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3 minutes ago, snowman19 said:

@AllsnowCall me crazy but I think the models may be too aggressive/overdone with the EPO/PNA pump for early March, we have seen this many times in the past few winters. Then they correct weaker or even lose it as we get closer in time….I don’t think they lose it but I can certainly see them correct weaker. There is also a very real possibility that the gradient sets up to our north and we end up on the wrong/warm side of it, some of the operational runs in all 3 major globals have shown this possibility

Who's we? There is a big difference in climo between I84 and Long island and coastal Jersey. All globals showing a wintry possibility N and W. 

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5 minutes ago, snowman19 said:

@AllsnowCall me crazy but I think the models may be too aggressive/overdone with the EPO/PNA pump for early March, we have seen this many times in the past few winters. Then they correct weaker or even lose it as we get closer in time….I don’t think they lose it but I can certainly see them correct weaker. There is also a very real possibility that the gradient sets up to our north and we end up on the wrong/warm side of it, some of the operational runs in all 3 major globals have shown this possibility

Why are you like this lol. But honestly there is always that possibility. It’s a wait and see at this point

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48 minutes ago, HeadInTheClouds said:

We never go through a winter without warmer periods. Things look to change late Feb into early March. 

Well, of course we always have warm days in winter here. The point was (and was verified by a chart posted a couple pages back) that the number of 60 degree days in winter here is steadily increasing as the overall climate system warms. 

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7 minutes ago, Volcanic Winter said:

Well, of course we always have warm days in winter here. The point was (and was verified by a chart posted a couple pages back) that the number of 60 degree days in winter here is steadily increasing as the overall climate system warms. 

I am definitely a believer that global warming is real and concerning but this winter is probably not a great example since we've been in the icebox for the mostpart basically since the start of January.  

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15 minutes ago, dmillz25 said:

Why are you like this lol. But honestly there is always that possibility. It’s a wait and see at this point

He's a troll. Ignore it. He's been hilariously wrong all year and gets things right about as often as a dead clock.

So far the ensembles are favorable for late Feb into March. Can they change warmer, sure, but until that happens the colder path is more probable.

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25 minutes ago, HVSnowLover said:

I am definitely a believer that global warming is real and concerning but this winter is probably not a great example since we've been in the icebox for the mostpart basically since the start of January.  

Absolutely, not every specific event is tied to it and and extreme, variable weather always occurred. Was just making a general point not specific to this winter per se. 
 

As someone who enjoys the cold, I simply try to cherish each cold day that we get.

Or perhaps, I should’ve just been born during the LIA. People were a bit stinkier back then but I’d be in my winter glory nonetheless. 

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45 minutes ago, SnoSki14 said:

He's a troll. Ignore it. He's been hilariously wrong all year and gets things right about as often as a dead clock.

So far the ensembles are favorable for late Feb into March. Can they change warmer, sure, but until that happens the colder path is more probable.

You are the worst poster here, hands down. You haven’t a clue what you’re talking about

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23 minutes ago, Volcanic Winter said:

Warmth appears to be overperforming a bit at my two locations. 65 at work in Hillside and 65 at my house in TR. 

As we continue to warm, it’s easier for the warmth to beat model guidance. We started out with one of the warmest Decembers on record. While January was our coldest in years, the cold wasn’t anywhere close to the magnitude of the warmth in December. The average around 30° was well outside top 10 coldest range that we have experienced in the past. The back and forth February makes the cold days seem colder. But the warm days have been setting records. So the record warmth will result in a warmer than average February and winter as a whole. This will be our 7th warmer than average winter in a row.  3rd warmest December in NYC against 55th coldest January. 2004 was the last time that January almost made it to top 10 coldest.
 

Warmest Decembers

 

Time Series Summary for NY CITY CENTRAL PARK, NY - Month of Dec
Click column heading to sort ascending, click again to sort descending.
Rank
Year
Mean Avg Temperature 
Missing Count
1 2015 50.8 0
2 2001 44.1 0
3 2021 43.8 0
4 1984 43.7 0
5 2006 43.6 0
6 2011 43.3 0
7 1998 43.1 0
8 1982 42.7 0
9 1990 42.6 0
10 1891 42.5 0
11 1994 42.2 0
12 1923 42.0 0
13 2012 41.5 0
14 1996 41.3 0
- 1953 41.3 0
16 1979 41.1 0
17 1956 40.9 0
- 1931 40.9 0
19 1971 40.8 0
20 2014 40.5 0
- 1965 40.5 0
22 1957 40.2 0
23 2018 40.1 0


Coldest Januaries

Time Series Summary for NY CITY CENTRAL PARK, NY - Month of Jan
Click column heading to sort ascending, click again to sort descending.
Rank
Year
Mean Avg Temperature 
Missing Count
1 1918 21.7 0
2 1977 22.0 0
3 1888 23.2 0
4 1920 23.4 0
5 1875 23.6 1
6 1912 23.7 0
7 1893 23.8 0
8 1883 24.4 0
9 1884 24.5 0
10 1881 24.6 0
11 2004 24.7 0
12 1940 25.0 0
13 1970 25.1 0
14 1945 25.2 0
15 1904 25.3 0
16 1948 25.4 0
17 1994 25.5 0
18 1879 25.9 2
19 1886 26.0 0
20 1982 26.1 0
21 1981 26.2 0
22 1968 26.7 0
23 1971 26.9 0
24 1976 27.3 0
25 1873 27.4 0
26 2003 27.5 0
27 1961 27.7 0
- 1877 27.7 0
29 2009 27.9 0
30 1978 28.0 0
31 1871 28.1 2
32 1922 28.2 0
33 1887 28.3 0
- 1882 28.3 0
35 1925 28.4 0
36 1957 28.5 0
37 2014 28.6 0
38 1985 28.8 0
- 1935 28.8 0
40 1885 29.1 0
- 1872 29.1 0
42 1936 29.3 0
- 1905 29.3 0
44 1941 29.4 0
45 1988 29.5 0
46 1965 29.6 0
- 1895 29.6 0
48 2011 29.7 0
49 2015 29.9 0
- 1984 29.9 0
- 1923 29.9 0
- 1878 29.9 0
53 1896 30.0 0
54 1963 30.1 0
55 2022 30.3 0
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8 minutes ago, bluewave said:

As we continue to warm, it’s easier for the warmth to beat model guidance. We started out with one of the warmest Decembers on record. While January was our coldest in years, the cold wasn’t anywhere close to the magnitude of the warmth in December. The average around 30° was well outside top 10 coldest range that we have experienced in the past. The back and forth February makes the cold days seem colder. But the warm days have been setting records. So the record warmth will result in a warmer than average February and winter as a whole. This will be our 7th warmer than average winter in a row.  3rd warmest December in NYC against 55th coldest January. 2004 was the last time that January almost made it to top 10 coldest.
 

Warmest Decembers

 

Time Series Summary for NY CITY CENTRAL PARK, NY - Month of Dec
Click column heading to sort ascending, click again to sort descending.
Rank
Year
Mean Avg Temperature 
Missing Count
1 2015 50.8 0
2 2001 44.1 0
3 2021 43.8 0
4 1984 43.7 0
5 2006 43.6 0
6 2011 43.3 0
7 1998 43.1 0
8 1982 42.7 0
9 1990 42.6 0
10 1891 42.5 0
11 1994 42.2 0
12 1923 42.0 0
13 2012 41.5 0
14 1996 41.3 0
- 1953 41.3 0
16 1979 41.1 0
17 1956 40.9 0
- 1931 40.9 0
19 1971 40.8 0
20 2014 40.5 0
- 1965 40.5 0
22 1957 40.2 0
23 2018 40.1 0


Coldest Januaries

Time Series Summary for NY CITY CENTRAL PARK, NY - Month of Jan
Click column heading to sort ascending, click again to sort descending.
Rank
Year
Mean Avg Temperature 
Missing Count
1 1918 21.7 0
2 1977 22.0 0
3 1888 23.2 0
4 1920 23.4 0
5 1875 23.6 1
6 1912 23.7 0
7 1893 23.8 0
8 1883 24.4 0
9 1884 24.5 0
10 1881 24.6 0
11 2004 24.7 0
12 1940 25.0 0
13 1970 25.1 0
14 1945 25.2 0
15 1904 25.3 0
16 1948 25.4 0
17 1994 25.5 0
18 1879 25.9 2
19 1886 26.0 0
20 1982 26.1 0
21 1981 26.2 0
22 1968 26.7 0
23 1971 26.9 0
24 1976 27.3 0
25 1873 27.4 0
26 2003 27.5 0
27 1961 27.7 0
- 1877 27.7 0
29 2009 27.9 0
30 1978 28.0 0
31 1871 28.1 2
32 1922 28.2 0
33 1887 28.3 0
- 1882 28.3 0
35 1925 28.4 0
36 1957 28.5 0
37 2014 28.6 0
38 1985 28.8 0
- 1935 28.8 0
40 1885 29.1 0
- 1872 29.1 0
42 1936 29.3 0
- 1905 29.3 0
44 1941 29.4 0
45 1988 29.5 0
46 1965 29.6 0
- 1895 29.6 0
48 2011 29.7 0
49 2015 29.9 0
- 1984 29.9 0
- 1923 29.9 0
- 1878 29.9 0
53 1896 30.0 0
54 1963 30.1 0
55 2022 30.3 0

Bluewave,

I say this with great respect for the other intelligent posters here that contribute insightful commentary and information, but if I could choose the “A WX Best User of Winter 21-22” award, it would be going to you.

Always contributing useful and relevant analysis and information. In my short time here it’s much appreciated.  

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This storm for next Friday is showing up on basically every run of every model and it's coming across the country so not likely it will just dissapear but the question is if it's going to be a wintry event or a cutter that changes the pattern.  
Starting first week in March snow quickly melts on roads after the storm. So that is ideal for me. Like the look, hate the travel. By the second week in March I barely need to shovel my driveway with less than six inches

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4 minutes ago, Volcanic Winter said:

Bluewave,

I say this with great respect for the other intelligent posters here that contribute insightful commentary and information, but if I could choose the “A WX Best User of Winter 21-22” award, it would be going to you.

Always contributing useful and relevant analysis and information. In my short time here it’s much appreciated.  

Thanks for the compliments. I enjoy your posts also. The Xmacis2 site allows for us to put everything in context. The volatility in these patterns certainly introduces challenges for long range forecasting. 

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1 minute ago, MJO812 said:

I'm sweating

Not good

I find 60s very comfortable. Looking forward to running with a t-shirt on this afternoon. I love winter and snow, but it's nice to have some of these very warm days mixed in. I don't mind the more Colorado style winters that we've had in recent years, with the combination of warmer temps but still getting plenty of snow.

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