MJO812 Posted February 10, 2022 Share Posted February 10, 2022 5 minutes ago, Allsnow said: Shut it down…she is done. Let’s torch Hell no 2 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
donsutherland1 Posted February 10, 2022 Share Posted February 10, 2022 Temperatures surged into the middle 50s across much of the region today. Some areas matched or beat their daily records. Islip: 56° (old record: 54°, 2001) New York City-JFK: 56° (tied record set in 2001) Much of the rest of this week will see above normal temperatures before the next cold front reaches the region during the weekend. That cold shot will likely be fairly sharp but short-lived. An offshore storm could bring a light snow to parts of the region late Sunday into Monday. There is consensus on the long range ensembles that the second half of February will likely experience a significant pattern change. Ridging would develop in the East with the persistent trough heading westward. That pattern change would lead to a return of sustained above normal readings after mid-month. The warmer pattern will likely prevail through at least the end of February. Some guidance suggests that readings could rise to well above normal levels during the closing week of the month. The EPS continues to forecast the development of an EPO+/AO+/PNA- pattern around February 20th. Such a pattern favors above to much above normal temperatures in the Middle Atlantic and southern New England regions. The ENSO Region 1+2 anomaly was -1.0°C and the Region 3.4 anomaly was -0.6°C for the week centered around February 2. For the past six weeks, the ENSO Region 1+2 anomaly has averaged -0.80°C and the ENSO Region 3.4 anomaly has averaged -0.83°C. La Niña conditions will likely persist through meteorological winter. The SOI was +10.09 today. The preliminary Arctic Oscillation (AO) was +1.795. On February 8 the MJO was in Phase 2 at an amplitude of 1.061 (RMM). The February 7-adjusted amplitude was 1.153 (RMM). Based on sensitivity analysis applied to the latest guidance, there is an implied 71% probability that New York City will have a warmer than normal February (1991-2020 normal). February will likely finish with a mean temperature near 37.7° (1.8° above normal). 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allsnow Posted February 10, 2022 Share Posted February 10, 2022 Weeklies have cold end to March with blocking developing lol 1 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rtd208 Posted February 10, 2022 Share Posted February 10, 2022 2 minutes ago, Allsnow said: Weeklies have cold end to March with blocking developing lol Just in time for spring. Let's enjoy the cold rain nor'easters. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian5671 Posted February 10, 2022 Share Posted February 10, 2022 28 minutes ago, Allsnow said: Weeklies have cold end to March with blocking developing lol like clockwork 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gravitylover Posted February 11, 2022 Share Posted February 11, 2022 I don't think I can handle another uselessly snowy beginning of spring. Another cold and wet April can't happen. Nope. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluewave Posted February 11, 2022 Share Posted February 11, 2022 Sometimes you just have to laugh. 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
donsutherland1 Posted February 11, 2022 Share Posted February 11, 2022 The EPS weeklies for the last week in February. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJO812 Posted February 11, 2022 Share Posted February 11, 2022 9 minutes ago, donsutherland1 said: The EPS weeklies for the last week in February. Yuck 1 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nycwinter Posted February 11, 2022 Share Posted February 11, 2022 i love cold springs maybe it will last well into may.. some may and june days not to long ago had temps in the 90;s so i will enjoy the cold or cool weather for as long as it can last until summer is here to stay.. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
donsutherland1 Posted February 11, 2022 Share Posted February 11, 2022 42 minutes ago, MJO812 said: Yuck Hopefully, the 2 week cool down in March will wind up cooler than modeled with perhaps a well-timed storm. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LibertyBell Posted February 11, 2022 Share Posted February 11, 2022 4 hours ago, MJO812 said: Hell no this forum is going to empty out until the first summer super heatwave. No one cares about any other kind of weather here and they shouldn't Severe weather sure, but it rarely happens on the coast and the chances of it happening are so small in the spring around here that it's not worth bothering about until May. I think we'll end up in the political sub forum duking it out before the end of February lol. Now there's a place where the drama never ends lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LibertyBell Posted February 11, 2022 Share Posted February 11, 2022 4 hours ago, donsutherland1 said: Temperatures surged into the middle 50s across much of the region today. Some areas matched or beat their daily records. Islip: 56° (old record: 54°, 2001) New York City-JFK: 56° (tied record set in 2001) Much of the rest of this week will see above normal temperatures before the next cold front reaches the region during the weekend. That cold shot will likely be fairly sharp but short-lived. An offshore storm could bring a light snow to parts of the region late Sunday into Monday. There is consensus on the long range ensembles that the second half of February will likely experience a significant pattern change. Ridging would develop in the East with the persistent trough heading westward. That pattern change would lead to a return of sustained above normal readings after mid-month. The warmer pattern will likely prevail through at least the end of February. Some guidance suggests that readings could rise to well above normal levels during the closing week of the month. The EPS continues to forecast the development of an EPO+/AO+/PNA- pattern around February 20th. Such a pattern favors above to much above normal temperatures in the Middle Atlantic and southern New England regions. The ENSO Region 1+2 anomaly was -1.0°C and the Region 3.4 anomaly was -0.6°C for the week centered around February 2. For the past six weeks, the ENSO Region 1+2 anomaly has averaged -0.80°C and the ENSO Region 3.4 anomaly has averaged -0.83°C. La Niña conditions will likely persist through meteorological winter. The SOI was +10.09 today. The preliminary Arctic Oscillation (AO) was +1.795. On February 8 the MJO was in Phase 2 at an amplitude of 1.061 (RMM). The February 7-adjusted amplitude was 1.153 (RMM). Based on sensitivity analysis applied to the latest guidance, there is an implied 71% probability that New York City will have a warmer than normal February (1991-2020 normal). February will likely finish with a mean temperature near 37.7° (1.8° above normal). Don there wont be a significant pattern change in the second half of February. It already happened lol, this is the pattern change the warm weather is here. The whatever we get Sunday is just a small gnat on the windshield of warmth thats already here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LibertyBell Posted February 11, 2022 Share Posted February 11, 2022 4 hours ago, Rtd208 said: Just in time for spring. Let's enjoy the cold rain nor'easters. April 1997 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LibertyBell Posted February 11, 2022 Share Posted February 11, 2022 2 hours ago, bluewave said: Sometimes you just have to laugh. Wait Islip had measurable snow in May 2020? or did they have a perfect 0 in February? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LibertyBell Posted February 11, 2022 Share Posted February 11, 2022 1 hour ago, nycwinter said: i love cold springs maybe it will last well into may.. some may and june days not to long ago had temps in the 90;s so i will enjoy the cold or cool weather for as long as it can last until summer is here to stay.. I loved April 2002 (and the summer that followed) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LibertyBell Posted February 11, 2022 Share Posted February 11, 2022 1 hour ago, donsutherland1 said: Hopefully, the 2 week cool down in March will wind up cooler than modeled with perhaps a well-timed storm. 2 week cooldown, Don? When is that supposed to happen- around March 15th? On average our last measurable snowfall is around March 20th so timed well with the equinox. I think our first measurable snowfall averages around December 20th, timed well with the solstice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
donsutherland1 Posted February 11, 2022 Share Posted February 11, 2022 10 minutes ago, LibertyBell said: Don there wont be a significant pattern change in the second half of February. It already happened lol, this is the pattern change the warm weather is here. The whatever we get Sunday is just a small gnat on the windshield of warmth thats already here My reference deals with sustained ridging returning to the East. Warmth has developed sooner. February 1-10 was about 1.5 degrees above normal. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
donsutherland1 Posted February 11, 2022 Share Posted February 11, 2022 7 minutes ago, LibertyBell said: 2 week cooldown, Don? When is that supposed to happen- around March 15th? On average our last measurable snowfall is around March 20th so timed well with the equinox. I think our first measurable snowfall averages around December 20th, timed well with the solstice. After the 1st week in March. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRRTA22 Posted February 11, 2022 Share Posted February 11, 2022 1 hour ago, nycwinter said: i love cold springs maybe it will last well into may.. some may and june days not to long ago had temps in the 90;s so i will enjoy the cold or cool weather for as long as it can last until summer is here to stay.. No. Cold past april is depressing. After april give us 60s and 70s. If its cold its usually misty and foggy under cloudy skies with temps in the 40s. No ty Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LibertyBell Posted February 11, 2022 Share Posted February 11, 2022 5 minutes ago, donsutherland1 said: My reference deals with sustained ridging returning to the East. Warmth has developed sooner. February 1-10 was about 1.5 degrees above normal. Don what are the chances that February can average at or above 40? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LibertyBell Posted February 11, 2022 Share Posted February 11, 2022 7 minutes ago, donsutherland1 said: After the 1st week in March. So the colder pattern is coming back before March 10th Don? Maybe something like 2017 or 2018? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
donsutherland1 Posted February 11, 2022 Share Posted February 11, 2022 32 minutes ago, LibertyBell said: Don what are the chances that February can average at or above 40? I think we’ll fall short of a 40-degree mean temperature. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
donsutherland1 Posted February 11, 2022 Share Posted February 11, 2022 30 minutes ago, LibertyBell said: So the colder pattern is coming back before March 10th Don? Maybe something like 2017 or 2018? If the EPS Iis right, it will turn cooler. It still doesn’t look exceptionally cold, but there’s a lot of time for changes. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CIK62 Posted February 11, 2022 Share Posted February 11, 2022 The next 8 days are averaging 40degs.(33/48) or +5. Month to date is 35.9[+1.6]. Should be. 37.7[+3.1] by the 19th. Ground white or up to 2" snow Sunday/Monday on the strength of low T/high ratio? Reached 54 here yesterday. Today: 55, m. clear, few clouds, wind s. 44*(48%RH) here at 6am. 42* at 7am. 47* at Noon. Only reached 48* at 5pm. Up to 53* at 11pm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gravitylover Posted February 11, 2022 Share Posted February 11, 2022 8 hours ago, LibertyBell said: this forum is going to empty out until the first summer super heatwave. No one cares about any other kind of weather here and they shouldn't Severe weather sure, but it rarely happens on the coast and the chances of it happening are so small in the spring around here that it's not worth bothering about until May. I think we'll end up in the political sub forum duking it out before the end of February lol. Now there's a place where the drama never ends lol. You did it again. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
donsutherland1 Posted February 11, 2022 Share Posted February 11, 2022 Morning thoughts… It will be mostly sunny and very mild. High temperatures will likely reach the middle 50s in most of the region. Southern New Jersey and southeastern Pennsylvania could see the mercury approach or reach 60°. Likely high temperatures around the region include: New York City (Central Park): 55° Newark: 55° Philadelphia: 60° Temperatures will remain above normal into the weekend before colder air returns on Sunday. A light snowfall is possible in parts of the region on Sunday. Normals: New York City: 30-Year: 41.4°; 15-Year: 41.4° Newark: 30-Year: 42.1°; 15-Year: 42.2° Philadelphia: 30-Year: 43.4°; 15-Year: 43.2° Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluewave Posted February 11, 2022 Share Posted February 11, 2022 Record warmth and record snowfall have become the new winter normals on Long Island. RECORD EVENT REPORT NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE NEW YORK, NY 0421 PM EDT THU FEB 10 2022 ...RECORD HIGH TEMPERATURE SET AT ISLIP MACARTHUR AIRPORT... A RECORD HIGH TEMPERATURE OF 56 WAS SET AT ISLIP MACARTHUR AIRPORT TODAY. THIS BREAKS THE OLD RECORD OF 54 SET IN 2001. RECORDS GO BACK TO THE YEAR 1963 AT THIS CLIMATE STATION. RECORD EVENT REPORT...CORRECTED NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE NEW YORK, NY 616 PM EST SUN JAN 30 2022 ...RECORD DAILY MAXIMUM SNOWFALL SET AT ISLIP NY FOR JANUARY 29TH... ...RECORD DAILY MAXIMUM SNOWFALL SET AT ISLIP NY FOR ANY CALENDAR DAY... A RECORD SNOWFALL OF 23.5 INCHES WAS SET AT ISLIP NY FOR JANUARY 29TH. THIS BREAKS THE OLD RECORD FOR THIS DATE OF 1.5 INCHES SET IN 2014. THIS SNOWFALL OF 23.5 INCHES ON JANUARY 29TH 2022 ALSO BREAKS THE PREVIOUS CALENDAR DAY MAXIMUM SNOWFALL RECORD OF 23.4 INCHES OF SNOWFALL RECORDED ON JANUARY 23RD 2016. RECORDS GO BACK TO THE YEAR 1963 AT THIS CLIMATE STATION. RECORD EVENT REPORT NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE NEW YORK, NY 0206 PM EDT SUN JAN 02 2022 ...RECORD HIGH TEMPERATURE SET AT ISLIP MACARTHUR AIRPORT... A RECORD HIGH TEMPERATURE OF 58 WAS SET AT ISLIP MACARTHUR AIRPORT TODAY. THIS BREAKS THE OLD RECORD OF 57 SET IN 2000. RECORDS GO BACK TO THE YEAR 1963 AT THIS CLIMATE STATION. RECORD EVENT REPORT NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE NEW YORK, NY 137 AM EST FRI DEC 17 2021 ...RECORD HIGH MINIMUM TEMPERATURE SET AT ISLIP NY... A RECORD HIGH MINIMUM TEMPERATURE OF 52 WAS SET AT ISLIP NY YESTERDAY. THIS BREAK THE OLD RECORD OF 49 SET IN 1971. RECORDS GO BACK TO THE YEAR 1963 AT THIS CLIMATE STATION. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJO812 Posted February 11, 2022 Share Posted February 11, 2022 Euro mjo Goes right through 3-4 then 5 by the end of this month . 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluewave Posted February 11, 2022 Share Posted February 11, 2022 14 minutes ago, MJO812 said: Euro mjo Goes right through 3-4 then 5 by the end of this month . This MJO wave may be important as to what type of weather patterns we get next winter. El Niño events usually need the MJO to make a strong push into phase 7 in March. That phase in the WPAC usually brings a WWB pattern which warms the Pacific. Both the EPS and GEFS have the MJO going into phases 4-5 for the rest of February and early March. If the MJO stalls out again near phase 6 in early March, then any return to cooler in March will get pushed back. The MJO not making a strong enough push into 7 could also mean the ENSO gets struck in neutral with a La Niña background state possibly remaining entrenched again for next winter. 3 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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