UPTON COOP - NWSFO NEW YORK COOP 3.39 CENTERPORT COOP 3.61 RIVERHEAD RESEARCH FARM COOP 3.99 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SACRUS Posted July 24, 2022 Share Posted July 24, 2022 88/62 off a low of 70. Only clouds would limit area wide near or record highs today and tomorrow. 95 - 100 in the area with the hotter/ dryer spots hitting low 100s. Front approaches tomorrow with storms and clouds ahead of the main passage and depending on clouds from those advanced storms will determine if we get more stron heat on Monday (7/25). Tue (7/26) depending on how much rain / storms linger if the 90s plus heatwave streak is broken for the majority of the area. Wed (7/27) The W. Atlantic Ridge begins to expand west for what looks like a period into and beyond the end of the month. Initially its a Bermuda high type pattern through the end of the work week Fri (7/29) and into next weekend, more humid , warm and continued storm chances (much increased). At times it looks like the W .A.R will connect with the WC/ROckies ridge and pushe stronger heat into the area. The next shot at some stronger heat would be Thu (7/28) and Fri (7/29) and then the middle of the next week. Overall warm to hot pattern but should see much increased storm chances. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wthrmn654 Posted July 24, 2022 Share Posted July 24, 2022 5 minutes ago, bluewave said: You aren’t going to get that kind of IMBY resolution from a satellite map. But most of Suffolk south of the LIE has had very little rain this month. The sea breeze front has been stalling along the North Shore. Data for July 1, 2022 through July 24, 2022Click column heading to sort ascending, click again to sort descending. Name Station Type Total Precipitation BLUE POINT 0.4 E CoCoRaHS 0.15 SAYVILLE 0.2 SE CoCoRaHS 0.19 COPIAGUE 0.4 ENE CoCoRaHS 0.21 SAYVILLE 1.0 SSE CoCoRaHS 0.22 ISLIP TERRACE 1.1 NNE CoCoRaHS 0.24 AMITYVILLE 0.1 WSW CoCoRaHS 0.26 ISLIP TERRACE 0.5 W CoCoRaHS 0.26 WESTHAMPTON GABRESKI AP WBAN 0.30 PATCHOGUE 0.9 SE CoCoRaHS 0.31 FARMINGDALE REPUBLIC AP WBAN 0.32 REMSENBURG-SPEONK 0.9 NE CoCoRaHS 0.32 AMITYVILLE 0.6 NNE CoCoRaHS 0.35 BRIGHTWATERS 0.5 NNE CoCoRaHS 0.41 BAY SHORE 0.5 ESE CoCoRaHS 0.43 BRIGHTWATERS 0.7 NNW CoCoRaHS 0.46 BRIDGEHAMPTON COOP 0.53 CENTER MORICHES 0.5 N CoCoRaHS 0.53 SETAUKET-EAST SETAUKET 2.1 WNW CoCoRaHS 0.83 SHIRLEY 2.9 N CoCoRaHS 1.01 SHIRLEY BROOKHAVEN AIRPORT WBAN 1.09 ISLIP-LI MACARTHUR AP WBAN 1.17 MONTAUK AIRPORT WBAN 1.25 SHELTER ISLAND HEIGHTS 2.1 SSW CoCoRaHS 1.50 RIDGE 1.5 SE CoCoRaHS 1.66 NESCONSET 1.4 SSW CoCoRaHS 1.92 FISHERS ISLAND 0.5 NE CoCoRaHS 1.98 RIVERHEAD 1.3 SSE CoCoRaHS 1.99 RIDGE 1.8 SE CoCoRaHS 1.99 JAMESPORT 0.6 SSW CoCoRaHS 2.22 SETAUKET-EAST SETAUKET 0.3 SSE CoCoRaHS 2.27 SMITHTOWN 2.0 SSW CoCoRaHS 2.34 CENTEREACH 1.3 NE CoCoRaHS 2.48 NORTHPORT 1.6 NNE CoCoRaHS 2.49 PORT JEFFERSON STATION 0.3 SSW CoCoRaHS 2.98 MOUNT SINAI COOP 3.00 ORIENT POINT STATE PARK COOP 3.30 BAITING HOLLOW COOP 3.34 UPTON COOP - NWSFO NEW YORK COOP 3.39 CENTERPORT COOP 3.61 RIVERHEAD RESEARCH FARM COOP 3.99 Right, just seemed odd seeing that blob on the north shore. I'm assuming as well that's a blooper of sorts. Especially since riverhead, where it shows drought has seen nearly 4 inches of rain this month already lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rjay Posted July 24, 2022 Share Posted July 24, 2022 88/72 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SACRUS Posted July 24, 2022 Share Posted July 24, 2022 1 hour ago, bluewave said: Today looks like the peak of the heatwave with Newark making a run on a record breaking 102°. It will also be the first time that Newark had a 5 day 100° heatwave. The best that Newark did in the past was 4 consecutive 100° days. Number of Consecutive Days Max Temperature >= 100 for NEWARK LIBERTY INTL AP, NJClick column heading to sort ascending, click again to sort descending. Rank Run Length Ending Date Period of record: 1931-01-01 to 2022-07-23 1 4 2022-07-23 - 4 2010-07-07 - 4 1993-07-10 - 4 1953-08-31 2 3 2011-07-23 - 3 2006-08-03 - 3 2001-08-09 - 3 1966-07-04 - 3 1949-08-11 - 3 1949-07-30 Missed it by one degree in 1993, who knows if there was any sensor issues but impressive analog. 7/7/1993: 103 7/8/1993: 105 7/9/1993: 104 7/10/1993: 105 7/11/93: 99 7/12/1993: 98 7/13/93: 97 And Aug 2001 8/6/2001: 97 8/7/2001: 100 8/8/2001: 101 8/9/01: 105 8/10/2001: 99 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
psv88 Posted July 24, 2022 Share Posted July 24, 2022 89 at 10 am…100 in reach? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lee59 Posted July 24, 2022 Share Posted July 24, 2022 20 minutes ago, bluewave said: You aren’t going to get that kind of IMBY resolution from a satellite map. But most of Suffolk south of the LIE has had very little rain this month. The sea breeze front has been stalling along the North Shore. Data for July 1, 2022 through July 24, 2022Click column heading to sort ascending, click again to sort descending. Name Station Type Total Precipitation BLUE POINT 0.4 E CoCoRaHS 0.15 SAYVILLE 0.2 SE CoCoRaHS 0.19 COPIAGUE 0.4 ENE CoCoRaHS 0.21 SAYVILLE 1.0 SSE CoCoRaHS 0.22 ISLIP TERRACE 1.1 NNE CoCoRaHS 0.24 AMITYVILLE 0.1 WSW CoCoRaHS 0.26 ISLIP TERRACE 0.5 W CoCoRaHS 0.26 WESTHAMPTON GABRESKI AP WBAN 0.30 PATCHOGUE 0.9 SE CoCoRaHS 0.31 FARMINGDALE REPUBLIC AP WBAN 0.32 REMSENBURG-SPEONK 0.9 NE CoCoRaHS 0.32 AMITYVILLE 0.6 NNE CoCoRaHS 0.35 BRIGHTWATERS 0.5 NNE CoCoRaHS 0.41 BAY SHORE 0.5 ESE CoCoRaHS 0.43 BRIGHTWATERS 0.7 NNW CoCoRaHS 0.46 BRIDGEHAMPTON COOP 0.53 CENTER MORICHES 0.5 N CoCoRaHS 0.53 SETAUKET-EAST SETAUKET 2.1 WNW CoCoRaHS 0.83 SHIRLEY 2.9 N CoCoRaHS 1.01 SHIRLEY BROOKHAVEN AIRPORT WBAN 1.09 ISLIP-LI MACARTHUR AP WBAN 1.17 MONTAUK AIRPORT WBAN 1.25 SHELTER ISLAND HEIGHTS 2.1 SSW CoCoRaHS 1.50 RIDGE 1.5 SE CoCoRaHS 1.66 NESCONSET 1.4 SSW CoCoRaHS 1.92 FISHERS ISLAND 0.5 NE CoCoRaHS 1.98 RIVERHEAD 1.3 SSE CoCoRaHS 1.99 RIDGE 1.8 SE CoCoRaHS 1.99 JAMESPORT 0.6 SSW CoCoRaHS 2.22 SETAUKET-EAST SETAUKET 0.3 SSE CoCoRaHS 2.27 SMITHTOWN 2.0 SSW CoCoRaHS 2.34 CENTEREACH 1.3 NE CoCoRaHS 2.48 NORTHPORT 1.6 NNE CoCoRaHS 2.49 PORT JEFFERSON STATION 0.3 SSW CoCoRaHS 2.98 MOUNT SINAI COOP 3.00 ORIENT POINT STATE PARK COOP 3.30 BAITING HOLLOW COOP 3.34 UPTON COOP - NWSFO NEW YORK COOP 3.39 CENTERPORT COOP 3.61 RIVERHEAD RESEARCH FARM COOP 3.99 Same in Nassau Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
psv88 Posted July 24, 2022 Share Posted July 24, 2022 1 hour ago, bluewave said: The driest parts of Central NJ this month also has the least snow last winter. Confirmed soil moisture is pretty good here. Was worried about my newly planted arborvitae but the soil is nice a wet without watering 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SACRUS Posted July 24, 2022 Share Posted July 24, 2022 10 AM broil up JFK: 89 ACY: 89 EWR: 89 ISP: 88 LGA: 88 New Brnswck: 88 BLM: 88 TEB: 87 TTN: 86 PHL: 86 NYC: 85 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rjay Posted July 24, 2022 Share Posted July 24, 2022 8 minutes ago, psv88 said: 89 at 10 am…100 in reach? Possibly for you but likely ends up 97-99. South shore needs to be hotter by 10am to have a shot bc the seabreeze usually comes in by 1pm. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluewave Posted July 24, 2022 Author Share Posted July 24, 2022 14 minutes ago, SACRUS said: Missed it by one degree in 1993, who knows if there was any sensor issues but impressive analog. 7/7/1993: 103 7/8/1993: 105 7/9/1993: 104 7/10/1993: 105 7/11/93: 99 7/12/1993: 98 7/13/93: 97 The longest 100° day streak on Long Island was 4 days in July 2010 at Mineola. The high of 108° was also the highest recorded temperature that I could find for Long Island. Wantagh came close but missed the 4 day steak with one day only making it to 99°. Wantagh reached 107° which was the 2nd highest tempersrure thst I could find for Long Island. Data for MINEOLA, NYClick column heading to sort ascending, click again to sort descending. Date Max Temperature 2010-07-04 103 2010-07-05 104 2010-07-06 108 2010-07-07 105 Data for WANTAGH CEDAR CREEK, NYClick column heading to sort ascending, click again to sort descending. Date Max Temperature 2010-07-04 101 2010-07-05 99 2010-07-06 107 2010-07-07 104 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
psv88 Posted July 24, 2022 Share Posted July 24, 2022 4 minutes ago, SACRUS said: 10 AM broil up JFK: 89 EWR: 89 LGA: 88 New Brnswck: 88 BLM: 88 TEB: 87 TTN: 86 PHL: 86 ISP 88 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dmillz25 Posted July 24, 2022 Share Posted July 24, 2022 4 minutes ago, SACRUS said: 10 AM broil up JFK: 89 EWR: 89 LGA: 88 New Brnswck: 88 BLM: 88 TEB: 87 TTN: 86 PHL: 86 NYC:85 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
psv88 Posted July 24, 2022 Share Posted July 24, 2022 1 minute ago, bluewave said: The longest 100° day streak on Long Island was 4 days in July 2010 at Mineola. The high of 108° was also the highest recorded temperature that I could find for Long Island. Wantagh came close but missed the 4 day steak with one day only making it to 99°. Wantagh mad it to 107° which was the 2nd highest temoersrure thst I could find for Long Island. Data for MINEOLA, NYClick column heading to sort ascending, click again to sort descending. Date Max Temperature 2010-07-04 103 2010-07-05 104 2010-07-06 108 2010-07-07 105 Data for WANTAGH CEDAR CREEK, NYClick column heading to sort ascending, click again to sort descending. Date Max Temperature 2010-07-04 101 2010-07-05 99 2010-07-06 107 2010-07-07 104 2010 was insanely hot summer. Remember following Phish around the northeast. Brutal 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SACRUS Posted July 24, 2022 Share Posted July 24, 2022 5 minutes ago, SACRUS said: 10 AM broil up JFK: 89 EWR: 89 ISP: 88 LGA: 88 New Brnswck: 88 BLM: 88 TEB: 87 TTN: 86 PHL: 86 yesterday at 10 AM vs today 0 AM Fry up ACY: 91 JFK: 91 PHL: 91 New Brnswck: 90 EWR: 89 BLM: 89 TEB: 88 ISP: 87 TTN: 87 LGA: 86 NYC: 84 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rjay Posted July 24, 2022 Share Posted July 24, 2022 Montauk was warmer that NYC last hour lol. But now Montauk has a south wind and the temp is down to 82. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SACRUS Posted July 24, 2022 Share Posted July 24, 2022 4 minutes ago, psv88 said: 2010 was insanely hot summer. Remember following Phish around the northeast. Brutal EWR had four consecutive 100 or higher July 4 - Ju 7th in 2010 and 54 90 degree (+) days for the summer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluewave Posted July 24, 2022 Author Share Posted July 24, 2022 2 minutes ago, psv88 said: 2010 was insanely hot summer. Remember following Phish around the northeast. Brutal The deep westerly flow took the 100° temperarures right down to Long Beach that month. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thunderbolt Posted July 24, 2022 Share Posted July 24, 2022 5 minutes ago, SACRUS said: yesterday at 10 AM vs today 0 AM Fry up ACY: 91 JFK: 91 PHL: 91 New Brnswck: 90 EWR: 89 BLM: 89 TEB: 88 ISP: 87 TTN: 87 LGA: 86 NYC: 84 I like how you compare apples to apples time Wise Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rjay Posted July 24, 2022 Share Posted July 24, 2022 On 7/2/2022 at 9:58 AM, Rjay said: @bluewave https://weather.gladstonefamily.net/site/KEWR Even after reading through this I still don't know how they came up with their analysis. https://weather.gladstonefamily.net/site/KNYC Lol no temp issue for nyc!! @BucksCO_PA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
psv88 Posted July 24, 2022 Share Posted July 24, 2022 1 minute ago, thunderbolt said: I like how you compare apples to apples time Wise Warmer on the north shore this morning because winds from SW and not the north. taking the boat to citifield today, should be toasty 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wthrmn654 Posted July 24, 2022 Share Posted July 24, 2022 Already 10 outages affecting 210 people on the island. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uncle W Posted July 24, 2022 Share Posted July 24, 2022 July 7-13, 1993 was one of the hottest weeks on record... Newark..... day...max...min... 07.....103.....78 08.....105.....82 09.....104.....83 10.....105.....84 11........99.....80 12........97.....80 13........98.....79 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wthrmn654 Posted July 24, 2022 Share Posted July 24, 2022 9 minutes ago, Rjay said: Montauk was warmer that NYC last hour lol. But now Montauk has a south wind and the temp is down to 82. There's deft a healthy breeze today, though temps are still climbing here on other fork. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SACRUS Posted July 24, 2022 Share Posted July 24, 2022 http://synoptic.envsci.rutgers.edu/site/imgs/vis_nj_anim.gif Up to 90 here about in line with yesterday. A bit more clouds though but warmer airmass 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weathermedic Posted July 24, 2022 Share Posted July 24, 2022 88/67 with the westerly breeze here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snowlover11 Posted July 24, 2022 Share Posted July 24, 2022 87 lets push for 100 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wthrmn654 Posted July 24, 2022 Share Posted July 24, 2022 This wind reminding me i still need to readjust my station on roof, it's not aimed correctly still Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluewave Posted July 24, 2022 Author Share Posted July 24, 2022 19 minutes ago, Rjay said: https://weather.gladstonefamily.net/site/KNYC Lol no temp issue for nyc!! @BucksCO_PA While it took some time to find, this paper explains why the MADIS range test that the Gladstone site uses is so flawed. NYC is a chronically bad type of site mentioned below. The trees covering the ASOS has been an ongoing issue since the 1990s.http://www.thinkmind.org/articles/geoprocessing_2019_1_10_30010.pdf Range tests are not perfect. The record high United States temperature would fail MADIS’s range test, although it would pass MesoW- est’s test. Both MADIS and MesoWest further employ a suite of tests that go beyond their simple range tests. “Bud- dy” tests compare an observation to neighboring observa- tions. MADIS uses Optimal Interpolation in conjunction with cross-validation to measure the conformity of an ob- servation to its neighbors [2]. MesoWest estimates observa- tions using multivariate linear regression [5]. A real obser- vation is compared to the estimate, and if the deviation is high, then the real observation is flagged as questionable. These approaches are flawed in that they do not account for bad metadata, such as incorrect timestamps or incorrect locations. They do not account for chronically bad sites which produce bad data including data that may sometimes appear correct. Of even greater concern, they may not do a good job in assessing accuracy and may be incorrectly la- beling bad data as good and good data as bad. The consequences of ignoring data quality are great. How can we trust our applications and models if the inputs are bad? In turn, how can we better assess data for quality so that we can be confident in its use? In this paper, we present new evaluation results for our previously-published method including evaluation with several new data sets. These results are significant in that they demonstrate the challenges of evaluation of methods for data quality assessment of spatio-temporal weather sen- sor data. The rest of this paper is organized as follows: Sec- tion II presents relevant literature, Section III identifies general challenges, Section IV defines our approach, 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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