tamarack Posted July 11, 2022 Share Posted July 11, 2022 The average warmest 31 days of the year here began yesterday - still lots of time. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damage In Tolland Posted July 11, 2022 Share Posted July 11, 2022 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dendrite Posted July 11, 2022 Share Posted July 11, 2022 Don't those beach grasses brown and go to seed quickly? They've evolved to grow in sand and tolerate legit droughts. 3 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RUNNAWAYICEBERG Posted July 11, 2022 Share Posted July 11, 2022 4 minutes ago, Damage In Tolland said: Dude is on vaca and is still hyper focused on the extreme drought. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
powderfreak Posted July 11, 2022 Share Posted July 11, 2022 22 minutes ago, Damage In Tolland said: I don’t think those grasses are normally green very long at all to be honest. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damage In Tolland Posted July 11, 2022 Share Posted July 11, 2022 17 minutes ago, RUNNAWAYICEBERG said: Dude is on vaca and is still hyper focused on the extreme drought. He has serious problems. He simply loves droughts 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrianW Posted July 11, 2022 Share Posted July 11, 2022 Congrats Texas. I also read they broke records for highest electricity demand. Of the ten possible heat records yesterday (high minimum temperature and high temperature at five first order climate sites), we managed to tie or break nine of them! Here`s a quick summary: Climate Site | Min Temp | Record High Min Temp (Year) ---------------------------------------------------------- City of Houston | 82 | 81 (2009) Houston Hobby | 81 | 80 (2020) Galveston | 85 | 83 (2021) College Station | 80 | 80 (2009) Palacios | 84 | 83 (2020) Climate Site | Max Temp | Record High Temp (Year) ----------------------------------------------------- City of Houston | 105 | 101 (1998) Houston Hobby | 104 | 100 (1964) Galveston | 96 | 96 (1931) College Station | 111 | 109 (1917) Palacios | 95 | 99 (2005) As astute followers of Southeast Texas climate will know (or anyone who takes a quick glance at the tables should be able to infer), record high min temperatures in this area have fallen at a pretty rapidly clip this century. The afternoon high temperature records have not been falling at quite the same pace, so to have a day where so many records at both ends of the day fall really speaks to just how extreme this July 10 is in the historical record. To really drive it home, College Station`s high of 111 is the second highest max temperature on record, going back to 1888. It is only one degree off the all-time record high temperature for the city, which was recorded on September 4, 2000. It is the hottest July day on record for College Station, eclipsing the 110 mark last seen on July 11, 1917. Houston`s 105 degree mark matches the July record mark, last seen July 26, 1954. However, it is not the hottest mark so early in the year, as June 29, 2013 did reach 107. It also is "only" the 17th hottest day in the official record for the city. Hobby`s 104 degree high does put it in the top 10 all time, tying it for 8th. But it is neither a record mark for July, nor for so early in the year, as it fell one degree short of July 8, 1939 (and also June 29, 2013). Persistent onshore flow meant that while Galveston still saw a daily record today, it fell fairly far down the all-time record ledger. Its high of 96 is not good enough for even the top 50 all- time, and only good for tenth on the list of July records. This is mainly because the really extreme days at Galveston tend to come when onshore winds are suppressed, and can really spike when offshore westerlies can advect some hotter, mainland air over the Island. Finally, newcomer Palacios just couldn`t keep pace with the more established first order climate sites. It did manage to set a new record high minimum temperature yesterday, but fell four degrees short of its record high from 2005. Like Galveston, Palacios` location very near the water likely moderated afternoon highs slightly, keeping the site from really threatening those record highs. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
powderfreak Posted July 11, 2022 Share Posted July 11, 2022 20 minutes ago, dendrite said: Don't those beach grasses brown and go to seed quickly? They've evolved to grow in sand and tolerate legit droughts. Yeah those things survive on the coastal sand dunes and rock because they don't need moisture in the soil. “The Ammophila grasses are widely known as examples of xerophytes, plants that can withstand dry conditions.“ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kdxken Posted July 11, 2022 Share Posted July 11, 2022 9 minutes ago, BrianW said: Congrats Texas. I also read they broke records for highest electricity demand. Of the ten possible heat records yesterday (high minimum temperature and high temperature at five first order climate sites), we managed to tie or break nine of them! Here`s a quick summary: Climate Site | Min Temp | Record High Min Temp (Year) ---------------------------------------------------------- City of Houston | 82 | 81 (2009) Houston Hobby | 81 | 80 (2020) Galveston | 85 | 83 (2021) College Station | 80 | 80 (2009) Palacios | 84 | 83 (2020) Climate Site | Max Temp | Record High Temp (Year) ----------------------------------------------------- City of Houston | 105 | 101 (1998) Houston Hobby | 104 | 100 (1964) Galveston | 96 | 96 (1931) College Station | 111 | 109 (1917) Palacios | 95 | 99 (2005) As astute followers of Southeast Texas climate will know (or anyone who takes a quick glance at the tables should be able to infer), record high min temperatures in this area have fallen at a pretty rapidly clip this century. The afternoon high temperature records have not been falling at quite the same pace, so to have a day where so many records at both ends of the day fall really speaks to just how extreme this July 10 is in the historical record. To really drive it home, College Station`s high of 111 is the second highest max temperature on record, going back to 1888. It is only one degree off the all-time record high temperature for the city, which was recorded on September 4, 2000. It is the hottest July day on record for College Station, eclipsing the 110 mark last seen on July 11, 1917. Houston`s 105 degree mark matches the July record mark, last seen July 26, 1954. However, it is not the hottest mark so early in the year, as June 29, 2013 did reach 107. It also is "only" the 17th hottest day in the official record for the city. Hobby`s 104 degree high does put it in the top 10 all time, tying it for 8th. But it is neither a record mark for July, nor for so early in the year, as it fell one degree short of July 8, 1939 (and also June 29, 2013). Persistent onshore flow meant that while Galveston still saw a daily record today, it fell fairly far down the all-time record ledger. Its high of 96 is not good enough for even the top 50 all- time, and only good for tenth on the list of July records. This is mainly because the really extreme days at Galveston tend to come when onshore winds are suppressed, and can really spike when offshore westerlies can advect some hotter, mainland air over the Island. Finally, newcomer Palacios just couldn`t keep pace with the more established first order climate sites. It did manage to set a new record high minimum temperature yesterday, but fell four degrees short of its record high from 2005. Like Galveston, Palacios` location very near the water likely moderated afternoon highs slightly, keeping the site from really threatening those record highs. I'll pass... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Typhoon Tip Posted July 11, 2022 Share Posted July 11, 2022 52 minutes ago, BrianW said: Congrats Texas. I also read they broke records for highest electricity demand. Of the ten possible heat records yesterday (high minimum temperature and high temperature at five first order climate sites), we managed to tie or break nine of them! Here`s a quick summary: Climate Site | Min Temp | Record High Min Temp (Year) ---------------------------------------------------------- City of Houston | 82 | 81 (2009) Houston Hobby | 81 | 80 (2020) Galveston | 85 | 83 (2021) College Station | 80 | 80 (2009) Palacios | 84 | 83 (2020) Climate Site | Max Temp | Record High Temp (Year) ----------------------------------------------------- City of Houston | 105 | 101 (1998) Houston Hobby | 104 | 100 (1964) Galveston | 96 | 96 (1931) College Station | 111 | 109 (1917) Palacios | 95 | 99 (2005) As astute followers of Southeast Texas climate will know (or anyone who takes a quick glance at the tables should be able to infer), record high min temperatures in this area have fallen at a pretty rapidly clip this century. The afternoon high temperature records have not been falling at quite the same pace, so to have a day where so many records at both ends of the day fall really speaks to just how extreme this July 10 is in the historical record. To really drive it home, College Station`s high of 111 is the second highest max temperature on record, going back to 1888. It is only one degree off the all-time record high temperature for the city, which was recorded on September 4, 2000. It is the hottest July day on record for College Station, eclipsing the 110 mark last seen on July 11, 1917. Houston`s 105 degree mark matches the July record mark, last seen July 26, 1954. However, it is not the hottest mark so early in the year, as June 29, 2013 did reach 107. It also is "only" the 17th hottest day in the official record for the city. Hobby`s 104 degree high does put it in the top 10 all time, tying it for 8th. But it is neither a record mark for July, nor for so early in the year, as it fell one degree short of July 8, 1939 (and also June 29, 2013). Persistent onshore flow meant that while Galveston still saw a daily record today, it fell fairly far down the all-time record ledger. Its high of 96 is not good enough for even the top 50 all- time, and only good for tenth on the list of July records. This is mainly because the really extreme days at Galveston tend to come when onshore winds are suppressed, and can really spike when offshore westerlies can advect some hotter, mainland air over the Island. Finally, newcomer Palacios just couldn`t keep pace with the more established first order climate sites. It did manage to set a new record high minimum temperature yesterday, but fell four degrees short of its record high from 2005. Like Galveston, Palacios` location very near the water likely moderated afternoon highs slightly, keeping the site from really threatening those record highs. It seems the background zeitgeist is really becoming numb to the summer heat stuff... How many times can a person read or hear a headline espousing dire heat, ...while sitting in or near access to environmentally controlled option? Eventually it's compartmentalize for later consideration when it comes to time. 'Okay - it's part of global warming' as they return to the pressing attention of the moment, 'whatdya want me to do about it?' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dendrite Posted July 11, 2022 Share Posted July 11, 2022 12z gfs is getting a little more aggressive with these cool shots...the one this week and a sneaky sorta backdoor next week that at least lowers the humidity a bit. Then we're in lalaland with alternating heat and weaker cold fronts, but it's probably a reminder to not stray too far from persistence just yet. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Typhoon Tip Posted July 11, 2022 Share Posted July 11, 2022 7 minutes ago, dendrite said: 12z gfs is getting a little more aggressive with these cool shots...the one this week and a sneaky sorta backdoor next week that at least lowers the humidity a bit. Then we're in lalaland with alternating heat and weaker cold fronts, but it's probably a reminder to not stray too far from persistence just yet. The one at the end of the run is a sub 564 dm phaser though - It's lala time range like you say, but this model won't relent until it succeeds autumn on August 3rd and the seasons first synoptic snow by the 20th Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Typhoon Tip Posted July 11, 2022 Share Posted July 11, 2022 We shouldn't be surprised... I've been ranting about it for over a month... every 2 .. 3rd day, the models try to usurp the pattern and remove the SE Can flow nadir - Euro's 00z run may be the most egregious example of that yet. Only to have this same 12z GFS routine just cancel the effort. I dunno - I did see more individual GEF members biting on this pattern change thing. I can also see an argument for the GFS being too R-wave happy in that range ...a necessary artifact for its bias to accumulate too much cold heights/gradient out in time. So not ready to pull the plug but it's like Brian said... keep persistence in mind - 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoth Posted July 11, 2022 Share Posted July 11, 2022 1 hour ago, dendrite said: Don't those beach grasses brown and go to seed quickly? They've evolved to grow in sand and tolerate legit droughts. I was gonna say, my experience with that type of grass has been that it's nearly always brown. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
powderfreak Posted July 11, 2022 Share Posted July 11, 2022 Was today supposed to be the start of something hot and humid? 82/54 off a low of 48F. Hopefully tomorrows FROPA cools us off? That 79/55 at ORH must be rough for the 1K foot dwellers. CON at 84/48… hot and 29% RH is how one runs a summer day. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whineminster Posted July 11, 2022 Share Posted July 11, 2022 20 minutes ago, powderfreak said: Was today supposed to be the start of something hot and humid? 82/54 off a low of 48F. Hopefully tomorrows FROPA cools us off? That 79/55 at ORH must be rough for the 1K foot dwellers. CON at 84/48… hot and 29% RH is how one runs a summer day. It's all fun and games now but come winter when the Arctic hounds arrive and you're wearing 6 hoods riding that chairlift, you'll wish you had some HHH days to think back on to warm your soul. Instead you'll be thinking about wearing hoods in summer, and launching icicles down on skiers below with rage. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Typhoon Tip Posted July 11, 2022 Share Posted July 11, 2022 Looked to me like 86 to ping 88's in the area, and that's what's happening across the NWS sites. The home stations are all 134 but that's typical on a sunny day of wizardly awareness to the necessity for environmental awareness/calibration consistent with garden variety enthusiasts .. kidding, but the DP's supposed to shed in late - admittedly though...not seeing that very convincingly, upstream. EWR is still 88/57 so not exactly at the doorstop yet. Still, the steady advection probably works with surface based radiation to keep us elevated over previous nights and tomorrow will be steamier. Not sure about NNE per se, but this forum's too f'n big Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scoob40 Posted July 11, 2022 Share Posted July 11, 2022 37 minutes ago, powderfreak said: Was today supposed to be the start of something hot and humid? 82/54 off a low of 48F. Hopefully tomorrows FROPA cools us off? That 79/55 at ORH must be rough for the 1K foot dwellers. CON at 84/48… hot and 29% RH is how one runs a summer day. 90 at BAF though. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
powderfreak Posted July 11, 2022 Share Posted July 11, 2022 38 minutes ago, Whineminster said: It's all fun and games now but come winter when the Arctic hounds arrive and you're wearing 6 hoods riding that chairlift, you'll wish you had some HHH days to think back on to warm your soul. Instead you'll be thinking about wearing hoods in summer, and launching icicles down on skiers below with rage. It’s plenty warm/hot. Shorts and t-shirt weather daily even up to the summit. Its just the lack of dews this year so far that’s been so pleasant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
powderfreak Posted July 11, 2022 Share Posted July 11, 2022 21 minutes ago, Typhoon Tip said: Looked to me like 86 to ping 88's in the area, and that's what's happening across the NWS sites. The home stations are all 134 but that's typical on a sunny day of wizardly awareness to the necessity for environmental awareness/calibration consistent with garden variety enthusiasts .. kidding, but the DP's supposed to shed in late - admittedly though...not seeing that very convincingly, upstream. EWR is still 88/57 so not exactly at the doorstop yet. Still, the steady advection probably works with surface based radiation to keep us elevated over previous nights and tomorrow will be steamier. Not sure about NNE per se, but this forum's too f'n big Agreed, there’s a period of pre-frontal dews coming tonight. We’ll get it up here but if it’s like the season playbook locally up here we’ll pinch off low/mid-60s dews for 12 hours immediately ahead of the FROPA. This evening will have a more elevated summer vibe with the SW flow stopping quick cooling. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
powderfreak Posted July 11, 2022 Share Posted July 11, 2022 21 minutes ago, scoob40 said: 90 at BAF though. Saw BDL was like 10F hotter than ORH. Like 88F BDL but 31% RH. Its plenty hot but the dews seem to be lagging. Figured today would be more heat index style to be honest. Maybe it’s more tonight and tomorrow morning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weatherwiz Posted July 11, 2022 Share Posted July 11, 2022 1 minute ago, powderfreak said: Saw BDL was like 10F hotter than ORH. Like 88F BDL but 31% RH. Its plenty hot but the dews seem to be lagging. Figured today would be more heat index style to be honest. Maybe it’s more tonight and tomorrow morning. Dewpoints weren't really supposed to start increasing until overnight or moreso towards pre-dawn. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sey-Mour Snow Posted July 11, 2022 Share Posted July 11, 2022 1 hour ago, Typhoon Tip said: We shouldn't be surprised... I've been ranting about it for over a month... every 2 .. 3rd day, the models try to usurp the pattern and remove the SE Can flow nadir - Euro's 00z run may be the most egregious example of that yet. Only to have this same 12z GFS routine just cancel the effort. I dunno - I did see more individual GEF members biting on this pattern change thing. I can also see an argument for the GFS being too R-wave happy in that range ...a necessary artifact for its bias to accumulate too much cold heights/gradient out in time. So not ready to pull the plug but it's like Brian said... keep persistence in mind - Yup Euro 12z much cooler than 00z. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian5671 Posted July 11, 2022 Share Posted July 11, 2022 Boring, but nice summer so far... 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HIPPYVALLEY Posted July 11, 2022 Share Posted July 11, 2022 84/54. The RH in my living room is 42% I wouldn’t mind a few weeks of this weather. The ground around here is pretty baked. I have not seen the rivers this low in a long time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoth Posted July 11, 2022 Share Posted July 11, 2022 Heavenly. More of this, please. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mreaves Posted July 11, 2022 Share Posted July 11, 2022 2 hours ago, powderfreak said: Was today supposed to be the start of something hot and humid? 82/54 off a low of 48F. Hopefully tomorrows FROPA cools us off? That 79/55 at ORH must be rough for the 1K foot dwellers. CON at 84/48… hot and 29% RH is how one runs a summer day. All kidding aside, we played in a pro-am at Country Club of VT today and it felt pretty hot. My car thermo said 84° when I was leaving. Not quite as hot as I thought it was going to be. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damage In Tolland Posted July 11, 2022 Share Posted July 11, 2022 1 hour ago, Sey-Mour Snow said: Yup Euro 12z much cooler than 00z. Looks furnace and dewy all next week 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lava Rock Posted July 11, 2022 Share Posted July 11, 2022 14 minutes ago, Damage In Tolland said: Looks furnace and dewy all next week seems like this is said every week Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dendrite Posted July 11, 2022 Share Posted July 11, 2022 3 hours ago, powderfreak said: It’s plenty warm/hot. Shorts and t-shirt weather daily even up to the summit. Its just the lack of dews this year so far that’s been so pleasant. Yeah it feels like that mountain west heat like in WY/MT where it’s pleasant nights and then it shoots up into the 80s with low dews pretty quickly. Rinse, repeat. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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