Kmlwx Posted June 7, 2022 Author Share Posted June 7, 2022 The ensembles are still really liking a persistent NW flow pattern from 240 through the end of the runs. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
high risk Posted June 7, 2022 Share Posted June 7, 2022 A couple of quick thoughts about Wednesday night: We're definitely going to have an interesting convective overnight, as the strong wave lowers heights across the region and increases the shear. If this were occurring during the day, we'd likely have a good shot at some severe, but the after dark arrival of the main forcing reduces that potential. Right now, it looks like the best shear will arrive after the main round of convection, but if we can overlap storms with the improved shear, a few damaging wind gusts or an isolated tornado probably can't be ruled out. For flash flooding potential, the rapidly increasing PW values certainly make it a possibility - my initial thought is that overall dry ground and quick movement of the system will likely limit the flash flooding potential, but it's certainly on the table, especially if there is some lead convection during the late afternoon hours before the main show later at night. 5 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
high risk Posted June 8, 2022 Share Posted June 8, 2022 11 hours ago, high risk said: A couple of quick thoughts about Wednesday night: We're definitely going to have an interesting convective overnight, as the strong wave lowers heights across the region and increases the shear. If this were occurring during the day, we'd likely have a good shot at some severe, but the after dark arrival of the main forcing reduces that potential. Right now, it looks like the best shear will arrive after the main round of convection, but if we can overlap storms with the improved shear, a few damaging wind gusts or an isolated tornado probably can't be ruled out. For flash flooding potential, the rapidly increasing PW values certainly make it a possibility - my initial thought is that overall dry ground and quick movement of the system will likely limit the flash flooding potential, but it's certainly on the table, especially if there is some lead convection during the late afternoon hours before the main show later at night. Timing looks a bit different on the evening guidance. Looks like the main batch of convection will occur more in the 7pm - midnight period. We'll have a bit more instability to work with, but wind profiles look very meh. So widespread severe seems unlikely, but perhaps the flash flooding potential is a bit higher. The bigger question is what happens ahead of the cold front in the early morning hours. Wind profiles will strengthen significantly, and while instability won't be impressive, there might be just enough to favorably interact with the shear. This is probably our better chance for SVR, although the CAMs don't have a lot of storms for that time - the better chance seems to be in northern MD. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nw baltimore wx Posted June 8, 2022 Share Posted June 8, 2022 Hrrr has been showing a decent hit for central MD this evening for a few runs now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
batmanbrad Posted June 8, 2022 Share Posted June 8, 2022 sheesh, I don't know this even qualifies for a "pity meso": https://www.spc.noaa.gov/products/md/md1091.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jewell2188 Posted June 8, 2022 Share Posted June 8, 2022 Looks like a rather meh day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AmericanWxFreak Posted June 8, 2022 Share Posted June 8, 2022 14 minutes ago, batmanbrad said: sheesh, I don't know this even qualifies for a "pity meso": https://www.spc.noaa.gov/products/md/md1091.html Wow that’s one for the meh archives for sure lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
batmanbrad Posted June 8, 2022 Share Posted June 8, 2022 the flood watches recently posted for several counties in MD and VA do indicate that the overnight heavy rain potential should be taken more seriously than the severe wx possibilities... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
high risk Posted June 8, 2022 Share Posted June 8, 2022 The late afternoon / evening seemed to always have limited potential here. Shear is weak, and CAPE is modest; a small amount of downdraft CAPE did admittedly keep the door open for a few wind gusts (and it's probably still open), but it wasn't a strong likelihood. I'm still watching the period much later tonight along the cold front. The HRRR wants to sweep a nice line through northern and perhaps north-central MD. CAPE will be limited due to time of day, but the shear will be much improved. The HRRR is definitely more aggressive than other CAMs with this feature, so we'll see how it plays out. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yoda Posted June 8, 2022 Share Posted June 8, 2022 Some decent hail cores showing up on storms moving into DC metro Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WxUSAF Posted June 8, 2022 Share Posted June 8, 2022 I’m in Ellicott City looking south to the storm over MBY. Some noticeable structure. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eskimo Joe Posted June 8, 2022 Share Posted June 8, 2022 Cell near LaPlata is starting to get "the look". 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlizzardNole Posted June 8, 2022 Share Posted June 8, 2022 This stuff pops up fast! We went from nothing around on radar to heavy rain in a matter of minutes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
batmanbrad Posted June 8, 2022 Share Posted June 8, 2022 Radarscope indicates a TVS signature on that LaPlata cell... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IronTy Posted June 8, 2022 Share Posted June 8, 2022 12 minutes ago, batmanbrad said: Radarscope indicates a TVS signature on that LaPlata cell... Woo hoo, heading right this way. Seems to have dropped out though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aldie 22 Posted June 9, 2022 Share Posted June 9, 2022 It rained some disappointing...hope there's more Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AmericanWxFreak Posted June 9, 2022 Share Posted June 9, 2022 Tornado warning Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amped Posted June 9, 2022 Share Posted June 9, 2022 Just got a Warning in Howard county for a Tornado. There is a couplet though it doesn't appear to be too strong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eskimo Joe Posted June 9, 2022 Share Posted June 9, 2022 2 minutes ago, Amped said: Just got a Warning in Howard county for a Tornado. There is a couplet though it doesn't appear to be too strong. Might (probably) warned off BWI terminal. Just saw an LSR come out of a tree on a house in that area. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southmdwatcher Posted June 9, 2022 Share Posted June 9, 2022 St Mary's supercell has strong mid level rotation Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southmdwatcher Posted June 9, 2022 Share Posted June 9, 2022 St Mary's storm now popped above 50k ft Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eskimo Joe Posted June 9, 2022 Share Posted June 9, 2022 2nd TOR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nw baltimore wx Posted June 9, 2022 Share Posted June 9, 2022 Some of you all owe the hrrr an apology. 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WxUSAF Posted June 9, 2022 Share Posted June 9, 2022 Storm that just popped up near Laurel/Jessup has a supercell shape 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
high risk Posted June 9, 2022 Share Posted June 9, 2022 I still don't understand how we ended up with a few modest supercells in the area. The shear on the 00Z IAD sounding is nothing of note. And the Howard County rotation suddenly emerged at the back edge of the complex that brought torrential rain to that corridor. That cell was definitely not ingesting high theta-e air. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eskimo Joe Posted June 9, 2022 Share Posted June 9, 2022 Howard County took a decent hit tonight: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eskimo Joe Posted June 9, 2022 Share Posted June 9, 2022 Just now, high risk said: I still don't understand how we ended up with a few modest supercells in the area. The shear on the 00Z IAD sounding is nothing of note. And the Howard County rotation suddenly emerged at the back edge of the complex that brought torrential rain to that corridor. That cell was definitely not ingesting high theta-e air. /Mid Atlantic Severe In all honesty, if you take a look at the 0.5 degree reflectivity and velocity in the hour leading up to this event, you'll notice two or three subtle boundaries across Charles, Montgomery, Howard, and Calvert counties. Might have been enough to touch things off tonight. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eskimo Joe Posted June 9, 2022 Share Posted June 9, 2022 //time sensitive// Check out the left moving low topped supercell in Garrett County going clank clank into the Laurel Highlands. https://weather.cod.edu/satrad/?parms=local-Virginia-comp_radar-24-0-100-1&checked=map&colorbar=undefined Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
high risk Posted June 9, 2022 Share Posted June 9, 2022 19 minutes ago, Eskimo Joe said: //time sensitive// Check out the left moving low topped supercell in Garrett County going clank clank into the Laurel Highlands. https://weather.cod.edu/satrad/?parms=local-Virginia-comp_radar-24-0-100-1&checked=map&colorbar=undefined That's a beaut! As I mentioned a bunch of posts back, the shear closer to the shortwave and sfc low is way stronger than what we currently have, and hat shear is going to overspread our area later tonight. The HRRR thinks that instability will fall off too much to sustain the convection and take advantage of the shear, unless you're further north, but I wouldn't be surprised if there are several warnings in the LWX CWA after midnight. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WxUSAF Posted June 9, 2022 Share Posted June 9, 2022 Tree down in my neighborhood 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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