MJO812 Posted February 16, 2022 Share Posted February 16, 2022 18 minutes ago, EastonSN+ said: Perhaps the forum could correct me, however I feel like while NYC has had a hard time getting 10+ storms in March, Long island gets them far more frequently. What would be the cause of this? Like the storm below, being east seems as important as being north. That month was snowy for the whole area 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluewave Posted February 16, 2022 Share Posted February 16, 2022 1 hour ago, Torch said: There has always been a season “Lag” in the transition months, for those who think it is unusual for cooler springs. The winters warming at a faster rate than the springs gives us the feeling of a delayed start to spring. ISP has had more March snowfall than December snowfall since 11-12. Plus the coldest temperature departures relative to the mean in NYC have been occurring later. The winter typically has the coldest daily temperature departure of the year. But 7 years between 1991 and 2021 featured the coldest daily annual temperature in the spring. There were only 2 years between 1960 and 1990 that this was the case. The last 2 years had the coldest annual departure in May. Record late trace of snow and cold in May 2020 and the record cold for the Memorial Day weekend last year. We went from record 80° temperatures in late February 2018 to record snow in March 2018. https://mesonet.agron.iastate.edu/plotting/auto/?_wait=no&q=32&network=NYCLIMATE&station=NY5801&year=2021&var=avg&gddbase=50&gddceil=86&how=diff&cmap=jet&_r=t&dpi=100&_fmt=png 1991-2021 coldest temperature of year in spring Mar 1993 Mar 1998 Mar 2002 Mar 2007 May 2010 May 2020 May 2021 1960 to 1990 Mar 1967 Mar 1978 Monthly Total Snowfall for ISLIP-LI MACARTHUR AP, NYClick column heading to sort ascending, click again to sort descending. Year Oct Nov Dec Jan Feb Mar Apr Season Mean 0.0 0.8 2.8 14.5 11.9 7.9 0.5 37.6 2021-2022 0.0 T 0.3 31.8 3.3 M M 35.4 2020-2021 T 0.0 7.5 1.1 24.9 T T 33.5 2019-2020 0.0 0.1 4.2 2.5 0.0 T T 6.8 2018-2019 0.0 4.3 T 0.9 3.5 4.1 T 12.8 2017-2018 0.0 T 6.0 22.0 1.4 31.9 4.6 65.9 2016-2017 T T 3.2 14.0 14.7 7.4 T 39.3 2015-2016 0.0 0.0 T 24.8 13.2 3.2 0.2 41.4 2014-2015 0.0 T 0.4 30.2 13.4 19.7 0.0 63.7 2013-2014 0.0 0.3 8.1 25.2 24.5 5.4 0.2 63.7 2012-2013 0.0 4.2 0.6 3.3 31.4 7.4 0.0 46.9 2011-2012 0.3 0.0 T 3.8 0.6 T 0.0 4.7 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EastonSN+ Posted February 16, 2022 Share Posted February 16, 2022 3 minutes ago, MJO812 said: That month was snowy for the whole area March 2013, March 2009 and a few more can be added to the list. I just feel that the 10+ snowfall list is very misleading to the forum. North south east and west of Manhattan. I believe that unless you are in Manhattan your chances of getting a 10+ snowfall in March are pretty decent and probably better than December. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jconsor Posted February 16, 2022 Share Posted February 16, 2022 Trends toward colder last few days of Feb into early Mar have gotten stronger. 5 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian5671 Posted February 16, 2022 Share Posted February 16, 2022 19 minutes ago, MJO812 said: That month was snowy for the whole area March 2018 was wild with 3-4 big storms, lots of blocking and cold (for March) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EastonSN+ Posted February 16, 2022 Share Posted February 16, 2022 8 minutes ago, Brian5671 said: March 2018 was wild with 3-4 big storms, lots of blocking and cold (for March) I feel way more confident in snowy Marches than December. 2013. 2015. 2017. 2018. 2019. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EastonSN+ Posted February 16, 2022 Share Posted February 16, 2022 Heck we even had a good snowstorm in March 2011. It's the forgotten snowstorm as everyone seems to think winter ended after the epic 5 week period. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EastonSN+ Posted February 16, 2022 Share Posted February 16, 2022 March 2009 was another good one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluewave Posted February 16, 2022 Share Posted February 16, 2022 The forecast wave break caused by the near record 930s mb low north of Japan changed the entire pattern going into March from several days ago. We saw a similar event in early December lead to the record Aleutians ridge. This time the very strong block will be further east producing the colder -EPO +PNA pattern for us in early March. New run Old run 5 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EastonSN+ Posted February 16, 2022 Share Posted February 16, 2022 Forgot March 2007 had two snow/sleet storms frigid. Snowed till April 2003. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EastonSN+ Posted February 16, 2022 Share Posted February 16, 2022 March 2004 and 2005 we're very snowy and cold. March 2000 had the big bust but that was poor luck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJO812 Posted February 16, 2022 Share Posted February 16, 2022 9 minutes ago, EastonSN+ said: Forgot March 2007 had two snow/sleet storms frigid. Snowed till April 2003. Winter of 2007 featured 2 sleetstorms Impressive 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LongBeachSurfFreak Posted February 16, 2022 Share Posted February 16, 2022 36 minutes ago, jconsor said: Trends toward colder last few days of Feb into early Mar have gotten stronger. We would definitely salvage a solid winter (new climate) if we can pull off a two week snow pattern at the end of real snow climo. Last week of February and the first week of March really is the end of winter, where you can still hold a snow pack at out latitude. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian5671 Posted February 16, 2022 Share Posted February 16, 2022 11 minutes ago, EastonSN+ said: March 2004 and 2005 we're very snowy and cold. March 2000 had the big bust but that was poor luck. March 2001 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
forkyfork Posted February 16, 2022 Share Posted February 16, 2022 march 2012 and 2016 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EastonSN+ Posted February 16, 2022 Share Posted February 16, 2022 11 minutes ago, forkyfork said: march 2012 and 2016 I remember the snow event in late March 2016 got me to average annual snowfall. Needed 3 and got exactly that. Other than that event was mild. Best of both worlds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
forkyfork Posted February 16, 2022 Share Posted February 16, 2022 who remembers something like that 2 7 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allsnow Posted February 16, 2022 Share Posted February 16, 2022 24 minutes ago, forkyfork said: march 2012 and 2016 Yes please 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monmouth_County_Jacpot Posted February 16, 2022 Share Posted February 16, 2022 Crickets 5 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TriPol Posted February 16, 2022 Share Posted February 16, 2022 Oh FFS. Can we please, just once, have a warm spring? So much has been shut down over the past two years... I just want to get out and enjoy warm weather after work. 2 1 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJO812 Posted February 16, 2022 Share Posted February 16, 2022 Gfs is quicker with the cold air coming back next week 3 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJO812 Posted February 16, 2022 Share Posted February 16, 2022 44 minutes ago, TriPol said: Oh FFS. Can we please, just once, have a warm spring? So much has been shut down over the past two years... I just want to get out and enjoy warm weather after work. March is the new December Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HVSnowLover Posted February 16, 2022 Share Posted February 16, 2022 5 minutes ago, MJO812 said: March is the new December Seems that way although a bit unfortunate as March snowstorms are always battling sun angle and melt a day later. 4 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CPcantmeasuresnow Posted February 16, 2022 Share Posted February 16, 2022 44 minutes ago, TriPol said: Oh FFS. Can we please, just once, have a warm spring? So much has been shut down over the past two years... I just want to get out and enjoy warm weather after work. It depends what everyone's expectations of warm is. To expect constant 60's in March is so far from the norms it would be unhealthy. Even in NYC the average highs don't reach the mid 60's until late in April. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HVSnowLover Posted February 16, 2022 Share Posted February 16, 2022 1 minute ago, CPcantmeasuresnow said: It depends what everyone's expectations of warm is. To expect constant 60's in March is so far from the norms it would be unhealthy. Even in NYC the average highs don't reach the mid 60's until late in April. Agree. The next two days will be close to average mid April highs lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowman19 Posted February 16, 2022 Share Posted February 16, 2022 1 hour ago, Monmouth_County_Jacpot said: Crickets Funny how there’s no mention from you about the torch coming up lol Let’s look ahead to March and ignore it instead 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJO812 Posted February 16, 2022 Share Posted February 16, 2022 2 minutes ago, snowman19 said: Funny how there’s no mention from you about the torch coming up lol Mini torch? 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowman19 Posted February 16, 2022 Share Posted February 16, 2022 1 minute ago, MJO812 said: Mini torch? Let’s talk about March and make believe it’s not going to happen lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HVSnowLover Posted February 16, 2022 Share Posted February 16, 2022 Nice weenie GFS run with snow threats both next Friday, next Sunday, and next Monday. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wthrmn654 Posted February 16, 2022 Share Posted February 16, 2022 8 minutes ago, HVSnowLover said: Seems that way although a bit unfortunate as March snowstorms are always battling sun angle and melt a day later. It could also be that, what I was saying the months switched being simply December is acting like March while march is now acting like how December should be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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