LibertyBell Posted February 22, 2022 Share Posted February 22, 2022 4 hours ago, EastonSN+ said: Temps same timeframe. One good thing about this look is although it's definitely a "cutter" look similar to the storm coming this Friday, in the look below there would be a deeper cold layer in advance of the storm. Most likely a few 1 to 3 2 to 4 then mix rain scenarios. this looks to be a month where we get some accumulating snow but no big snowstorms. We'll be lucky to get a 6" snowstorm....this looks like a few 1-3 or 2-4 events. I dont think we will get to double digit snowfall in March. Maybe near average snowfall. Does anyone actually like snow changing to rain scenarios? I dont....it might as well be all rain or just be sunny and warm in that case. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LibertyBell Posted February 22, 2022 Share Posted February 22, 2022 36 minutes ago, Allsnow said: With that comes a storm threat. The op crushed Boston Oh the March 2nd storm is back lol 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EastonSN+ Posted February 22, 2022 Share Posted February 22, 2022 4 minutes ago, LibertyBell said: this looks to be a month where we get some accumulating snow but no big snowstorms. We'll be lucky to get a 6" snowstorm....this looks like a few 1-3 or 2-4 events. I dont think we will get to double digit snowfall in March. Maybe near average snowfall. Does anyone actually like snow changing to rain scenarios? I dont....it might as well be all rain or just be sunny and warm in that case. Yeah it's more of the same like this Friday, and yes likely light to moderate across the forum. For me it's about tow things. 1.) Kids play in the snow which this is not great for and 2.) I want to be able to continue to say "only 6 below average snowfall seasons this century". Therefore for me get me enough snow any way I can get it to get me to my 30 to 35 area range. Need 11.5. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LibertyBell Posted February 22, 2022 Share Posted February 22, 2022 Just now, bluewave said: The kicker coming into the West Coast and +AO suppress the southern stream. Is there a storm coming right after that showing up on the Euro? March 2nd seems to be showing up on some models. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LibertyBell Posted February 22, 2022 Share Posted February 22, 2022 1 minute ago, EastonSN+ said: Yeah it's more of the same like this Friday, and yes likely light to moderate across the forum. For me it's about tow things. 1.) Kids play in the snow which this is not great for and 2.) I want to be able to continue to say "only 6 below average snowfall seasons this century". Therefore for me get me enough snow any way I can get it to get me to my 30 to 35 are range. Need 11.5. Oh yes you have some work to do. I need about 5 inches to get to average (using JFK numbers) Based on my own record keeping it's already near average here maybe 2-3 inches short. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
donsutherland1 Posted February 22, 2022 Share Posted February 22, 2022 Tomorrow will be exceptionally mild. Temperatures will soar into the 60s across much of the region. Some areas could approach or reach 70°. Afterward, cooler weather will return. Late Thursday night through Friday, interior sections of the Northeast will be in line for accumulating snow. A moderate to perhaps significant snowfall there is possible. Despite some GFS runs showing 4" or more snow for New York City, the forecast pattern generally argues against such an outcome. During the February 20-29, 1950-2021 period, 4/13 (31%) of 4" or greater snowstorms saw a positive AO. The evolution of synoptic details will determine the outcome and, at present, most of the guidance argues against a moderate snowfall in and around New York City. Instead a light snowfall, possibly in the 1"-3" range with some locally higher amounts is on the table prior to a changeover to sleet and then rain. Overall, things remain on course for a warmer than normal second half of February. The potential exists for several days to see much above normal temperatures during that time. The warm pattern will likely begin to break down during the closing days of February. The closing days of February into the first week of March will be generally colder than normal. March could start with a sharp cold shot. The ENSO Region 1+2 anomaly was -1.7°C and the Region 3.4 anomaly was -0.6°C for the week centered around February 16. For the past six weeks, the ENSO Region 1+2 anomaly has averaged -0.90°C and the ENSO Region 3.4 anomaly has averaged -0.70°C. La Niña conditions will likely persist into at least mid-March. The SOI was +13.06 today. The preliminary Arctic Oscillation (AO) was +2.455. On February 20 the MJO was in Phase 3 at an amplitude of 1.465 (RMM). The February 19-adjusted amplitude was 1.585 (RMM). Based on sensitivity analysis applied to the latest guidance, there is an implied 82% probability that New York City will have a warmer than normal February (1991-2020 normal). February will likely finish with a mean temperature near 37.2° (1.3° above normal). 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluewave Posted February 23, 2022 Share Posted February 23, 2022 Pretty impressive to see 60° readings north to POU this early in the morning. Central Park CLOUDY 61 54 77 SW6 29.94S World Trd Ctr NOT AVBL Bronx Lehman C N/A 61 55 82 SW8 N/A LaGuardia Arpt CLOUDY 60 54 80 SW8 29.91S Poughkeepsie CLOUDY 60 54 80 S7 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
donsutherland1 Posted February 23, 2022 Share Posted February 23, 2022 Morning thoughts… Clouds will give way to sunshine. It will be very warm. Parts of the region will approach or set new daily record high temperatures. High temperatures will likely reach the middle and upper 60s in most of the region. Likely high temperatures around the region include: New York City (Central Park): 66° Newark: 66° Philadelphia: 70° Colder air will return tomorrow. Wintry weather is likely on Friday. Normals: New York City: 30-Year: 43.9°; 15-Year: 44.0° Newark: 30-Year: 44.8°; 15-Year: 45.1° Philadelphia: 30-Year: 46.2°; 15-Year: 46.1° 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LibertyBell Posted February 23, 2022 Share Posted February 23, 2022 22 minutes ago, bluewave said: Pretty impressive to see 60° readings north to POU this early in the morning. Central Park CLOUDY 61 54 77 SW6 29.94S World Trd Ctr NOT AVBL Bronx Lehman C N/A 61 55 82 SW8 N/A LaGuardia Arpt CLOUDY 60 54 80 SW8 29.91S Poughkeepsie CLOUDY 60 54 80 S7 Is this going to be the warmest day of the entire winter? Met winter, I mean. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CIK62 Posted February 23, 2022 Share Posted February 23, 2022 The last 6 days of February are averaging 35degs.(27/42), or -2. Month to date is 37.7[+2.4]. February should end at 37.1[+1.2]. Reached 58 at 11pm. here yesterday. Today: 62-66, cloudy, wind w. to n. and breezy, 30 by tomorrow AM. T to 4" of snow before being washed away Thurs./Fri. 0Z GFS COBB Chart for LGA: The NAM had no snow here, just rain mostly. 220225/0300Z 51 15006KT 37.1F 0:1| 0.0|| 0.00|| 0.00|| 0.000 0:1| 0.0|| 0.00|| 0.00|| 0.00 0| 0| 0 220225/0400Z 52 13006KT 36.9F RASN 0:1| 0.0|| 0.00|| 0.00|| 0.007 0:1| 0.0|| 0.00|| 0.00|| 0.01 48| 0| 52 220225/0500Z 53 13007KT 35.7F RASN 0:1| 0.0|| 0.00|| 0.00|| 0.036 0:1| 0.0|| 0.00|| 0.00|| 0.04 55| 0| 45 220225/0600Z 54 15006KT 31.9F SNOW 10:1| 0.4|| 0.00|| 0.00|| 0.038 10:1| 0.4|| 0.00|| 0.00|| 0.08 100| 0| 0 ----------------------------------------------+----++-----+-------------++--------------++-------------++-----------+---+--- 220225/0700Z 55 12005KT 31.2F SNOW 10:1| 0.8|| 0.00|| 0.00|| 0.078 10:1| 1.1|| 0.00|| 0.00|| 0.16 100| 0| 0 220225/0800Z 56 10006KT 31.0F SNOW 8:1| 0.8|| 0.00|| 0.00|| 0.104 9:1| 2.0|| 0.00|| 0.00|| 0.26 100| 0| 0 220225/0900Z 57 07006KT 31.2F SNOW 10:1| 1.0|| 0.00|| 0.00|| 0.098 9:1| 3.0|| 0.00|| 0.00|| 0.36 100| 0| 0 220225/1000Z 58 09005KT 31.5F SNOW 9:1| 0.7|| 0.00|| 0.00|| 0.075 9:1| 3.7|| 0.00|| 0.00|| 0.44 100| 0| 0 220225/1100Z 59 07006KT 32.1F PL 0:1| 0.0|| 0.14|| 0.00|| 0.068 9:1| 3.7|| 0.14|| 0.00|| 0.50 10| 90| 0 220225/1200Z 60 09008KT 32.1F FZRA 0:1| 0.0|| 0.00|| 0.00|| 0.183 9:1| 3.7|| 0.14|| 0.00|| 0.69 0| 0|100 ----------------------------------------------+----++-----+-------------++--------------++-------------++-----------+---+--- 220225/1300Z 61 10008KT 32.1F FZRA 0:1| 0.0|| 0.00|| 0.00|| 0.146 9:1| 3.7|| 0.14|| 0.00|| 0.83 0| 0|100 220225/1400Z 62 08009KT 32.1F FZRA 0:1| 0.0|| 0.00|| 0.00|| 0.139 9:1| 3.7|| 0.14|| 0.00|| 0.97 0| 0|100 220225/1500Z 63 09005KT 32.1F FZRA 0:1| 0.0|| 0.00|| 0.00|| 0.106 9:1| 3.7|| 0.14|| 0.00|| 1.08 0| 0|100 220225/1600Z 64 11003KT 32.1F FZRA 0:1| 0.0|| 0.00|| 0.00|| 0.119 9:1| 3.7|| 0.14|| 0.00|| 1.20 0| 0|100 220225/1700Z 65 VRB01KT 32.6F RAIN 0:1| 0.0|| 0.00|| 0.00|| 0.017 9:1| 3.7|| 0.14|| 0.00|| 1.21 0| 0|100 220225/1800Z 66 31005KT 33.2F DZ 0:1| 0.0|| 0.00|| 0.00|| 0.007 9:1| 3.7|| 0.14|| 0.00|| 1.22 0| 0|100 ----------------------------------------------+----++-----+-------------++--------------++-------------++-----------+---+--- 220225/1900Z 67 VRB02KT 32.8F 0:1| 0.0|| 0.00|| 0.00|| 0.000 9:1| 3.7|| 0.14|| 0.00|| 1.22 0| 0| 0 60*(91%RH) here at 6am.{was 51 at 1am} 62* at 10am. 63* at Noon. 64* at 1pm. 67* at 2pm. 68* at 2:30pm. Reached 69* at 3:40pm. Down to 50* by 7:30pm. 39* by 11pm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EasternLI Posted February 23, 2022 Share Posted February 23, 2022 Sunday/Monday PNA spike has trended to flatten out. Shame. Looked halfway decent from a distance on ensembles. So looks like the northern stream just crushes the southern vort now. Instead of being able to dig more and turn the southern one up the coast. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Volcanic Winter Posted February 23, 2022 Share Posted February 23, 2022 With respect to temperatures how are the next two weeks looking overall? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EastonSN+ Posted February 23, 2022 Share Posted February 23, 2022 This wave is really amplifying. There goes our spring with phase 7 and 8 likely late March and early April. Probably a late season snow event as well. Go figure. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EasternLI Posted February 23, 2022 Share Posted February 23, 2022 Here's the end of the EPS from 00z. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LoboLeader1 Posted February 23, 2022 Share Posted February 23, 2022 Currently 57 here after a low of 48 overnite. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EastonSN+ Posted February 23, 2022 Share Posted February 23, 2022 1 minute ago, EasternLI said: Here's the end of the EPS from 00z. EPS looks much better than the GEFS at this point. It can snow in the GEFS look BUT they would be sloppy events and favor northern areas IMO. Similar to Friday. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
forkyfork Posted February 23, 2022 Share Posted February 23, 2022 looks like most of the cold gets dumped west of us thank god 7 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EasternLI Posted February 23, 2022 Share Posted February 23, 2022 13 minutes ago, EastonSN+ said: EPS looks much better than the GEFS at this point. It can snow in the GEFS look BUT they would be sloppy events and favor northern areas IMO. Similar to Friday. I was hoping for some prolonged warm weather myself. Don't really see that with that look. Probably ends up more back and forth for a while. I'm all set for snow. This season has met my expectations locally. Interior areas could use a good month though. I have this gut feeling that March this year could cook up some sort of big storm at some point though too. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wthrmn654 Posted February 23, 2022 Share Posted February 23, 2022 Just need a 1 or 2 week stretch of dry weather so we can install the replacement outdoor exercise station. So annoying it staying so wet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EastonSN+ Posted February 23, 2022 Share Posted February 23, 2022 7 minutes ago, EasternLI said: I was hoping for some prolonged warm weather myself. Don't really see that with that look. Probably ends up more back and forth for a while. I'm all set for snow. This season has met my expectations locally. Interior areas could use a good month though. I have this gut feeling that March this year could cook up some sort of big storm at some point though too. Yeah phase 7 likely by the 15th to 20th timeframe can wreak havoc. Once I reach average snowfall I want a full torch. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rclab Posted February 23, 2022 Share Posted February 23, 2022 8 minutes ago, bluewave said: Continuation of our big temperature swings pattern. Turing colder into early next week. Then another SE Ridge warm up first week of March. Good morning BW. Is it possible for a pattern of this nature to continue into the warm season? It’s difficult to imagine a 7 to 10 day period in July/August recording highs of 66 and 96. As always …. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EastonSN+ Posted February 23, 2022 Share Posted February 23, 2022 41 minutes ago, forkyfork said: looks like most of the cold gets dumped west of us thank god I would rather get the cold now than 2nd half of the month or April. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluewave Posted February 23, 2022 Share Posted February 23, 2022 23 minutes ago, rclab said: Good morning BW. Is it possible for a pattern of this nature to continue into the warm season? It’s difficult to imagine a 7 to 10 day period in July/August recording highs of 66 and 96. As always …. I guess the closest to that would be July 1977 in NYC if you count the 104° high followed by a 58° low. Data for NY CITY CENTRAL PARK, NYClick column heading to sort ascending, click again to sort descending. Date Max Temperature Min Temperature 1977-07-21 104 78 1977-07-22 88 68 1977-07-23 87 62 1977-07-24 90 70 1977-07-25 78 70 1977-07-26 82 62 1977-07-27 81 58 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJO812 Posted February 23, 2022 Share Posted February 23, 2022 38 minutes ago, EastonSN+ said: Yeah phase 7 likely by the 15th to 20th timeframe can wreak havoc. Once I reach average snowfall I want a full torch. Signs of the AO going negative 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allsnow Posted February 23, 2022 Share Posted February 23, 2022 1 hour ago, forkyfork said: looks like most of the cold gets dumped west of us thank god Yup. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJO812 Posted February 23, 2022 Share Posted February 23, 2022 2 hours ago, EastonSN+ said: This wave is really amplifying. There goes our spring with phase 7 and 8 likely late March and early April. Probably a late season snow event as well. Go figure. Like clockwork Bring on March and April snow 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EastonSN+ Posted February 23, 2022 Share Posted February 23, 2022 47 minutes ago, Allsnow said: Yup. To me this is terrible. Just delays the inevitable cold and dreary early spring. If you look the GEFS you will see the beginning of the change at the end (likely following the MJO progression to 7). 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
donsutherland1 Posted February 23, 2022 Share Posted February 23, 2022 At Bangor, the 11 am temperature was 62. That surpassed the daily record of 57 from 1984 and the longstanding monthly record of 60 from February 21, 1937. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowman19 Posted February 23, 2022 Share Posted February 23, 2022 1 hour ago, MJO812 said: Signs of the AO going negative Maybe it’ll make for a chilly, rainy end of March lol Spring is coming Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SnoSki14 Posted February 23, 2022 Share Posted February 23, 2022 58 minutes ago, EastonSN+ said: To me this is terrible. Just delays the inevitable cold and dreary early spring. If you look the GEFS you will see the beginning of the change at the end (likely following the MJO progression to 7). I think this is often exaggerated. Sure there could be chilly days but it's pretty likely we average AN overall. Average temps are rapidly going up by then Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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