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February Medium/Long Range Discussion


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  On 2/17/2022 at 10:30 PM, stormtracker said:

Yup, all frozen now, but it's crap.  I want a snow event.  Not even going to lie.

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Same. But not even buying the zr/sleet event given its recent performances. Not a good climo match for the lowlands at the very end of Feb either.  Maybe the Winchester folks are more intrigued by this idea, but not me.

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  On 2/17/2022 at 10:30 PM, stormtracker said:

Yup, all frozen now, but it's crap.  I want a snow event.  Not even going to lie.

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There’s a leading area of precipitation on all the guidance ahead of the main low. Like late Thursday. Guidance also mostly peters it out before quite getting to us. But our airmass is good, so if we can juice that up…

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  On 2/17/2022 at 10:37 PM, WxUSAF said:

There’s a leading area of precipitation on all the guidance ahead of the main low. Like late Thursday. Guidance also mostly peters it out before quite getting to us. But our airmass is good, so if we can juice that up…

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 Lets see what the ens mean looks like, not that it will provide any clarity as it mostly just follows the op each run lately. Still think this ends up mostly rain/ slop at best for the lowlands, but I am open to being surprised lol. One thing is for sure- the GFS can go eff itself if the Euro isn't onboard.

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  On 2/17/2022 at 10:46 PM, CAPE said:

 Lets see what the ens mean looks like, not that it will provide any clarity as it mostly just follows the op each run lately. Still think this ends up mostly rain/ slop at best for the lowlands, but I am open to being surprised lol. One thing is for sure- the GFS can go eff itself if the Euro isn't onboard.

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The antecedent conditions (cold push, high strength and positioning) were better on the euro than the gfs at 12z. But euro just amped that storm up too much so it still cuts far west. But that is a euro bias so…

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  On 2/17/2022 at 8:11 PM, Bob Chill said:

It hasn't been dry in my yard. Over 5" of precip in Jan alone. And with avg highs pushing 50 shortly, cold is exceptionally important versus Jan. We go back and forth on this a lot and it's fun but let's be honest here, we need both and considering 80-90%+ of our winter precip is rain year after year, if it ain't cold we ain't snowing. Maybe in the mountains by you but not for 95% of our sub. 

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We had 2.7” here in January with .72 on Jan 1-2 when temps were in the 60’s and nearly an inch on the 16th.

So I basically had an inch of precip outside of the 16th for the last 29 days of a month with temperatures about 4 degrees on average below normal. So yeah, I’m a little tired of praying for precip. So I’m really hoping we can get into a really wet pattern for the next month or so because if we could do that, I think my yearly snowfall would double .. at least. 

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  On 2/17/2022 at 11:13 PM, WinterWxLuvr said:

The look the gfs showed would almost certainly start as snow IMO. Let’s get that high over Quebec down over Nee England and we’ll be in business. Let’s get a snow, sleet,zr event to lay a base for a big snowstorm right in its heels. Who’s with me lol

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I'm with you.  So much so that I'm typing up the thread at this moment.

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  On 2/18/2022 at 2:38 AM, nj2va said:

Yep, I mentioned that to RIC_WX a few days ago when I saw that NS vort/clipper moving through the NE.  It screamed for upslope setup for the mountains.  

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Amazing call.  Snuck up today at zero dark thirty for the first visit in 2 weeks.  Trying to coax the remainder of the crew up for the weekend.  Guess we'll see.

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  On 2/18/2022 at 4:25 AM, Ji said:

Gfs trends wrong way of course

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Canadian ens looks better lol.

Euro/EPS still not enthused with the idea of freezing/frozen.

I'll say it again- late next week is worth keeping a casual eye on, but it's not the one. Probably too soon as it occurs at the front end of a shift in the pattern.

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  On 2/18/2022 at 9:01 AM, CAPE said:

Canadian ens looks better lol.

Euro/EPS still not enthused with the idea of freezing/frozen.

I'll say it again- late next week is worth keeping a casual eye on, but it's not the one. Probably too soon as it occurs at the front end of a shift in the pattern.

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Agreed. I like the window starting just after 3/1 better myself 

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  On 2/18/2022 at 10:54 AM, jayyy said:

Agreed. I like the window starting just after 3/1 better myself 

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March 1-7 is probably THE window. Not saying we wont have chances beyond that, but climo starts to make it more difficult pretty quickly going forward.

Looking at the ensembles, still pretty scattershot, but March 2 and then the 5th-6th is where a discrete threat might start to emerge.

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  On 2/18/2022 at 10:56 AM, Weather Will said:

WB 6Z GFS still has the ice event on the 24th.  Unfortunately rest of the run keeps the cold air well to the North for the rest of the 2 week period.  Not a good run.  TGIF!

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We will have to see how long the TPV can stay displaced and locked into a 'good' spot. Without much(or any) downstream ridging in the NAO domain, the character of the EPO ridge upstream will largely determine that- meaning the amplitude, axis, and orientation. It is a bit tenuous without some help in the NA. Right now I don't see much to "worry" about on the ensembles, at least not through the first week of March.

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  On 2/18/2022 at 9:01 AM, CAPE said:

Canadian ens looks better lol.

Euro/EPS still not enthused with the idea of freezing/frozen.

I'll say it again- late next week is worth keeping a casual eye on, but it's not the one. Probably too soon as it occurs at the front end of a shift in the pattern.

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Yeah, it might be the only one! We've all been around this hobby long enough to know that a good look in the long range can disappear pretty quickly. This is why I'll track the 6/7 day threat hard. It might be the last winter event of the season. 

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  On 2/18/2022 at 11:33 AM, MD Snow said:

Yeah, it might be the only one! We've all been around this hobby long enough to know that a good look in the long range can disappear pretty quickly. This is why I'll track the 6/7 day threat hard. It might be the last winter event of the season. 

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Lets hope not. For now it is the only one on the radar to track though.

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