LoveSN+ Posted October 20, 2017 Share Posted October 20, 2017 15 minutes ago, RUNNAWAYICEBERG said: 24” is a BECS for most but only a MECS for some. ha. Not familiar with the terminology, do tell Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoth Posted October 20, 2017 Share Posted October 20, 2017 23 minutes ago, RUNNAWAYICEBERG said: 24” is a BECS for most but only a MECS for some. ha. We spoiled. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RUNNAWAYICEBERG Posted October 21, 2017 Share Posted October 21, 2017 2 hours ago, LoveSN+ said: Not familiar with the terminology, do tell becs = biblical east coast snowstorm (lifetime event) mecs = major east coast snowstorm (practically once a winter event) In between becs and mecs, though, is hecs = historical east coast snowstorm. So, it was sarcasm on how some have had it so good lately that 24” is just another run of the mill snowfall. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niksic 3 Posted October 22, 2017 Share Posted October 22, 2017 On Saturday, October 21, 2017 at 3:51 AM, RUNNAWAYICEBERG said: I would like to know how many time Portland has snow depth more than 40 ich. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niksic 3 Posted October 22, 2017 Share Posted October 22, 2017 I would like to know how many time Portland has snow depth more than 40 ich. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrianW Posted October 22, 2017 Share Posted October 22, 2017 February 9th 2013 woke up to this in Wallingford, CT..... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moneypitmike Posted October 22, 2017 Share Posted October 22, 2017 On 10/20/2017 at 9:51 PM, RUNNAWAYICEBERG said: becs = biblical east coast snowstorm (lifetime event) mecs = major east coast snowstorm (practically once a winter event) In between becs and mecs, though, is hecs = historical east coast snowstorm. So, it was sarcasm on how some have had it so good lately that 24” is just another run of the mill snowfall. You left out SECS--'significant' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tamarack Posted October 23, 2017 Share Posted October 23, 2017 On 10/22/2017 at 4:58 AM, Niksic 3 said: I would like to know how many time Portland has snow depth more than 40 ich. Found 3 winters, though my records begin in 1920 (I think there are city records 40+ years older) and are missing about 10 years late 20s-early 30s. Two others showed up in the sort, but were short periods of recording depth to the tenth inch w/o the decimal. Tops is 55" in 1923, but their January depths look suspicious. They recorded 44.8" during that month's first 16 days, and depth climbed from 10" to 55". Temp never topped 32 during that time, but zero compaction? A low 40s peak would seem more defensible. Next is 1920, topping out at 49" and without as much uncompactable snowfall. Most recently, they reached 40" in Dec 1970, in their snowiest winter on record (141.5") but never got back that deep. Their record storm, 31.9" in Feb 2013, was just the opposite of the 1923 depths, with the pack never exceeding 21". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niksic 3 Posted October 25, 2017 Share Posted October 25, 2017 On Saturday, October 21, 2017 at 3:51 AM, RUNNAWAYICEBERG said: These are the dates when the portland had snow depths of 40 inches 1893 - Feb 2 days 1894 - Feb 3 days 1920 - Feb 5 days 1920 - Mar 4 days 1923 - Jan 9 days 1923 - Feb 13 days 1970 - Dec 2 days Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ORH_wxman Posted October 25, 2017 Share Posted October 25, 2017 Surprised PWM has only had one occurrence at the modern jetport site. I assume the 1923 and earlier occurrences were all at the older site. The jetport is obviously right on the water, but it is still a pretty decent snow spot. I would have thought at least a couple times more recently. Winters like '92-'93 or '95-'96....surprised they didn't squeak one out in '68-'69. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RUNNAWAYICEBERG Posted October 26, 2017 Share Posted October 26, 2017 Why am I being quoted when it was not my post? lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
USCAPEWEATHERAF Posted November 9, 2017 Share Posted November 9, 2017 Winter Storm Juno photos and videos from Mike Siedel from the Weather Channel is amazing to continue to watch over and over again. Juno was the second most amazing snowstorm to strike Harwich, MA, 32" of snow, second behind the Great North American Blizzard of 2005, 35" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
40/70 Benchmark Posted November 9, 2017 Share Posted November 9, 2017 10 minutes ago, USCAPEWEATHERAF said: Winter Storm Juno photos and videos from Mike Siedel from the Weather Channel is amazing to continue to watch over and over again. Juno was the second most amazing snowstorm to strike Harwich, MA, 32" of snow, second behind the Great North American Blizzard of 2005, 35" Once someone becomes a legend, are they always a legend? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tamarack Posted November 9, 2017 Share Posted November 9, 2017 On 10/25/2017 at 3:35 PM, ORH_wxman said: Surprised PWM has only had one occurrence at the modern jetport site. I assume the 1923 and earlier occurrences were all at the older site. The jetport is obviously right on the water, but it is still a pretty decent snow spot. I would have thought at least a couple times more recently. Winters like '92-'93 or '95-'96....surprised they didn't squeak one out in '68-'69. Getting back to this - PWM got 49" in March 1993 with 39.7" from 4 storms (one a mix/mess) 5th-14th growing the pack from 9" to 34", followed by late winter sun effect. In 1996 the winter's biggest storm, 15.5" Dec. 19-21, raised depth to 25" but it was back to 11" when the Jan storms arrived. No blockbusters, but 2 10-inchers plus a 3" and a 7" kicked the depth to 31" on 1/13. Three deluges and by the 28th it was brown ground and dirty piles. 1969 peaked at 28" after the 21.5" dump on Feb. 9-10. It settled back to 7" by the time the late Feb event came, 27" at near-freezing temps that only boosted depth to 23". They also got just past 30" in Jan 1979, which topped by 1" the 61" of Feb 1969 for their snowiest month on record, but the 31" pack on 1/21 was immediately cut in half by a 2" mlow-40s downpour. I think their oceanside locale rarely gets sustained cold when they're also getting storms. Their depths may also suffer from wind; the 9" of frigid 10:1 snow on 2/2/15 landed atop a solid 16" pack but only raised it to 20". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
USCAPEWEATHERAF Posted November 9, 2017 Share Posted November 9, 2017 4 hours ago, 40/70 Benchmark said: Once someone becomes a legend, are they always a legend? Yes sir they are 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RUNNAWAYICEBERG Posted November 10, 2017 Share Posted November 10, 2017 Legendary status can never be taken away from you....just take a look at OJ. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
codfishsnowman Posted November 10, 2017 Share Posted November 10, 2017 Tip brought up an awesome memory the other day from the 1986 mid November bowling ball I was in middle school and just did not believe the forecast, the two years prior it had a remarkably hard time snowing a few inches in the dead of winter woke up to thunder lightning and moderate to heavy snow around 2 am...wound up with 4 to 6 inches of paste in central ct, but back then I don't remember hearing about eastern zones getting crushed....figures lol but where I lived at the time that winter actually turned out okay, especially considering winters before and after that decade....we had 50 inches that winter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ORH_wxman Posted November 10, 2017 Share Posted November 10, 2017 1 hour ago, codfishsnowman said: Tip brought up an awesome memory the other day from the 1986 mid November bowling ball I was in middle school and just did not believe the forecast, the two years prior it had a remarkably hard time snowing a few inches in the dead of winter woke up to thunder lightning and moderate to heavy snow around 2 am...wound up with 4 to 6 inches of paste in central ct, but back then I don't remember hearing about eastern zones getting crushed....figures lol but where I lived at the time that winter actually turned out okay, especially considering winters before and after that decade....we had 50 inches that winter 86-87 was def a really good winter just off the coast. Esp Jan 87. But those teasers (or blockbuster for a small area, lol) in November were a good prelude. Just a nitpick though...it wasn't really a "bowling ball". It was a very strong vortmax moving through southern lakes that went nuclear when it go south of LI. A classic clipper/redeveloper as we sometimes call them on here...a rarity to see one so perfect in November though like that year. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dendrite Posted November 10, 2017 Share Posted November 10, 2017 15 hours ago, RUNNAWAYICEBERG said: Legendary status can never be taken away from you....just take a look at OJ. If the ruler don't fit you must slant the stick. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OceanStWx Posted November 10, 2017 Share Posted November 10, 2017 On 10/23/2017 at 0:45 PM, tamarack said: Found 3 winters, though my records begin in 1920 (I think there are city records 40+ years older) and are missing about 10 years late 20s-early 30s. Two others showed up in the sort, but were short periods of recording depth to the tenth inch w/o the decimal. Tops is 55" in 1923, but their January depths look suspicious. They recorded 44.8" during that month's first 16 days, and depth climbed from 10" to 55". Temp never topped 32 during that time, but zero compaction? A low 40s peak would seem more defensible. Next is 1920, topping out at 49" and without as much uncompactable snowfall. Most recently, they reached 40" in Dec 1970, in their snowiest winter on record (141.5") but never got back that deep. Their record storm, 31.9" in Feb 2013, was just the opposite of the 1923 depths, with the pack never exceeding 21". They also had snow up to knicker levels in Feb 1894, 45" for three days after Valentine's Day. Started the month with 23" OTG and packed on another 24.9" to reach 45". Records do look a little sketchy at that time, just add new snow to current snow depth to get new snow depth. There's also Feb 1983 that hit 40 and 41" within a couple days of each other late in the month. But 1970 looks like the first modern era 40" snow depth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dendrite Posted November 10, 2017 Share Posted November 10, 2017 2 minutes ago, OceanStWx said: They also had snow up to knicker levels in Feb 1894, 45" for three days after Valentine's Day. Started the month with 23" OTG and packed on another 24.9" to reach 45". Records do look a little sketchy at that time, just add new snow to current snow depth to get new snow depth. There's also Feb 1983 that hit 40 and 41" within a couple days of each other late in the month. But 1970 looks like the first modern era 40" snow depth. What do you have on mid-April 1933? Is this a weenie measurement? http://www1.ncdc.noaa.gov/pub/orders/IPS/IPS-8A0AFA92-B375-4468-9ACD-4EE35C2EB4E4.pdf Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OceanStWx Posted November 10, 2017 Share Posted November 10, 2017 On 10/25/2017 at 3:35 PM, ORH_wxman said: Surprised PWM has only had one occurrence at the modern jetport site. I assume the 1923 and earlier occurrences were all at the older site. The jetport is obviously right on the water, but it is still a pretty decent snow spot. I would have thought at least a couple times more recently. Winters like '92-'93 or '95-'96....surprised they didn't squeak one out in '68-'69. PWM has reports from the Jetport since 1931 ('31-'40 overlapped with Exchange Street downtown to verify consistency). 1940 officially moved to the Jetport, and moved twice with the terminal building, once in 1940 and again in 1988, then automation began in 1994 when we moved to GYX. The Jetport itself is pretty susceptible to west winds for blowing/drifting. I can't seem to find the info prior to 2010, but the current snow observer is 2 miles NE of PWM (Deering neighborhood). It's not the best snow location in the sense of obstructions, not like Winthrop sticking out into Boston Harbor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OceanStWx Posted November 10, 2017 Share Posted November 10, 2017 13 minutes ago, dendrite said: What do you have on mid-April 1933? Is this a weenie measurement? http://www1.ncdc.noaa.gov/pub/orders/IPS/IPS-8A0AFA92-B375-4468-9ACD-4EE35C2EB4E4.pdf PWM had 2.32 liquid, and 11.4" so it's not insane I guess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OceanStWx Posted November 10, 2017 Share Posted November 10, 2017 30" also reported in Newport, over 20" at Pinkham, Keene, West Leb, Hanover, Plymouth. So probably a great-great grandfather slant sticking, but I'd say plausible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted November 10, 2017 Author Share Posted November 10, 2017 2 minutes ago, OceanStWx said: PWM had 2.32 liquid, and 11.4" so it's not insane I guess. Low temp of only 32? Seems a little warm for 34". I suppose his thermo could be a bit warm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted November 10, 2017 Author Share Posted November 10, 2017 1 minute ago, OceanStWx said: 30" also reported in Newport, over 20" at Pinkham, Keene, West Leb, Hanover, Plymouth. So probably a great-great grandfather slant sticking, but I'd say plausible. I didn't realize Kevin had family in central NH. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OceanStWx Posted November 10, 2017 Share Posted November 10, 2017 3 minutes ago, CoastalWx said: Low temp of only 32? Seems a little warm for 34". I suppose his thermo could be a bit warm. He does note it fell over the night of the 12th, but I'm more concerned with the 1.35" turning into 34" of snow. That's awfully dry for 32 SN. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted November 10, 2017 Author Share Posted November 10, 2017 9 minutes ago, OceanStWx said: He does note it fell over the night of the 12th, but I'm more concerned with the 1.35" turning into 34" of snow. That's awfully dry for 32 SN. Right exactly. Eh, I guess a chicken coop collapser either way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OceanStWx Posted November 10, 2017 Share Posted November 10, 2017 42 minutes ago, CoastalWx said: Right exactly. Eh, I guess a chicken coop collapser either way. Grandpa Wood measuring snow in backyard drifts, where the people live, not some wind swept train station. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dendrite Posted November 10, 2017 Share Posted November 10, 2017 1 hour ago, OceanStWx said: He does note it fell over the night of the 12th, but I'm more concerned with the 1.35" turning into 34" of snow. That's awfully dry for 32 SN. Was he letting it fall into the can though? That usually greatly underreports w.e...especially if the snow was all stuck around the side of the gauge too. I do like Tip's blue snow mentioned in the comments. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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