HoarfrostHubb Posted November 25, 2010 Share Posted November 25, 2010 I do not either but looking at the PNS guaranteed Swfe Looks like i was on the 6" line from the old PNS map... I learned something new!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ORH_wxman Posted November 25, 2010 Share Posted November 25, 2010 Looks like i was on the 6" line from the old PNS map... I learned something new!!! That was the MLK event.,..but it was actually 2 events listed on 2 separate PNS reports....you probably had like 9" total or so (6" from event #1) . I had around 7-8" total. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoarfrostHubb Posted November 25, 2010 Share Posted November 25, 2010 That was the MLK event.,..but it was actually 2 events listed on 2 separate PNS reports....you probably had like 9" total or so (6" from event #1) . I had around 7-8" total. Yeah, looks like 6" on 1/18 and 3 or 4" on the 19... I never knew how to find these before. Very neat. LOL at the Feb 25-27 2010 totals near Pete Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginx snewx Posted November 25, 2010 Share Posted November 25, 2010 That was the MLK event.,..but it was actually 2 events listed on 2 separate PNS reports....you probably had like 9" total or so (6" from event #1) . I had around 7-8" total. Trying to remember the setup? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ORH_wxman Posted November 25, 2010 Share Posted November 25, 2010 Trying to remember the setup? http://www.meteo.psu.edu/~gadomski/NARR/2010/us0118.php Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weatherMA Posted November 25, 2010 Share Posted November 25, 2010 That 1/18 storm was the wettest snow in recent years. 4.8" at my lower elevation. Followed by 2" the next day Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoarfrostHubb Posted November 25, 2010 Share Posted November 25, 2010 That 1/18 storm was the wettest snow in recent years. 4.8" at my lower elevation. Followed by 2" the next day Wonder if I snapped a shear pin with that one LOL (hence the shovel standing, mocking me in the cement!) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginx snewx Posted November 25, 2010 Share Posted November 25, 2010 http://www.meteo.psu.edu/~gadomski/NARR/2010/us0118.php Oh yea warm antecedent, 7H cut overhead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weatherMA Posted November 25, 2010 Share Posted November 25, 2010 Wonder if I snapped a shear pin with that one LOL (hence the shovel standing, mocking me in the cement!) Come to think of it maybe I'm thinking of the 2/23 storm which gave Will near a foot and I ended up with like 4 inches. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoarfrostHubb Posted November 25, 2010 Share Posted November 25, 2010 Come to think of it maybe I'm thinking of the 2/23 storm which gave Will near a foot and I ended up with like 4 inches. 2/23-24 of 2010 gave this area a foot - 14" of snow then turned to rain... instant cement. The pic is from 1/18/2009 Part of a medium 1-2 punch Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoarfrostHubb Posted November 25, 2010 Share Posted November 25, 2010 Here is part 2 of the MLK 2009 dual event Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ORH_wxman Posted November 25, 2010 Share Posted November 25, 2010 Oh wow, I didn't even catch the year...I was thinking of 1/18/10...not 1/18/09....but yeah 1/18/09 did produce two separate storms too....they were pretty good. In the 2009 events, I totaled 11" I think....in the 2010 MLK 2 punch setup, I totaled a bit shy of 8". Amazing that the dates matched up exactly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weatherMA Posted November 25, 2010 Share Posted November 25, 2010 2/23-24 of 2010 gave this area a foot - 14" of snow then turned to rain... instant cement. The pic is from 1/18/2009 Part of a medium 1-2 punch Oh, ok. I thought it was from 1/18/10. I should have read the previous posts/looked at the date But ya, 2/23-2/24 was cement but was only 4"' here before it turned to rain. I remember the day before that one saying I was going to get from 1-16" because it was so elevation dependant and no one knew exactly how it would work out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoarfrostHubb Posted November 25, 2010 Share Posted November 25, 2010 MLK seems to give us snow pretty often (or bitter cold) Good skiing other than the crowds Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weatherMA Posted November 25, 2010 Share Posted November 25, 2010 Oh wow, I didn't even catch the year...I was thinking of 1/18/10...not 1/18/09....but yeah 1/18/09 did produce two separate storms too....they were pretty good. In the 2009 events, I totaled 11" I think....in the 2010 MLK 2 punch setup, I totaled a bit shy of 8". Amazing that the dates matched up exactly. lol, i didnt catch the 2009 either. I totaled 7" exactly between the 2 in '10. Not sure about '09. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ORH_wxman Posted November 25, 2010 Share Posted November 25, 2010 lol, i didnt catch the 2009 either. I totaled 7" exactly between the 2 in '10. Not sure about '09. You probably got similar to what I did in 2009. It was a drier snow and no elevation dependency. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginx snewx Posted November 25, 2010 Share Posted November 25, 2010 Oh wow, I didn't even catch the year...I was thinking of 1/18/10...not 1/18/09....but yeah 1/18/09 did produce two separate storms too....they were pretty good. In the 2009 events, I totaled 11" I think....in the 2010 MLK 2 punch setup, I totaled a bit shy of 8". Amazing that the dates matched up exactly. So it was a SWFE http://www.meteo.psu.edu/~gadomski/NARR/2009/us0119.php#picture Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginx snewx Posted November 30, 2010 Share Posted November 30, 2010 Lots of talk about Dec 5 1981 East New England storm. This paper linked here is chock full of info on how it evolved and the role of frontogenic forcing http://journals.ametsoc.org/doi/pdf/10.1175/1520-0493(1986)114%3C1847%3AFASSIA%3E2.0.CO%3B2 MIT radar Bump, Euro today Nov 29 th , at 168 depicted a replay Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoarfrostHubb Posted November 30, 2010 Share Posted November 30, 2010 Bump, Euro today Nov 29 th , at 168 depicted a replay I can't get it to load... I get an error... I will figure it out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted July 13, 2011 Author Share Posted July 13, 2011 Radar matched up pretty well with DS depicted. Notice that heavy band right on the leading edge of the DS. This is a common phenomenon in storms as the DS can cause that narrow swath to become unstable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowNH Posted July 13, 2011 Share Posted July 13, 2011 Jan 12 was probably the most perfect winter storm in New England since I've been following Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ORH_wxman Posted July 13, 2011 Share Posted July 13, 2011 That 500mb pattern is awesome. The vortmax strength was the highest I had seen in a winter storm since 12/9/05. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ORH_wxman Posted July 13, 2011 Share Posted July 13, 2011 You can see how compact the mid-level centers were....and we knew that based on their track that any dryslot would have a very hard time penetrating far past the south coast. You could clearly see it get swallowed up very quickly on this series of radar loops. I remember not being worried about it at all but some were freaking out, lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted July 14, 2011 Author Share Posted July 14, 2011 The DS in many of the storms strangely always ended up pretty close to PVD-TAN-PYM...give or take 10 miles or so. Each storm did track close to the Cape, but very similar placements with the DS. What compact bombs we had. I normally don't like seeing models come so close with the DS, but those mid level low ended up developing rapidly and pinched all that off. Great inflow getting caught up in these circulations as well. This was the winter of mid level lows. Dec 26th, Jan 12th, Jan 21st, and Jan 27th all were nice compact mofos. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ORH_wxman Posted July 14, 2011 Share Posted July 14, 2011 The DS in many of the storms strangely always ended up pretty close to PVD-TAN-PYM...give or take 10 miles or so. Each storm did track close to the Cape, but very similar placements with the DS. What compact bombs we had. I normally don't like seeing models come so close with the DS, but those mid level low ended up developing rapidly and pinched all that off. Great inflow getting caught up in these circulations as well. This was the winter of mid level lows. Dec 26th, Jan 12th, Jan 21st, and Jan 27th all were nice compact mofos. 12/26 had a broader circulation than the other two which hurt us I think. Also having it be further west hurt...and developing a little bit too soon. BOS was hammered by the CF enhancement though in that one so ironically it was their best storm despite that one having us in the least favorable mid-level location. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted July 14, 2011 Author Share Posted July 14, 2011 12/26 had a broader circulation than the other two which hurt us I think. Also having it be further west hurt...and developing a little bit too soon. BOS was hammered by the CF enhancement though in that one so ironically it was their best storm despite that one having us in the least favorable mid-level location. Oh yeah for us it hurt other than near BOS and points sw, but I was thinking more in the broader sense of the northeast in general. 12/26 wasn't compact in that sense, but it had the perfect ingredients in the mid levels to hammer NJ and up into Pete's area. It kept that core of precip very close to the low center, which is what I was thinking of. Jan 12th and 27th both had the mid level lows tucked in perfectly for us..almost better for NYC once again on Jan 27th. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ORH_wxman Posted July 14, 2011 Share Posted July 14, 2011 Oh yeah for us it hurt other than near BOS and points sw, but I was thinking more in the broader sense of the northeast in general. 12/26 wasn't compact in that sense, but it had the perfect ingredients in the mid levels to hammer NJ and up into Pete's area. It kept that core of precip very close to the low center, which is what I was thinking of. I think you had to go more out near the NY border to get the good stuff in W MA. That dryslot even got Mt. MRG. ...FRANKLIN COUNTY... HEATH 8.0 339 PM 12/27 TRAINED SPOTTER CHARLEMONT 7.0 1100 AM 12/27 TRAINED SPOTTER WHATELY 4.5 132 PM 12/27 TRAINED SPOTTER ...HAMPDEN COUNTY... BLANDFORD 9.5 812 AM 12/27 HAM RADIO WESTFIELD 6.8 200 PM 12/27 MEDIA SOUTHWICK 6.8 847 AM 12/28 EAST LONGMEADOW 6.5 830 PM 12/27 HAM RADIO CHICOPEE 5.3 811 PM 12/27 HAM RADIO WEST SPRINGFIELD 5.0 829 PM 12/27 HAM RADIO AMHERST 3.0 839 PM 12/26 HAM RADIO AGAWAM 2.8 756 PM 12/26 HAM RADIO SPRINGFIELD 2.8 737 PM 12/26 HAM RADIO ...HAMPSHIRE COUNTY... PLAINFIELD 12.5 235 PM 12/27 TRAINED SPOTTER CHESTERFIELD 7.5 727 AM 12/27 HAM RADIO WORTHINGTON 6.0 1045 PM 12/26 SPOTTER WESTHAMPTON 6.0 1100 AM 12/27 AMHERST 5.5 1210 PM 12/27 GENERAL PUBLIC GRANBY 5.0 1115 AM 12/27 EMERGENCY MANAGER WARE 4.1 828 PM 12/27 HAM RADIO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted July 14, 2011 Author Share Posted July 14, 2011 I think you had to go more out near the NY border to get the good stuff in W MA. That dryslot even got Mt. MRG. ...FRANKLIN COUNTY... HEATH 8.0 339 PM 12/27 TRAINED SPOTTER CHARLEMONT 7.0 1100 AM 12/27 TRAINED SPOTTER WHATELY 4.5 132 PM 12/27 TRAINED SPOTTER ...HAMPDEN COUNTY... BLANDFORD 9.5 812 AM 12/27 HAM RADIO WESTFIELD 6.8 200 PM 12/27 MEDIA SOUTHWICK 6.8 847 AM 12/28 EAST LONGMEADOW 6.5 830 PM 12/27 HAM RADIO CHICOPEE 5.3 811 PM 12/27 HAM RADIO WEST SPRINGFIELD 5.0 829 PM 12/27 HAM RADIO AMHERST 3.0 839 PM 12/26 HAM RADIO AGAWAM 2.8 756 PM 12/26 HAM RADIO SPRINGFIELD 2.8 737 PM 12/26 HAM RADIO ...HAMPSHIRE COUNTY... PLAINFIELD 12.5 235 PM 12/27 TRAINED SPOTTER CHESTERFIELD 7.5 727 AM 12/27 HAM RADIO WORTHINGTON 6.0 1045 PM 12/26 SPOTTER WESTHAMPTON 6.0 1100 AM 12/27 AMHERST 5.5 1210 PM 12/27 GENERAL PUBLIC GRANBY 5.0 1115 AM 12/27 EMERGENCY MANAGER WARE 4.1 828 PM 12/27 HAM RADIO LOL, oh duh...I was thinking of Jan 12th that nailed him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ORH_wxman Posted July 14, 2011 Share Posted July 14, 2011 LOL, oh duh...I was thinking of Jan 12th that nailed him. Yeah they got like 25-30" out that way with more on the spine in 1/12. 1/12 was the best storm for our region as a whole. 1/27 though was really cool, it had some extremely intense snowfall rates for a few hours. 12/26 was a bit disappointing though I can't complain overall since I still got 12" in that storm...many others had single digits. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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