February 3-4 significant icing event for the interior, some sleet/snow possible. Coast mostly rain.

[LibertyBell]

5 hours ago, bluewave said:

The GFS was the only model that really struggled with its cold bias.   All the other guidance had the most icing up toward Ulster and Orange Counties.  The NYC and Long Island areas generally need the cold to be in place when the freezing rain begins for significant icing build up on trees and power lines. Models were signaling for days that we would start out in the 40s and 50s with rain before any changeover. Past major icing events near the coast generally began with the temperatures below freezing.

didnt we have one or more storms in March 1996 that started as rain and then cold air drained down from the north during the day and we flipped over to freezing rain, sleet and finally snow?

 

[LibertyBell]

10 hours ago, Snowlover11 said:

nadda so far lol

we had a nice coating of snow when I woke up this morning in SW Nassau, I wonder if JFK measured anything?

 

[gravitylover]

5 minutes ago, LibertyBell said:

all power lines should be buried

 

Are you paying for it? 

[LibertyBell]

1 minute ago, gravitylover said:

Are you paying for it? 

we all can.  you want improvements, sacrifices need to be made for that....the benefits outweigh the costs; it wont just help with ice, it'll also help with landfalling TCs, thunderstorms, and wind storms.

 

[hudsonvalley21]

4 minutes ago, gravitylover said:

Are you paying for it? 

 

[nyrangers1022]

15 minutes ago, LibertyBell said:

we all can.  you want improvements, sacrifices need to be made for that....the benefits outweigh the costs; it wont just help with ice, it'll also help with landfalling TCs, thunderstorms, and wind storms.

 

One million dollars per mile is the estimate.  How many miles of powerlines are there?   We all know estimates are way underdone.  Now count for the terrain, especially here in the Hudson Valley.  Alot of shale and mountains.  Ripping up existing roads and sidewalks and needing to resurface , which costs more money and travel nightmares.  Then you have to rip up peoples lawns, driveways etc...to connect services.   All new developments are getting underground

 

I used to lay powerlines underground in New developments.  Thats also a slow process on virgin dirt with no other utilities or objects to get around

[LibertyBell]

25 minutes ago, nyrangers1022 said:

One million dollars per mile is the estimate.  How many miles of powerlines are there?   We all know estimates are way underdone.  Now count for the terrain, especially here in the Hudson Valley.  Alot of shale and mountains.  Ripping up existing roads and sidewalks and needing to resurface , which costs more money and travel nightmares.  Then you have to rip up peoples lawns, driveways etc...to connect services.   All new developments are getting underground

 

I used to lay powerlines underground in New developments.  Thats also a slow process on virgin dirt with no other utilities or objects to get around

I mean we have to be reasonable and start somewhere, like with the more highly populated and most vulnerable areas first.

It's good that all new developments are underground, that at least means in the future we shouldn't have these problems with those.

 

[gravitylover]

They started replacing the poles in my area recently and all of the new ones are 75+ feet tall so are generally higher than the trees. I have to wonder though how many huge trees are left to harvest to keep keep upgrading to the taller poles.