40/70 Benchmark Posted July 12, 2022 Share Posted July 12, 2022 4 hours ago, dendrite said: GFS back to cooler later next week. Curious to see how that shakes out, but feeling like the warmth is going to win this time. Well, if the warmth is ever going to win it will be from now through the next few weeks.....I would take that bet right along withy you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Typhoon Tip Posted July 12, 2022 Share Posted July 12, 2022 4 minutes ago, 40/70 Benchmark said: You have positively got to be kidding me....you are one of the last few people in New England who should be on a scorched earth tour for anything concerning winter. You have above average snows every year. This is embarrassing but I admit to not understanding how the definition of scorched-earth applies to what this engagement is/means to people ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted July 12, 2022 Share Posted July 12, 2022 9 minutes ago, 40/70 Benchmark said: You have positively got to be kidding me....you are one of the last few people in New England who should be on a scorched earth tour for anything concerning winter. You have above average snows every year. I’m more referring to how briefly it lasts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted July 12, 2022 Share Posted July 12, 2022 4 minutes ago, Typhoon Tip said: This is embarrassing but I admit to not understanding how the definition of scorched-earth applies to what this engagement is/means to people ? I’m all referring to waiting all year for something that is fleeting and lasts a month. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Typhoon Tip Posted July 12, 2022 Share Posted July 12, 2022 Just now, CoastalWx said: I’m all referring to waiting all year for something that is fleeting and lasts a month. ha... I was being droll - I get it... winter + scorched is an interesting motivational circuitry. HAHA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
40/70 Benchmark Posted July 12, 2022 Share Posted July 12, 2022 6 minutes ago, Typhoon Tip said: This is embarrassing but I admit to not understanding how the definition of scorched-earth applies to what this engagement is/means to people ? The "scorched earth tour" means that he'd be on a rampage..IOW, very pissed off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
40/70 Benchmark Posted July 12, 2022 Share Posted July 12, 2022 1 minute ago, CoastalWx said: I’m more referring to how briefly it lasts. Cry me a frigging river. You can have one from my string of shitty seasons that lasts four months. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted July 12, 2022 Share Posted July 12, 2022 4 minutes ago, 40/70 Benchmark said: Cry me a frigging river. You can have one from my string of shitty seasons that lasts four months. So you're happy with a short season? Sure I got lucky in a 20 mile wide band this season, but that melted in a week. December sucked and so did a chunk of the rest of the winter. That's all I mean. My average has a wide standard deviation. Some winters will blow, some will be good. I know it's been tougher there recently, but we all know that won't last. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Typhoon Tip Posted July 12, 2022 Share Posted July 12, 2022 Y'all should start wiring some internal psycho-babble circuitry around the notion of winters not being good, more likely than being good.. moving forward//a part of how the changing global environment forces our local climate paradigm. That's code for, get used to it. There will be good times... but they will be outnumbered by bad perception eras. Now, some of that neg-head perception will be biased in unfair personal greed ( LOL ) and borderline delusional expectations... But even accounting for that bag of cats, there are left over real dogs in the bad winter manifold. We have seen accelerated base-line mid level jet fields all over the planet, regardless of polar indexing and ENSOs ...all of which are screwing the previous more stable statistical correlation/teleconnection projection methods, including ...seasonal outlooks. Those that don't except this will default to seeing the world through a dysphoric lens and never be happy. Those that do... may take joy/appreciation in smaller fan-fair. Such that when the increasingly rarefied big result happens... that'll be the some seriously awesome cocaine! In a hundred years of climate change ...those folks won't have ever known what a Feb 5-7 1978 looks like outside of memory cards restored from the dystopian rubble world. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted July 12, 2022 Share Posted July 12, 2022 I think most winter enthusiasts would agree that having a short season while surrounded by weeks of cutters-cold is just misery. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
40/70 Benchmark Posted July 12, 2022 Share Posted July 12, 2022 6 minutes ago, CoastalWx said: So you're happy with a short season? Sure I got lucky in a 20 mile wide band this season, but that melted in a week. December sucked and so did a chunk of the rest of the winter. That's all I mean. My average has a wide standard deviation. Some winters will blow, some will be good. I know it's been tougher there recently, but we all know that won't last. I honestly would have loved to catch a 20 mile swath like that. Not to mentioned you witnessed one of the best blizzards of your life. I would prefer that over a 4 month stretch of climo snow and cold. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
40/70 Benchmark Posted July 12, 2022 Share Posted July 12, 2022 2 minutes ago, CoastalWx said: I think most winter enthusiasts would agree that having like 8/10 seasons feature above average snowfall and capped off with an epic blizzard is pretty neat. Yep. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
40/70 Benchmark Posted July 12, 2022 Share Posted July 12, 2022 6 minutes ago, Typhoon Tip said: Y'all should start wiring some internal psycho-babble circuitry around the notion of winters not being good, more likely than being good.. moving forward//a part of how the changing global environment forces our local climate paradigm. That's code for, get used to it. There will be good times... but they will be outnumbered by bad perception eras. Now, some of that neg-head perception will be biased in unfair personal greed ( LOL ) and borderline delusional expectations... But even accounting for that bag of cats, there are left over real dogs in the bad winter manifold. We have seen accelerated base-line mid level jet fields all over the planet, regardless of polar indexing and ENSOs ...all of which are screwing the previous more stable statistical correlation/teleconnection projection methods, including ...seasonal outlooks. Those that don't except this will default to seeing the world through a dysphoric lens and never be happy. Those that do... may take joy/appreciation in smaller fan-fair. Such that when the increasingly rarefied big result happens... that'll be the some seriously awesome cocaine! In a hundred years of climate change ...those folks won't have ever known what a Feb 5-7 1978 looks like outside of memory cards restored from the dystopian rubble world. Its not about a failure to except climate change, its about one area of the region being boned and one not....though I'm sure you will find a way to attribute that to the Hadley Cell encroachment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted July 12, 2022 Share Posted July 12, 2022 5 minutes ago, 40/70 Benchmark said: I honestly would have loved to catch a 20 mile swath like that. Not to mentioned you witnessed one of the best blizzards of your life. I would prefer that over a 4 month stretch of climo snow and cold. Ok fine, but all of the other winters have been short. That's all I mean. Remember that Dec 2019 and Feb 2021 where pretty darn good there and rather mediocre here. But getting upset because I was AN snowfall while having a wide SD is like me getting upset that HYA got 50" and I got 40". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
40/70 Benchmark Posted July 12, 2022 Share Posted July 12, 2022 Just now, CoastalWx said: Ok fine, but all of the other winters have been short. That's all I mean. Remember that Deb 2019 and Feb 2021 where pretty darn good there and rather mediocre here. But getting upset because i was AN snowfall while having a wide SD is like me getting upset that HYA got 50" and I got 40". You should; that's a porking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weatherwiz Posted July 12, 2022 Share Posted July 12, 2022 All seasons are the same length Spring = 3 months Summer = 3 months Fall = 3 months Winter - 3 months 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
40/70 Benchmark Posted July 12, 2022 Share Posted July 12, 2022 I guess I thought Scott was more like me in that he prioritizes the big fish....I would have expected an appreciation for 4 months of currier and ives from Kevin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted July 12, 2022 Share Posted July 12, 2022 Just now, 40/70 Benchmark said: You should; that's a porking. Eh, it's an area that is not all that snowy. Just like comparing Methuen to Weymouth. Your climo is much more conducive to snow despite the weird narrow porking that area has had. I can't be mad if an area that is less snowy beats me. But that's just me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J Paul Gordon Posted July 12, 2022 Share Posted July 12, 2022 I'm loving the short hot spells and general warm/low humidity days. Sure, a two week suffocation spell will probably come, but its getting on to mid July and it hasn't happened yet. Just need a little rain. Moved from the city to the country and really notice the cooler nights out here in Clinton/Lancaster MA. Even with the lower elevation the weather is overall cooler than it was in town. By the time I get home from work its already a good 2 - 3 degrees cooler where I am than it was at a higher elevation in the city. We'll see what happens come winter in terms of snow. Further northeast, but lower elevation and (slightly) closer to the coast. On the other hand I'm officially in north Worcester county. LOL Great checking in to see what's being talked about. Often forget the board in the doldrums between May and October. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TauntonBlizzard2013 Posted July 12, 2022 Share Posted July 12, 2022 11 minutes ago, CoastalWx said: So you're happy with a short season? Sure I got lucky in a 20 mile wide band this season, but that melted in a week. December sucked and so did a chunk of the rest of the winter. That's all I mean. My average has a wide standard deviation. Some winters will blow, some will be good. I know it's been tougher there recently, but we all know that won't last. You and even me somewhat have consistently caught that 20 mile wide band for like 2 decades now. He has a point. I can’t bring myself to talk poorly about a season where I got 3/4 of my climo snowfall in one event Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted July 12, 2022 Share Posted July 12, 2022 Just now, 40/70 Benchmark said: I guess I thought Scott was more like me in that he prioritizes the big fish....I would have expected an appreciation for 4 months of currier and ives from Kevin. I do...immensely. Maybe it's getting lost....but to me, waiting all year for a shortened winter season just sucks. I struggle in winter outside of snow events. It's a looooooooong season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
40/70 Benchmark Posted July 12, 2022 Share Posted July 12, 2022 Just now, CoastalWx said: Eh, it's an area that is not all that snowy. Just like comparing Methuen to Weymouth. Your climo is much more conducive to snow despite the weird narrow porking that area has had. I can't be mad if an area that is less snowy beats me. But that's just me. Exactly this...which is why its so frustrating. Anyway, I feel like this season could be kind of meh again before the tide turns. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
40/70 Benchmark Posted July 12, 2022 Share Posted July 12, 2022 Just now, TauntonBlizzard2013 said: You and even me somewhat have consistently caught that 20 mile wide band for like 2 decades now. He has a point. I can’t bring myself to talk poorly about a season where I got 3/4 of my climo snowfall in one event Thank you...exactly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted July 12, 2022 Share Posted July 12, 2022 Just now, TauntonBlizzard2013 said: You and even me somewhat have consistently caught that 20 mile wide band for like 2 decades now. He has a point. I can’t bring myself to talk poorly about a season where I got 3/4 of my climo snowfall in one event Nah, not like that. Maybe you mean just doing well overall. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TauntonBlizzard2013 Posted July 12, 2022 Share Posted July 12, 2022 Just now, CoastalWx said: Nah, not like that. Maybe you mean just doing well overall. Well yes, overall we’ve done well. The Jan blizzard was just pure luck.. can’t predict where those narrow swaths will end up. My whole point was it’s hard to view last season negatively for a winter enthusiast around here. Storm of a lifetime, and some other decent events mixed in. Retention is never the name of the game here, so I don’t really hold that against it. Anyway, back on topic. I’m more impressed with Christmas dews than I have been with this summers so far. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damage In Tolland Posted July 12, 2022 Share Posted July 12, 2022 14 minutes ago, CoastalWx said: I think most winter enthusiasts would agree that having a short season while surrounded by weeks of cutters-cold is just misery. That’s how all our winters will be from now on. It sucks but it’s reality. Cosgrove says Deal with it 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted July 12, 2022 Share Posted July 12, 2022 1 minute ago, TauntonBlizzard2013 said: Well yes, overall we’ve done well. The Jan blizzard was just pure luck.. can’t predict where those narrow swaths will end up. My whole point was it’s hard to view last season negatively for a winter enthusiast around here. Storm of a lifetime, and some other decent events mixed in. Retention is never the name of the game here, so I don’t really hold that against it. Anyway, back on topic. I’m more impressed with Christmas dews than I have been with this summers so far. Season itself worked out from a snowfall dept. But if you enjoy some periodic winter that is trackable and lasts more than a week.....the last several years have been tough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyclone-68 Posted July 12, 2022 Share Posted July 12, 2022 I’d trade the next four winters for a decent tropical cyclone this summer and a nor’easter to be named later 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HIPPYVALLEY Posted July 12, 2022 Share Posted July 12, 2022 Just now, Cyclone-68 said: I’d trade the next four winters for a decent tropical cyclone this summer I think you and torch tiger are alone on an island with that wish. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted July 12, 2022 Share Posted July 12, 2022 5 minutes ago, Cyclone-68 said: I’d trade the next four winters for a decent tropical cyclone this summer and a nor’easter to be named later I have thoroughly enjoyed our recent Rocktober storms. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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