spring banter

[North and West]

my heart goes out to all the tomatoes getting planted this week

ALWAYS too early. Always. It happens every year.

Mother’s Day is my yardstick for tomatoes and peppers.


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[BxEngine]

Im sunburned. Bring back winter

[rclab]

32 minutes ago, BxEngine said:

Im sunburned. Bring back winter

I’m old. Bring back anything. As always ….

[Brian5671]

Minot ND has been reporting heavy snow almost every hour since 1am today

13	18:56	NW 32 G 40	0.06	Heavy Snow and Windy	VV002	25	24			96%	8	NA	29.57	1004.7			0.12
13	17:56	NW 26 G 35	0.06	Heavy Snow and Windy	VV002	25	24			96%	9	NA	29.57	1004.7
13	16:56	NW 25 G 37	0.06	Heavy Snow and Breezy	VV001	25	24			96%	9	NA	29.55	1004.7
13	15:56	NW 20 G 39	0.06	Heavy Snow	VV001	25	24			96%	11	NA	29.57	1004.7
13	14:56	NW 30 G 37	0.06	Heavy Snow and Windy	VV002	25	24			96%	8	NA	29.57	1004.7
13	13:56	N 21 G 36	0.13	Heavy Snow and Breezy	VV011	25	24			96%	10	NA	29.57	1004.7
13	12:56	N 26 G 35	0.13	Heavy Snow and Windy	VV011	25	13	25	24	61%	9	NA	29.48	1001.2			0.80
13	11:56	N 15 G 28	0.13	Heavy Snow	VV005	25	13			60%	13	NA	29.51	1002.3
13	10:55	N 15 G 29	0.13	Heavy Snow	VV006	24	13			61%	11	NA	29.52	1002.6
13	09:56	N 12 G 18	0.13	Heavy Snow	OVC002	25	24			96%	14	NA	29.61	1006.0
13	08:56	N 9	0.13	Heavy Snow	OVC002	24	23			97%	14	NA	29.64	1006.9
13	07:56	N 15 G 24	0.13	Heavy Snow	OVC005	24	23			96%	11	NA	29.65	1007.3
13	06:57	N 14 G 24	0.25	Heavy Snow	OVC005	23	22	24	22	96%	11	NA	29.67	1007.9			1.90
13	05:55	N 17 G 24	0.25	Heavy Snow	OVC005	22	22			96%	8	NA	29.69	1008.8
13	04:56	N 17 G 29	0.25	Heavy Snow	OVC005	21	21			100%	7	NA	29.71	NA
13	03:56	N 12 G 23	0.50	Snow	OVC005	22	11			64%	10	NA	29.71	1009.1
13	02:56	N 14 G 23	0.25	Heavy Snow	OVC005	22	11			64%	9	NA	29.71	1009.1
13	01:56	N 16 G 24	0.50	Snow	OVC005	22	11			63%	8	NA	29.73	1009.

[STORMANLI]

On 4/13/2022 at 6:30 PM, rclab said:

I’m old. Bring back anything. As always ….

[LibertyBell]

I've been planning out my eclipse chase for Monday April 8th 2024 and the best place to go for me is going to be either Syracuse or Watertown.  I'm going to start out at Wilkes Barre, PA after driving there from my PA house and getting on I-81.  Syracuse only has 1 min of 29 min totality but is about an hour closer from PA than Watertown is, but for that extra travel time I get 3 min and 39 sec of totality!  I wonder if eclipse totality looks any different from the edge of the totality zone to being right in the middle of it?  Either way if I'm going to drive 2hours 19min, I might as well drive 3hours 22min.   The eclipse starts at 3:22 pm at both places.  I was surprised to see the average high temp on that date for Syracuse is 54!  That's pretty nice, I wonder what the average high temp for that day is in Watertown?  Obviously cloud cover matters the most, and Syracuse might have a higher chance of clear skies than Watertown, which is right by Lake Ontario?

 

I figured I should leave my house around 10 AM, 1 hour to get to I-81 in Wilkes Barre, and then 4 more hours to get to whichever of those places, get there by 3 PM at the latest.

[Juliancolton]

One benefit of being near the edge of totality is longer view of the chromosphere and any prominences. But you'll really want to have a couple backup targets somewhere SW of Carbondale if you have the means to travel. Upstate NY will be a nice place to visit with a 30% chance of seeing a solar eclipse.

All that being said, if it's clear in the area, heading north on the morning of the event will be an absolute joke. Parking lots on Interstates and side-roads alike.

[Nibor]

2 hours ago, Juliancolton said:

One benefit of being near the edge of totality is longer view of the chromosphere and any prominences. But you'll really want to have a couple backup targets somewhere SW of Carbondale if you have the means to travel. Upstate NY will be a nice place to visit with a 30% chance of seeing a solar eclipse.

All that being said, if it's clear in the area, heading north on the morning of the event will be an absolute joke. Parking lots on Interstates and side-roads alike.

My family has a house up state along the path of totality. Shit's gonna be lit.

[LibertyBell]

8 hours ago, Juliancolton said:

One benefit of being near the edge of totality is longer view of the chromosphere and any prominences. But you'll really want to have a couple backup targets somewhere SW of Carbondale if you have the means to travel. Upstate NY will be a nice place to visit with a 30% chance of seeing a solar eclipse.

All that being said, if it's clear in the area, heading north on the morning of the event will be an absolute joke. Parking lots on Interstates and side-roads alike.

Yes that's what I'm worried about.  I think I might need to leave at the break of dawn around 5 AM lol.  Also wondering what the weather will be like then, April doesn't usually have the best weather....then again it also has the most variability of any month, anything between 30s to 90s and from clear to rainy to a raging blizzard.  I hope things work out in 2024.  Is my thought on not going all the way up to Watertown because it's usually cloudier up by Lake Ontario correct?

 

 

[LibertyBell]

So the Yankee game was delayed 45 min because of large hail falling in Baltimore.  First time I've ever seen a hail delay.  It was comical seeing the broadcasters wondering how it was "snowing" when it was so warm outside and then Kay had the line of the night when he was told it was actually hail, he asked "But isn't it too warm to hail?" LOL

[Juliancolton]

On 4/17/2022 at 12:26 AM, LibertyBell said:

Yes that's what I'm worried about.  I think I might need to leave at the break of dawn around 5 AM lol.  Also wondering what the weather will be like then, April doesn't usually have the best weather....then again it also has the most variability of any month, anything between 30s to 90s and from clear to rainy to a raging blizzard.  I hope things work out in 2024.  Is my thought on not going all the way up to Watertown because it's usually cloudier up by Lake Ontario correct?

This is a helpful resource. I'm sure you know all the caveats about climo averages, so not much use basing chase day details on this, but it does seem like the lakes correlate with a relative average cloudiness minimum from around Sandusky to Potsdam. It's interesting that CLE's odds aren't much worse than DFW.

[LibertyBell]

1 hour ago, Juliancolton said:

This is a helpful resource. I'm sure you know all the caveats about climo averages, so not much use basing chase day details on this, but it does seem like the lakes correlate with a relative average cloudiness minimum from around Sandusky to Potsdam. It's interesting that CLE's odds aren't much worse than DFW.

Wow what a resource, thanks so much Julian!  I see why you mentioned going to SW NYS lol.  Rochester seems to be a state minimum.  Do you see that second dip east of Rochester and south of Watertown?  Do you think that might be Syracuse or near it?  It's curious that Syracuse wasn't labeled on this graph-- it's a much larger city than Watertown is!  Right now I'm thinking somewhere between Syracuse and Watertown on I-81 but that could change depending on weather.  What do you think is a good time to start out on I-81 at Wilkes Barre, PA?

 

[Santa Claus]

i love rain

[rclab]

12 hours ago, Will - Rutgers said:

i love rain

Good evening Will. These words by BJ Thomas compliment your post…….    ”Cause I’m never gonna stop the rain by complaining. Because I’m free. Nothings worrying me.” Stay well, as always …

[LibertyBell]

7 hours ago, Will - Rutgers said:

i love rain

Purple Rain

 

[rclab]

3 hours ago, LibertyBell said:

Purple Rain

 

Good morning Liberty. On a quiet summers night with a gentle breeze ….. for me it’s “ speak to me softly, like the rain”. Now that I’m alone it’s only a memory. As always …

[forkyfork]

 

[Rjay]

Your typical tornado outbreak in eastern North Dakota in April.  

[gravitylover]

2 hours ago, forkyfork said:

 

I went there last year, that place is beautiful. 

[Rjay]

Nws vs weenie, re: the first blizzard

 

 

Public Information Statement
National Weather Service Bismarck ND
718 PM CDT Tue Apr 19 2022 /618 PM MDT Tue Apr 19 2022/

...MINOT SNOWFALL FROM LAST WEEKS BLIZZARD...

A report of particular interest from the recent blizzard was a 36.0
inch snowfall total from the Minot area. While there is inherent
difficulty in snow measurements when heavy snow combines with high
winds, there is no reason to doubt this as a reasonable estimate
based on the number of measurements and pictures this observer
provided to NWS Bismarck.

However, records for the official Minot climate data have to be
taken at the official observing site, by official observers. An NWS
Cooperative Observer is the official snowfall reporter for Minot. In
order to ensure a reliable climate record, even valid public reports
from other locations cannot be used to assign new records. The
distance between the Minot Cooperative Observer, which reported 20.0
inches for the event, and the 36.0 inch report is nearly 6 miles,
which is an additional factor that complicates the comparison
between public snow reports and the continuity of consistent record
from the Minot climate data. While the 36.0 inch public report from
the Minot area is a valid report, it cannot be used to break the
existing Minot snowfall record. That record is 34.0 inches with a
storm that ended on April 28, 1984, which was established at the
official climate site in Minot.

Regardless, this was a significant storm for western and central
North Dakota. Several counties in western and central North Dakota
did set one-day, two-day, and three-day snowfall records, even
though Ward County and Minot were not on that list. Details on the
records that were set can be found at
weather.gov/bis/April2022Blizzard

[rclab]

22 minutes ago, Rjay said:

Nws vs weenie, re: the first blizzard

 

 

Public Information Statement
National Weather Service Bismarck ND
718 PM CDT Tue Apr 19 2022 /618 PM MDT Tue Apr 19 2022/

...MINOT SNOWFALL FROM LAST WEEKS BLIZZARD...

A report of particular interest from the recent blizzard was a 36.0
inch snowfall total from the Minot area. While there is inherent
difficulty in snow measurements when heavy snow combines with high
winds, there is no reason to doubt this as a reasonable estimate
based on the number of measurements and pictures this observer
provided to NWS Bismarck.

However, records for the official Minot climate data have to be
taken at the official observing site, by official observers. An NWS
Cooperative Observer is the official snowfall reporter for Minot. In
order to ensure a reliable climate record, even valid public reports
from other locations cannot be used to assign new records. The
distance between the Minot Cooperative Observer, which reported 20.0
inches for the event, and the 36.0 inch report is nearly 6 miles,
which is an additional factor that complicates the comparison
between public snow reports and the continuity of consistent record
from the Minot climate data. While the 36.0 inch public report from
the Minot area is a valid report, it cannot be used to break the
existing Minot snowfall record. That record is 34.0 inches with a
storm that ended on April 28, 1984, which was established at the
official climate site in Minot.

Regardless, this was a significant storm for western and central
North Dakota. Several counties in western and central North Dakota
did set one-day, two-day, and three-day snowfall records, even
though Ward County and Minot were not on that list. Details on the
records that were set can be found at
weather.gov/bis/April2022Blizzard

Good afternoon, RJay. I shudder to imagine the fun time contention if CPK was located in that area. Stay well, as always ……

[LibertyBell]

2 hours ago, Rjay said:

Nws vs weenie, re: the first blizzard

 

 

Public Information Statement
National Weather Service Bismarck ND
718 PM CDT Tue Apr 19 2022 /618 PM MDT Tue Apr 19 2022/

...MINOT SNOWFALL FROM LAST WEEKS BLIZZARD...

A report of particular interest from the recent blizzard was a 36.0
inch snowfall total from the Minot area. While there is inherent
difficulty in snow measurements when heavy snow combines with high
winds, there is no reason to doubt this as a reasonable estimate
based on the number of measurements and pictures this observer
provided to NWS Bismarck.

However, records for the official Minot climate data have to be
taken at the official observing site, by official observers. An NWS
Cooperative Observer is the official snowfall reporter for Minot. In
order to ensure a reliable climate record, even valid public reports
from other locations cannot be used to assign new records. The
distance between the Minot Cooperative Observer, which reported 20.0
inches for the event, and the 36.0 inch report is nearly 6 miles,
which is an additional factor that complicates the comparison
between public snow reports and the continuity of consistent record
from the Minot climate data. While the 36.0 inch public report from
the Minot area is a valid report, it cannot be used to break the
existing Minot snowfall record. That record is 34.0 inches with a
storm that ended on April 28, 1984, which was established at the
official climate site in Minot.

Regardless, this was a significant storm for western and central
North Dakota. Several counties in western and central North Dakota
did set one-day, two-day, and three-day snowfall records, even
though Ward County and Minot were not on that list. Details on the
records that were set can be found at
weather.gov/bis/April2022Blizzard

that said, even the pros make mistakes and then the measurements are adjusted accordingly (see the 2009-10 snowfall record at Baltimore or the measurement errors from the Jan 2016 blizzard.)

 

[uncle W]

many weenies became observers....even mets...

[uncle W]

May heat waves for NYC...

1880.....25th-27th...95 95 96

1896.....9th-11th......91 92 91

1914.....26th-28th...94 95 87

1930.....5th-7th.......89 91 91

1931.....28th-30th...90 93 90

1936.....8th-9th.......91 92

1939.....28th-31st...90 90 89 96

1941.....22nd-23rd...96 90

1949.....5th-6th.......90 92

1959.....20th-22nd...91 89 91

1962.....18th-20th...89 99 90

1964.....23rd-24th...94 91

1965.....26th-27th...94 92

1969.....29th-31st...97 90 87

1970.....9th-11th......90 93 88

1979.....9th-10th.....94 94

1986.....29th-31st...88 94 93

1987.....29th-31st...96 97 94

1991.....27th-31st...89 90 89 90 91

1992.....21st-23rd...89 93 92

1996.....19th-21st....89 96 93

2000.....6th-9th......89 93 91 91

2001.....2nd-4th.....90 90 92

2016.....26th-29th..90 87 92 87

2017.....17th-19th...90 92 91

2018.....2nd-3rd.....90 92

 

 

[nycwinter]

a beautiful morning cool  with a nice breeze perfect!!

[LibertyBell]

37 minutes ago, uncle W said:

May heat waves for NYC...

1880.....25th-27th...95 95 96

1896.....9th-11th......91 92 91

1914.....26th-28th...94 95 87

1930.....5th-7th.......89 91 91

1931.....28th-30th...90 93 90

1936.....8th-9th.......91 92

1939.....28th-31st...90 90 89 96

1941.....22nd-23rd...96 90

1949.....5th-6th.......90 92

1959.....20th-22nd...91 89 91

1962.....18th-20th...89 99 90

1964.....23rd-24th...94 91

1965.....26th-27th...94 92

1969.....29th-31st...97 90 87

1970.....9th-11th......90 93 88

1979.....9th-10th.....94 94

1986.....29th-31st...88 94 93

1987.....29th-31st...96 97 94

1991.....27th-31st...89 90 89 90 91

1992.....21st-23rd...89 93 92

1996.....19th-21st....89 96 93

2000.....6th-9th......89 93 91 91

2001.....2nd-4th.....90 90 92

2016.....26th-29th..90 87 92 87

2017.....17th-19th...90 92 91

2018.....2nd-3rd.....90 92

 

 

None of these were more impressive than our April heatwaves in 1976 and 2002

[LibertyBell]

34 minutes ago, nycwinter said:

a beautiful morning cool  with a nice breeze perfect!!

you dont miss the sun huh

sunny days are the best-- regardless of temp

 

[nycwinter]

8 minutes ago, LibertyBell said:

you dont miss the sun huh

sunny days are the best-- regardless of temp

 

the sun is to bright for me...

[STORMANLI]

1 hour ago, uncle W said:

May heat waves for NYC...

1880.....25th-27th...95 95 96

1896.....9th-11th......91 92 91

1914.....26th-28th...94 95 87

1930.....5th-7th.......89 91 91

1931.....28th-30th...90 93 90

1936.....8th-9th.......91 92

1939.....28th-31st...90 90 89 96

1941.....22nd-23rd...96 90

1949.....5th-6th.......90 92

1959.....20th-22nd...91 89 91

1962.....18th-20th...89 99 90

1964.....23rd-24th...94 91

1965.....26th-27th...94 92

1969.....29th-31st...97 90 87

1970.....9th-11th......90 93 88

1979.....9th-10th.....94 94

1986.....29th-31st...88 94 93

1987.....29th-31st...96 97 94

1991.....27th-31st...89 90 89 90 91

1992.....21st-23rd...89 93 92

1996.....19th-21st....89 96 93

2000.....6th-9th......89 93 91 91

2001.....2nd-4th.....90 90 92

2016.....26th-29th..90 87 92 87

2017.....17th-19th...90 92 91

2018.....2nd-3rd.....90 92

 

 

Remember 1996 because one of the days before it I recorded a low of 44° and that was in Queens.

[uncle W]

2 minutes ago, STORMANLI said:

Remember 1996 because one of the days before it I recorded a low of 44° and that was in Queens.

I remember 1962 going to baseball practice in 99 degree temps...in 1969 I played a softball game in Central Park against CBS news with Jim Jensen Pitching in 97 degree heat...I hit a triple and home run off him but we lost anyway...