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11 hours ago, uncle W said:

March/April 6" or greater snowstorms in Central Park...

6.0" 3/6-7/1870...

10.0" 4/13/1875...

21.0" 3/12-13/1888

6.0" 3/19/1890...

8.0" 3/17-18/1892...

6.0" 3/4/1893...

10.0" 3/2/1896...

12.0" 3/15-16/1896...

6.5" 3/3/1902...

6.0" 3/15/1906...

6.0" 3/10/1907...

14.5" 3/1-2/1914...

6.7" 3/6-7/1915...

10.2" 4/3-4/1915

7.6" 3/6/1916

6.7" 3/4-5/1917...

6.5" 4/8-9/1917...

7.3" 3/6-7/1923...

8.5" 4/1/1924...

6.4" 4/6-7/1938...

18.1" 3/7-8/1941...

6.4" 4/5/1944...

6.7" 3/16-17/1956...

11.6" 3/18-19/1956...

11.8" 3/20-21/1958...

14.5" 3/3-4/1960...

9.8" 3/21-22/1967...

6.6" 3/1/1968...

8.6" 3/5/1981...

9.6" 4/6/1982...

6.9" 3/8-9/1984...

6.2" 3/19/1992...

10.6" 3/13-14/1993...

7.7" 3/1/2005...

8.3" 3/1-2/2009...

7.5" 3/5/2015...

7.6" 3/14/2017...

8.4" 3/21-22/2018

That April 1915 storm was the same one that dumped close to 20" in Philly wasn't it?

And NYC got close to 6" in the April 2018 snowstorm too?

 

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17 minutes ago, bluewave said:

I ran the numbers for our area between the 81-10 and the new 91-20 climate normals. December is the fastest warming month of winter and the entire year. So the record warmth this December fit the pattern. While spring and March has been warming, the rate is lower than the other seasons of the year.

 

The monthly temperature increases from 81-10 to 91-20 have been more pronounced during certain months. Newark and Islip are compared below. The +1.0 or warmer months for either station were bolded. 

 

……….EWR…..ISP

Dec…+1.5….+1.5

Jan….+1.2…+1.3

Feb….+0.5….+0.5

 

Mar….+0.4….+0.6

Apr….+0.5…..+0.6

May...+0.6….+0.9

 

Jun….+0.3….+0.6

Jul…..+1.4…..+1.1

Aug...+0.6….+0.9

 

Sep….+1.0….+1.3

Oct…..+0.9..+1.4

Nov….+0.2..+0.5

Why is December is warming so much faster than the other months?

 

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18 minutes ago, the_other_guy said:

16F in Hastings.

 

That Heat Island in the city really kicks up just before/during a warm up.

I wonder, scientifically, why that is. 

Probably because radiational cooling is usually at its best just before a warmup begins (because center of High pressure is close by).  And radiational cooling is when the heat island effect rears its ugly head.  I am SO glad the city has a plan to go green, all that ugly concrete needs to be completely torn out of the ground-- but I'd settle for 30% of it being removed by 2030 which is what the plans are to greenify the city and create urban gardens for much more healthy eating of fresh unprocessed food.

 

 

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5 hours ago, HeadInTheClouds said:

Who are you kidding? You posted back in early January I would be wearing short sleeves soon. Define soon because January was 3.5 degrees below normal and February through the first 2 weeks is exactly 1 degree above normal up here. Not exactly beach weather. Just because we will have 1 day near 60 does not make you right. It's currently 15* as I'm typing this. Heat wave I tell ya. 

Statistically speaking almost every damn winter has at least one day above 60 degrees.  People look at normal temperatures way too much.  Mark Twain had a thing or two to say about numbers.....

Heh how many remember that it was in the 60s in February 1994 for a few days after those back to back big snowstorms?

60s is no big deal in the winter.

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Unusually high pressure for our area this morning. It may have allowed some slight radiational cooling at LGA when the winds went calm. One of the rare times that LGA is cooler than NYC and JFK and close to Staten Island. 

600 AM EST WED FEB 16 2022

CITY           SKY/WX    TMP DP  RH WIND       PRES   REMARKS
Central Park   PTCLDY    31  16  54 S3        30.73S
LaGuardia Arpt MOCLDY    28  13  53 CALM      30.72R
Kennedy Intl   PTCLDY    31  20  63 S12       30.74R WCI  22
Newark Liberty PTCLDY    24  12  60 W5        30.72S WCI  18
Teterboro Arpt PTCLDY    21  13  71 N3        30.72R
Bronx Lehman C   N/A     32  16  51 S2          N/A
Queens College   N/A     32  19  59 S2          N/A
Breezy Point   NOT AVBL
Brooklyn Coll    N/A     32  21  64 S7          N/A  WCI  26
Staten Island    N/A     27  16  63 W2          N/A
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11 hours ago, LongBeachSurfFreak said:

I don’t think March’s are becoming colder, they just feel colder with early winter warming. It’s pretty easy to see the connection to diminishing sea ice. The open water holds heat and it takes time for the Arctic to cool fully and that effects our cold air source. 

The Arctic is exactly where we need the most climate engineering.  Fix the Arctic and that will fix everything else as far as that is concerned.  How much liquid nitrogen do we need to dump there eh? ;-)

 

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9 minutes ago, LibertyBell said:

Statistically speaking almost every damn winter has at least one day above 60 degrees.  People look at normal temperatures way too much.  Mark Twain had a thing or two to say about numbers.....

Heh how many remember that it was in the 60s in February 1994 for a few days after those back to back big snowstorms?

60s is no big deal in the winter.

This many 60 degree days  used to be rare during the winter. Now we are approaching 10 days this winter. So we are able to get the odd juxtaposition of winter 60s and snow close together which was typically the domain of March and April snows in the old days. 
 

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6 minutes ago, bluewave said:

This many 60 degree days  used to be rare during the winter. Now we are approaching 10 days this winter. So we are able to get the odd juxtaposition of winter 60s and snow close together which was typically the domain of March and April snows in the old days. 
 

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Yes, the quantity near the high end is itself reaching record levels, but if we're talking about the highest temps we achieve each winter, that's pretty stable, no?  So you could have let's say 8-9 60 degree highs now vs maybe 4-5 decades ago?  But the top end high temps are around the same?  Maybe there's a ceiling for the extreme temps and they very rarely get beyond a certain number-- for the winter I'd estimate that to be 70.  We very rarely get temps AOB 70 and that hasn't changed since record keeping started.  It would be interesting to bracket the frequency of high end temps....so let's say how many 60+ highs vs an earlier period, how many 65+ highs vs back then, how many 68+ (20C+) highs vs back then, 70+ etc.  The higher up you go, the less the differences I would imagine, as we get closer to the ceiling.

 

We're getting closer to a Denver type climate, I just wish the humidity would get as low as it is there.  I love warm days and cool nights...we have some of that in Fall (November), but in Denver that's a common pattern.

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4 minutes ago, LibertyBell said:

Yes, the quantity near the high end is itself reaching record levels, but if we're talking about the highest temps we achieve each winter, that's pretty stable, no?  So you could have let's say 8-9 60 degree highs now vs maybe 4-5 decades ago?  But the top end high temps are around the same?  Maybe there's a ceiling for the extreme temps and they very rarely get beyond a certain number-- for the winter I'd estimate that to be 70.  We very rarely get temps AOB 70 and that hasn't changed since record keeping started.  It would be interesting to bracket the frequency of high end temps....so let's say how many 60+ highs vs an earlier period, how many 65+ highs vs back then, how many 68+ (20C+) highs vs back then, 70+ etc.  The higher up you go, the less the differences I would imagine, as we get closer to the ceiling.

 

We're getting closer to a Denver type climate, I just wish the humidity would get as low as it is there.  I love warm days and cool nights...we have some of that in Fall (November), but in Denver that's a common pattern.

The top end winter 70-80° days have been increasing also.

 

Time Series Summary for NEWARK LIBERTY INTL AP, NJ - Dec through Feb
Click column heading to sort ascending, click again to sort descending.
Rank
Season
Highest Max Temperature 
Missing Count
1 2017-2018 80 0
2 1998-1999 76 0
- 1948-1949 76 0
3 2016-2017 74 0
- 2001-2002 74 0
- 1996-1997 74 0
- 1953-1954 74 0
- 1949-1950 74 0
4 1984-1985 73 0
5 2006-2007 72 0
- 1982-1983 72 0
- 1946-1947 72 0
6 2015-2016 71 0
- 2013-2014 71 0
- 2010-2011 71 0
7 2019-2020 70 0
- 1997-1998 70 0
- 1978-1979 70 0
- 1938-1939 70 0
- 1931-1932 70 0
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29 minutes ago, bluewave said:

The top end winter 70-80° days have been increasing also.

 

Time Series Summary for NEWARK LIBERTY INTL AP, NJ - Dec through Feb
Click column heading to sort ascending, click again to sort descending.
Rank
Season
Highest Max Temperature 
Missing Count
1 2017-2018 80 0
2 1998-1999 76 0
- 1948-1949 76 0
3 2016-2017 74 0
- 2001-2002 74 0
- 1996-1997 74 0
- 1953-1954 74 0
- 1949-1950 74 0
4 1984-1985 73 0
5 2006-2007 72 0
- 1982-1983 72 0
- 1946-1947 72 0
6 2015-2016 71 0
- 2013-2014 71 0
- 2010-2011 71 0
7 2019-2020 70 0
- 1997-1998 70 0
- 1978-1979 70 0
- 1938-1939 70 0
- 1931-1932 70 0

Thats Newark though, the area hot spot.  I noticed those of us to the east of there haven't seen any 80 degree temps in winter (the latest was 80 on November 15, 1993 if I remember correctly.)  I'm always suspect of Newark temps because they are even warmer than Philly; Newark should be classified in a different climate type than the one we're in.

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1 minute ago, EastonSN+ said:

Definitely colder but would want that trough a bit further west to avoid suppression.

Agree

Although  the models right now are showing a swfe pattern . This would be ideal. 

There are also signs of the EPO and PNA going favorable again.

The wavelengths are also shorter in March so storms don't need alot of space to amplify.

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2 minutes ago, MJO812 said:

Agree

Although  the models right now are showing a swfe pattern . This would be ideal. 

There are also signs of the EPO and PNA going favorable again.

The wavelengths are also shorter in March so storms don't need alot of space to amplify.

This is where a SE ridge flex would help us!

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