MJO812 Posted February 22, 2022 Share Posted February 22, 2022 7 minutes ago, mikem81 said: Usually a HP sliding east of Maine into the Atlantic is the sign of no snow. I see a HP in perfect position on all the models here and hints at earlier coastal development... This is why I think this continues to trend colder 3 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJO812 Posted February 22, 2022 Share Posted February 22, 2022 15 minutes ago, SnoSki14 said: I wouldn't get my hopes up if you're expecting snow. I'm thinking ZR/Sleet to rain for anyone south of I-78 including the city. The high is pretty strong up north. It's not shifting east when the storm comes up. How is a weak low plowing into a high? 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LibertyBell Posted February 22, 2022 Share Posted February 22, 2022 22 minutes ago, SnoSki14 said: I wouldn't get my hopes up if you're expecting snow. I'm thinking ZR/Sleet to rain for anyone south of I-78 including the city. the city isn't south of I-78, you must mean south of I-80 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doorman Posted February 22, 2022 Share Posted February 22, 2022 EPS trend prog 6 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BxEngine Posted February 22, 2022 Share Posted February 22, 2022 50 minutes ago, SnoSki14 said: I wouldn't get my hopes up if you're expecting snow. I'm thinking ZR/Sleet to rain for anyone south of I-78 including the city. I know this is gonna take this way the eff off topic again…but are you sure you know where I78 is? 2 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SnoSki14 Posted February 22, 2022 Share Posted February 22, 2022 1 minute ago, BxEngine said: I know this is gonna take this way the eff off topic again…but are you sure you know where I78 is? South of Newark Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BxEngine Posted February 22, 2022 Share Posted February 22, 2022 1 minute ago, SnoSki14 said: South of Newark So you know that a lot of nyc geographically, is in fact not south of 78? Just making sure here. Lol 4 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sn0w Posted February 22, 2022 Share Posted February 22, 2022 4 hours ago, snowman19 said: It doesn’t look colder in the midlevels, they are torched, that’s why it barely has any snow at all south of I-84 You've mentioned barely any snow at all south of 84 a few times now. NWS most recent map has me in 4-5 inches, and I am south of 84. Can you please reach out and make sure they correct their map so the public is not led astray? Thank you! 2 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
romba Posted February 22, 2022 Share Posted February 22, 2022 6 minutes ago, sn0w said: You've mentioned barely any snow at all south of 84 a few times now. NWS most recent map has me in 4-5 inches, and I am south of 84. Can you please reach out and make sure they correct their map so the public is not led astray? Thank you! you bout to get weenie tagged pal, consider it an honor 3 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HVSnowLover Posted February 22, 2022 Share Posted February 22, 2022 48 minutes ago, BxEngine said: So you know that a lot of nyc geographically, is in fact not south of 78? Just making sure here. Lol Normally I think it would reasonable to assume what NYC gets would be similar to a little south of I78 in NJ but this system is more latitude dependent than longitude so NYC should fair better than south of I78 in NJ. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HVSnowLover Posted February 22, 2022 Share Posted February 22, 2022 33 minutes ago, sn0w said: You've mentioned barely any snow at all south of 84 a few times now. NWS most recent map has me in 4-5 inches, and I am south of 84. Can you please reach out and make sure they correct their map so the public is not led astray? Thank you! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brasiluvsnow Posted February 22, 2022 Share Posted February 22, 2022 I usually come here for the weather insight but today is quite special as I am getting Geography at no extra charge ,, now back to our regularly scheduled program 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BxEngine Posted February 22, 2022 Share Posted February 22, 2022 34 minutes ago, HVSnowLover said: Normally I think it would reasonable to assume what NYC gets would be similar to a little south of I78 in NJ but this system is more latitude dependent than longitude so NYC should fair better than south of I78 in NJ. I fully expect this to be slop with no real accumulations until north of me….but ive been wrong before. Once. also a reminder, snow totals arent measured on roads, nor over manhole covers on 53rd street, nor on a block of ice metsfan saves for these occasions. So it may in fact be measurable snow, as is often the case in later season storms, that doesnt really affect roads/commute. But since this is a weather forum, and not a traffic forum, we discuss the actual weather, not just its effects on our lives. 4 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wishcast_hater Posted February 22, 2022 Share Posted February 22, 2022 7 minutes ago, BxEngine said: I fully expect this to be slop with no real accumulations until north of me….but ive been wrong before. Once. also a reminder, snow totals arent measured on roads, nor over manhole covers on 53rd street, nor on a block of ice metsfan saves for these occasions. So it may in fact be measurable snow, as is often the case in later season storms, that doesnt really affect roads/commute. But since this is a weather forum, and not a traffic forum, we discuss the actual weather, not just its effects on our lives. Lol a block of ice metsfan saves. That’s classic. It is interesting though that we only measure the snow that actually accumulates rather than what falls. We don’t do that with rain. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeadInTheClouds Posted February 22, 2022 Share Posted February 22, 2022 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJO812 Posted February 22, 2022 Share Posted February 22, 2022 22 minutes ago, BxEngine said: I fully expect this to be slop with no real accumulations until north of me….but ive been wrong before. Once. also a reminder, snow totals arent measured on roads, nor over manhole covers on 53rd street, nor on a block of ice metsfan saves for these occasions. So it may in fact be measurable snow, as is often the case in later season storms, that doesnt really affect roads/commute. But since this is a weather forum, and not a traffic forum, we discuss the actual weather, not just its effects on our lives. I wish I had my own block of ice 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rclab Posted February 22, 2022 Share Posted February 22, 2022 31 minutes ago, BxEngine said: I fully expect this to be slop with no real accumulations until north of me….but ive been wrong before. Once. also a reminder, snow totals arent measured on roads, nor over manhole covers on 53rd street, nor on a block of ice metsfan saves for these occasions. So it may in fact be measurable snow, as is often the case in later season storms, that doesnt really affect roads/commute. But since this is a weather forum, and not a traffic forum, we discuss the actual weather, not just its effects on our lives. Good evening BxE and noted. For some of us the weather is our lives. I’ll be disappointed if your first two sentences fail to garner multiple responses. As always …. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rclab Posted February 22, 2022 Share Posted February 22, 2022 2 minutes ago, Doorman said: a can someone tell me how to shovel double digit slop......... asking for a friend on the jersey border Good evening Doorman. A question best answered by a porcine farmer. I remember, fondly, your original avatar. Some of us will always try to keep that door open. Stay well, as always …. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HVSnowLover Posted February 22, 2022 Share Posted February 22, 2022 47 minutes ago, BxEngine said: I fully expect this to be slop with no real accumulations until north of me….but ive been wrong before. Once. also a reminder, snow totals arent measured on roads, nor over manhole covers on 53rd street, nor on a block of ice metsfan saves for these occasions. So it may in fact be measurable snow, as is often the case in later season storms, that doesnt really affect roads/commute. But since this is a weather forum, and not a traffic forum, we discuss the actual weather, not just its effects on our lives. How do we define real accumulations? I think at least 1-3 inches is pretty likely for most of the subforum, I'm tempted to say 3-6 between I80 and I84 but not sure still on the mid level warming. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CPcantmeasuresnow Posted February 22, 2022 Share Posted February 22, 2022 1 hour ago, BxEngine said: I fully expect this to be slop with no real accumulations until north of me….but ive been wrong before. Once. also a reminder, snow totals arent measured on roads, nor over manhole covers on 53rd street, nor on a block of ice metsfan saves for these occasions. So it may in fact be measurable snow, as is often the case in later season storms, that doesnt really affect roads/commute. But since this is a weather forum, and not a traffic forum, we discuss the actual weather, not just its effects on our lives. Please call the incompetents measuring in Central Park this year and remind them. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluewave Posted February 22, 2022 Share Posted February 22, 2022 35 minutes ago, HVSnowLover said: How do we define real accumulations? I think at least 1-3 inches is pretty likely for most of the subforum, I'm tempted to say 3-6 between I80 and I84 but not sure still on the mid level warming. 2003 to 2022 Coating to 6…Light 6-12…………Moderate 12-24………Heavy 24-36………Real Accumulations 1979 to 1993 Coating to 3….Light 3-6…………Moderate 6-12…….…Heavy 12-24……..Real Accumulations 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HVSnowLover Posted February 22, 2022 Share Posted February 22, 2022 5 minutes ago, bluewave said: 2003 to 2022 Trace to 6…Light 6-12…………Moderate 12-24………Heavy 24-36………Real Accumulations 1979 1993 1-3…………Light 3-6…………Moderate 6-12…….…Heavy 12-24……..Real Accumulations In that case no one is getting real accumulations with this storm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uncle W Posted February 23, 2022 Share Posted February 23, 2022 3 hours ago, LibertyBell said: this is a very 1993-94 esque storm 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Franklin0529 Posted February 23, 2022 Share Posted February 23, 2022 This ones gonna surprise some people. That high is pretty stout 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jm1220 Posted February 23, 2022 Share Posted February 23, 2022 4 minutes ago, Franklin0529 said: This ones gonna surprise some people. That high is pretty stout I can actually see it not changing to plain rain for NYC and much of LI until perhaps the end or as a dry slot comes in. By that I mean there’s plenty of sleet and some ZR but it’s cold enough to start to keep it non-rain. Unfortunately for snow you want to be in Boston or north of 84. That’s been the case for days and won’t be changing much. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeadInTheClouds Posted February 23, 2022 Share Posted February 23, 2022 6 minutes ago, jm1220 said: I can actually see it not changing to plain rain for NYC and much of LI until perhaps the end or as a dry slot comes in. By that I mean there’s plenty of sleet and some ZR but it’s cold enough to start to keep it non-rain. Unfortunately for snow you want to be in Boston or north of 84. That’s been the case for days and won’t be changing much. Simply not true. There will be 1-4 inches from NYC up to Putnam county and some 1-2 inch type numbers on north shore as well. Now if you mean 6+ then I agree. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HVSnowLover Posted February 23, 2022 Share Posted February 23, 2022 7 minutes ago, HeadInTheClouds said: Simply not true. There will be 1-4 inches from NYC up to Putnam county and some 1-2 inch type numbers on north shore as well. Now if you mean 6+ then I agree. Thats why I asked how real accumulations are defined on here. After seeing how its defined I now understand this is not a snow event for anyone in the subforum. In all seriousness though this is a tough forecast from NYC to I84 due to the mid level situation. Right now I could see anywhere from 1 to 6 inches in this zone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeadInTheClouds Posted February 23, 2022 Share Posted February 23, 2022 Just now, HVSnowLover said: Thats why I asked how real accumulations are defined on here. After seeing how its defined I now understand this is not a snow event for anyone in the subforum. It's not a snow event for anybody in any sub forum lol. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeadInTheClouds Posted February 23, 2022 Share Posted February 23, 2022 4 minutes ago, HVSnowLover said: Thats why I asked how real accumulations are defined on here. After seeing how its defined I now understand this is not a snow event for anyone in the subforum. In all seriousness though this is a tough forecast from NYC to I84 due to the mid level situation. Right now I could see anywhere from 0 to 6 inches in this zone, obviously the closer to I84 the better, the closer to the Atlantic less. I think NWS snow estimates look realistic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HVSnowLover Posted February 23, 2022 Share Posted February 23, 2022 1 minute ago, HeadInTheClouds said: I think NWS snow estimates look realistic. Agree although based on latest guidance I could see even a slight bump up. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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