Stash Posted February 4, 2022 Share Posted February 4, 2022 5 minutes ago, PerintonMan said: No? The heavy stuff just north of the mix line is actually still sleet? I know this wasn't directed at me, but I can confirm the blue over me in Saratoga County is still sleet. Maybe some mangled snowflakes mixed in? I'm certainly not sticking my face up into the sky to find out without eye protection. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BGM Blizzard Posted February 4, 2022 Share Posted February 4, 2022 Just now, PerintonMan said: No? The heavy stuff just north of the mix line is actually still sleet? Yup or Zr in the higher terrain like kbgm is reporting right now. The tri-cities airport in Endicott reported light snow and 27° and their 6 miles south of me on the banks of the Susquehanna around 890ft elev... not sure I buy that one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Syrmax Posted February 4, 2022 Share Posted February 4, 2022 6 minutes ago, tombo82685 said: yea, gotta be lack of omega which lays that out well with lack of qpf. Didn't most models have like 1.2-1.4 for cuse area qpf wise lol? Yes, that's what most models were Spitting out for KSYZ for qpf. One caveat, we are a bit N of KSYZ and the soundings I was looking at were for the airport. If heaviest qpf is from SYZ to say Cortland, just to my south, wouldn't shock me to see the city end up a bit better than here. OTOH, we're halfway to double digits and a long way to go yet...so we may end up ok given the ratios I just measured... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tombo82685 Posted February 4, 2022 Share Posted February 4, 2022 2 minutes ago, BGM Blizzard said: Yup or Zr in the higher terrain like kbgm is reporting right now. The tri-cities airport in Endicott reported light snow and 27° and their 6 miles south of me on the banks of the Susquehanna around 890ft elev... not sure I buy that one. Whats the vis at tri cities, that should tell you whether it's legit or not. I highly doubt snow if the bgm is zr. Could be happening is lower elev than airport giving more time for rain droplets to freeze. Probably pelting with maybe a few needles thrown in 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tombo82685 Posted February 4, 2022 Share Posted February 4, 2022 2 minutes ago, Syrmax said: Yes, that's what most models were Spitting out for KSYZ. One caveat, we are a bit N of KSYZ and the soundings I was looking at were for the airport. If heaviest qpf is from SYZ to say Cortland, just to my south, wouldn't shock me to see the city end up a bit better than here. OTOH, we're halfway to double digits and a long way to go yet...so we may end up ok given the ratios I just measured... Yea and would think with any decent omega later on with cooling thermals aloft would increase chance of a bit better ratios 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Syrmax Posted February 4, 2022 Share Posted February 4, 2022 1 minute ago, tombo82685 said: Whats the vis at tri cities, that should tell you whether it's legit or not. I highly doubt snow if the bgm is zr. Here's last hours statewide roundup... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PerintonMan Posted February 4, 2022 Share Posted February 4, 2022 6 minutes ago, Stash said: Been out and about in the Saratoga area, and it's absolutely pouring sleet. I've never seen sleet this hard. Complete scalping. The roads may be worse than if this were an actual heavy snowfall. Complete waste of precip, but at least it's unique. Brings me back to the old days growing up in CT when many a beautiful snowstorms were ruined by that dreaded pinging sounds to let you know that rain was just around the corner. I grew up in Connecticut and I feel this hard 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TugHillMatt Posted February 4, 2022 Share Posted February 4, 2022 5 minutes ago, Syrmax said: This was foreseen by some of the model soundings i was looking at the past day or so. But i was seeing some decent periods tonight. So maybe we get some better production at some point. This is long duration so maybe 10-12" not out of the question for us. I was hoping that for once those models would be wrong and we could get REAL snow in a synoptic system here. You've lived here longer, so you know the climo better. As I've asked so many times, how on earth do we actually get to the average of 130 inches?? lol... Seems like so much always goes wrong. But like I mentioned a couple of times, these SWFEs are not ideal for Syracuse with the influences of topography to our south and northeast. We live and die by way of the coastals of yesteryear. Still lots left in this system though...and perhaps the lake can get more involved than current thoughts. That enhancement has saved us a couple times since I've lived here. We get those hours of pure fluff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BGM Blizzard Posted February 4, 2022 Share Posted February 4, 2022 10 minutes ago, tombo82685 said: Whats the vis at tri cities, that should tell you whether it's legit or not. I highly doubt snow if the bgm is zr. Could be happening is lower elev than airport giving more time for rain droplets to freeze. Probably pelting with maybe a few needles thrown in No vis was included with that report looks like 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Syrmax Posted February 4, 2022 Share Posted February 4, 2022 Just now, TugHillMatt said: I was hoping that for once those models would be wrong and we could get REAL snow in a synoptic system here. You've lived here longer, so you know the climo better. As I've asked so many times, how on earth do we actually get to the average of 130 inches?? lol... Seems like so much always goes wrong. But like I mentioned a couple of times, these SWFEs are not ideal for Syracuse with the influences of topography to our south and northeast. We live and die by way of the coastals of yesteryear. Still lots left in this system though...and perhaps the lake can get more involved than current thoughts. That enhancement has saved us a couple times since I've lived here. We get those hours of pure fluff. We had a normal Nov for snowfall (at KSYZ), about 9". Jan was a little light but 80-90% of Norm. BUT, WE LOST DECEMBER. If Feb and March are avg, we'll end up around 100" or so. Then there is the April and May "bone-us" snows. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BGM Blizzard Posted February 4, 2022 Share Posted February 4, 2022 Stepped outside and we are mixing with freezing rain again. Ugh. The sleet on the ground is being glacierized as we speak. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TugHillMatt Posted February 4, 2022 Share Posted February 4, 2022 16 minutes ago, BGM Blizzard said: If only this radar was accurate... Pounding sleet and 27.1° at 930ft elev Kbgm airport reporting Zr and 24° at 1630ft elev 5 miles away. Yeah, their discussion was very interesting. That cold dense air is sliding in underneath and refreezing the precip.into sleet in the valleys, while it rains and freezes up on the hilltops, closer to the warm layer above. Pure Science weenieism! 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Syrmax Posted February 4, 2022 Share Posted February 4, 2022 3 minutes ago, BGM Blizzard said: Stepped outside and we are mixing with freezing rain again. Ugh. The sleet on the ground is being glacierized as we speak. What location are you at down there? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Syrmax Posted February 4, 2022 Share Posted February 4, 2022 5 minutes ago, TugHillMatt said: Yeah, their discussion was very interesting. That cold dense air is sliding in underneath and refreezing the precip.into sleet in the valleys, while it rains and freezes up on the hilltops, closer to the warm layer above. Pure Science weenieism! She blinded me with SCIENCE! (Thomas Dolby 1980s for you young 'Tards ) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloWeather Posted February 4, 2022 Author Share Posted February 4, 2022 Highest total so far ...Cattaraugus County... Perrysburg 12.7 in 0900 PM 02/03 Public Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloWeather Posted February 4, 2022 Author Share Posted February 4, 2022 10 minutes ago, Syrmax said: We had a normal Nov for snowfall (at KSYZ), about 9". Jan was a little light but 80-90% of Norm. BUT, WE LOST DECEMBER. If Feb and March are avg, we'll end up around 100" or so. Then there is the April and May "bone-us" snows. December is my favorite winter month. Losing it makes it impossible to give this winter a good grade. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Syrmax Posted February 4, 2022 Share Posted February 4, 2022 1 minute ago, BuffaloWeather said: Highest total so far ...Cattaraugus County... Perrysburg 12.7 in 0900 PM 02/03 Public Drifts or real? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloWeather Posted February 4, 2022 Author Share Posted February 4, 2022 Just now, Syrmax said: Drifts or real? Shes a coop observer so I'd say real. Shes also at like 1300 feet on a hill. Shes been reporting since the late 90s. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BGM Blizzard Posted February 4, 2022 Share Posted February 4, 2022 8 minutes ago, Syrmax said: What location are you at down there? I'm in the NY-26 valley in Town of Maine. About halfway between Endicott and Whitney Point. Just downhill from kbgm Airport. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sferic Posted February 4, 2022 Share Posted February 4, 2022 Snowing nicely in Cicero. If this can continue like this to 9am ( 10 more hours) I'll be happy and probably hit a foot 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tombo82685 Posted February 4, 2022 Share Posted February 4, 2022 1 minute ago, Syrmax said: Drifts or real? believe perrysburg has good elev like over 1400 so could be some upslope enhancement 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloWeather Posted February 4, 2022 Author Share Posted February 4, 2022 21 minutes ago, Syrmax said: Here's last hours statewide roundup... Awesome site, added to the bookmarks! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TugHillMatt Posted February 4, 2022 Share Posted February 4, 2022 2 minutes ago, BuffaloWeather said: Shes a coop observer so I'd say real. Shes also at like 1300 feet on a hill. Shes been reporting since the late 90s. Sounds like a good competitor for that Yerdon lady in N. Redfield who takes 5,000 pictures of herself cheerleader jumping off snow piles. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rochesterdave Posted February 4, 2022 Share Posted February 4, 2022 My bedroom has a spotlight right over the window. I can lie here and just watch it snow. So peaceful. 4” and mod-hvy here in Stowe 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloWeather Posted February 4, 2022 Author Share Posted February 4, 2022 1 minute ago, TugHillMatt said: Sounds like a good competitor for that Yerdon lady in N. Redfield who takes 5,000 pictures of herself cheerleader jumping off snow piles. Yeah shes very similar to her loves the snow. Shes the snow capital of WNY by far. She gets all the upslope off the Chautuaqua ridge. Think her average is like 225" a year. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tombo82685 Posted February 4, 2022 Share Posted February 4, 2022 Just now, TugHillMatt said: Sounds like a good competitor for that Yerdon lady in N. Redfield who takes 5,000 pictures of herself cheerleader jumping off snow piles. how does that make you feel Matt, tell us from the bottom of your heart 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rochesterdave Posted February 4, 2022 Share Posted February 4, 2022 2 minutes ago, TugHillMatt said: Sounds like a good competitor for that Yerdon lady in N. Redfield who takes 5,000 pictures of herself cheerleader jumping off snow piles. She makes me so jealous 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TugHillMatt Posted February 4, 2022 Share Posted February 4, 2022 1 minute ago, tombo82685 said: how does that make you feel Matt, tell us from the bottom of your heart It's one of the long-standing jokes on here that I despise Carol Yerdon (not really) and the touting of her snowfall amounts from atop her big Yerdon snow pile. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tombo82685 Posted February 4, 2022 Share Posted February 4, 2022 seriously, nothing beats a good bourbon on a cold snowy night 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloWeather Posted February 4, 2022 Author Share Posted February 4, 2022 Couple pics from the jeb walk with the doggy tonight. Was so peaceful, no one was out. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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