Blizzard of 93 Posted March 30, 2022 Share Posted March 30, 2022 CTP updated the Advisory a little earlier this evening. Winter Weather Advisory URGENT - WINTER WEATHER MESSAGE National Weather Service State College PA 654 PM EDT Tue Mar 29 2022 PAZ006-012-019-026>028-036-037-041-042-045-046-049>052-056-057- 063-301100- /O.CON.KCTP.WW.Y.0018.220330T1000Z-220330T1800Z/ Potter-Northern Clinton-Southern Centre-Huntingdon-Mifflin- Juniata-Franklin-Tioga-Northern Lycoming-Sullivan- Southern Clinton-Southern Lycoming-Union-Snyder-Montour- Northumberland-Perry-Dauphin-Cumberland- Including the cities of Coudersport, Renovo, State College, Huntingdon, Mount Union, Lewistown, Mifflintown, Chambersburg, Mansfield, Wellsboro, Trout Run, Laporte, Lock Haven, Williamsport, Lewisburg, Selinsgrove, Danville, Sunbury, Shamokin, Newport, Harrisburg, Hershey, and Carlisle 654 PM EDT Tue Mar 29 2022 ...WINTER WEATHER ADVISORY REMAINS IN EFFECT FROM 6 AM TO 2 PM EDT WEDNESDAY... * WHAT...Light mixed precipitation expected. Total snow and sleet accumulations of less than an inch and ice accumulations of a light glaze. * WHERE...Portions of central Pennsylvania. * WHEN...From 6 AM to 2 PM EDT Wednesday. * IMPACTS...Plan on slippery road conditions. The hazardous conditions could impact the morning commute. * ADDITIONAL DETAILS...The light mixed precipitation is most likely to begin around 8 am in State College and Gettysburg, around 9 am in Harrisburg, and around 10 am in Williamsport and Mansfield. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bubbler86 Posted March 30, 2022 Author Share Posted March 30, 2022 Look at @Cashtown_Coop. 28/17. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blizzard of 93 Posted March 30, 2022 Share Posted March 30, 2022 Good discussion from CTP about the event tomorrow. SHORT TERM /2 AM WEDNESDAY MORNING THROUGH 6 PM WEDNESDAY/... Increasing warm advection ahead of a warm front in the Ohio Valley should spread increasing/thickening clouds into the region later tonight/early Wed. A several hour period of light freezing rain and sleet appears likely late tonight and Wed morning, as isentropic ascent at the nose of low level jet lifts through the region. The strongest frontogenetic forcing and highest POPs are painted over the northwest half of the forecast area. Model soundings indicate low levels will remain cold enough for any light precipitation to fall mainly as freezing rain, with a bit of sleet or snow possible at the onset over the northeastern part of the forecast area where the cold wedge will be deepest. Ensemble mean qpf is around one tenth of an inch or less, but a trace to 0.10 inch of ice could result in slippery travel for the Wed AM commute. A winter weather advisory has been issued for the western 2/3 of our zones, where the QPF is highest and expected to fall while sfc temperatures are still below freezing. The Lower Susq and far eastern zones (Schuylkill and Columbia Co) are not included in the advisory because at this time it appears precip will be lighter and hold off until a couple hours after sunrise, at which time sfc temps are more likely to be above freezing and a glaze of ice is less likely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mahantango#1 Posted March 30, 2022 Share Posted March 30, 2022 tomorrow central and eastern Pa. is back to the slight risk. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blizzard of 93 Posted March 30, 2022 Share Posted March 30, 2022 CTP reissued the Advisory this morning Winter Weather Advisory URGENT - WINTER WEATHER MESSAGE National Weather Service State College PA 442 AM EDT Wed Mar 30 2022 PAZ006-012-019-026>028-036-037-041-042-045-046-049>052-056-057- 063-301800- /O.CON.KCTP.WW.Y.0018.220330T1000Z-220330T1800Z/ Potter-Northern Clinton-Southern Centre-Huntingdon-Mifflin- Juniata-Franklin-Tioga-Northern Lycoming-Sullivan- Southern Clinton-Southern Lycoming-Union-Snyder-Montour- Northumberland-Perry-Dauphin-Cumberland- Including the cities of Coudersport, Renovo, State College, Huntingdon, Mount Union, Lewistown, Mifflintown, Chambersburg, Mansfield, Wellsboro, Trout Run, Laporte, Lock Haven, Williamsport, Lewisburg, Selinsgrove, Danville, Sunbury, Shamokin, Newport, Harrisburg, Hershey, and Carlisle 442 AM EDT Wed Mar 30 2022 ...WINTER WEATHER ADVISORY REMAINS IN EFFECT UNTIL 2 PM EDT THIS AFTERNOON... * WHAT...Mixed precipitation expected. Total snow and sleet accumulations of less than one half inch and ice accumulations of a light glaze. * WHERE...Portions of central Pennsylvania. * WHEN...Until 2 PM EDT this afternoon. * IMPACTS...Plan on slippery road conditions especially bridges and overpasses. The hazardous conditions could impact the morning commute. * ADDITIONAL DETAILS...The light mixed precipitation is most likely to begin around 8 AM in State College and Gettysburg, around 10 AM in Harrisburg, and around 11 AM in Williamsport and Mansfield. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mahantango#1 Posted March 30, 2022 Share Posted March 30, 2022 How does this happen in todays world? We can do better to eliminate this. Snow squalls that caused 50-car pileup went undetected by weather radar almost 2 hours after crash https://www.pennlive.com/news/2022/03/snow-squalls-that-caused-50-car-pileup-went-undetected-by-weather-radar-almost-2-hours-after-crash.html?utm_medium=social&utm_source=facebook&utm_campaign=pennlive_sf&fbclid=IwAR317BxOM1FvBMVBC-WA8V8Djv1K19xXNsDJu1_M Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bubbler86 Posted March 30, 2022 Author Share Posted March 30, 2022 32 and dry right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paweather Posted March 30, 2022 Share Posted March 30, 2022 Dry sun is almost out Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bubbler86 Posted March 30, 2022 Author Share Posted March 30, 2022 23 minutes ago, paweather said: Dry sun is almost out LOL 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bubbler86 Posted March 30, 2022 Author Share Posted March 30, 2022 Light snow just broke out here. 10th day in March with snow falling or boots on ground. I am a believer in winter in March now. Will not poo-poo it anymore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paweather Posted March 30, 2022 Share Posted March 30, 2022 1 minute ago, Bubbler86 said: LOL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mahantango#1 Posted March 30, 2022 Share Posted March 30, 2022 sunrise this morning. 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bubbler86 Posted March 30, 2022 Author Share Posted March 30, 2022 Just now, mahantango#1 said: sunrise this morning. Nice pics. Hopefully you are not sailing this AM? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mahantango#1 Posted March 30, 2022 Share Posted March 30, 2022 1 minute ago, Bubbler86 said: Nice pics. Hopefully you are not sailing this AM? Thanks! no sailing. Got down to 21 this morning, was colder than I expected it to get. Up to 24 now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bubbler86 Posted March 30, 2022 Author Share Posted March 30, 2022 Just now, mahantango#1 said: Thanks! no sailing. Got down to 21 this morning, was colder than I expected it to get. Up to 24 now. LOL, wow 21. That is 11 more than me. Is that the SS Pillow? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mahantango#1 Posted March 30, 2022 Share Posted March 30, 2022 Just now, Bubbler86 said: LOL, wow 21. That is 11 more than me. Is that the SS Pillow? I'm afraid so Voyager was the captain on our quest to find warmer weather. Some things aren't meant to be! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pasnownut Posted March 30, 2022 Share Posted March 30, 2022 1 hour ago, mahantango#1 said: How does this happen in todays world? We can do better to eliminate this. Snow squalls that caused 50-car pileup went undetected by weather radar almost 2 hours after crash https://www.pennlive.com/news/2022/03/snow-squalls-that-caused-50-car-pileup-went-undetected-by-weather-radar-almost-2-hours-after-crash.html?utm_medium=social&utm_source=facebook&utm_campaign=pennlive_sf&fbclid=IwAR317BxOM1FvBMVBC-WA8V8Djv1K19xXNsDJu1_M Well this is a loaded one for sure. You can blame a myriad of things...weather, society for the push push, radar...whatevs, but at the end of the day, the person behind the wheel takes much of it (I'm guilty as charged btw). IMO with todays technology, with many vehicles having NAV/GPS, I'd think it'd be easy for all vehicles to require one, and when you are going through areas like this stretch which is notoriously dangerous, they could set speed restrictions between mile markers x and y....and when you pass through (just like turnpike toll booths), your car restricts to set speed parameters. That was easy... at the end of the day, I prefer it up to us, but I'd think something like above isnt too far fetched... Pics that I saw were horrible and thoughts and prayers go out to all involved. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pasnownut Posted March 30, 2022 Share Posted March 30, 2022 oh and partly cloudy w/ peeks of sun and 28 on ride in this AM. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mount Joy Snowman Posted March 30, 2022 Share Posted March 30, 2022 1 hour ago, mahantango#1 said: How does this happen in todays world? We can do better to eliminate this. Snow squalls that caused 50-car pileup went undetected by weather radar almost 2 hours after crash https://www.pennlive.com/news/2022/03/snow-squalls-that-caused-50-car-pileup-went-undetected-by-weather-radar-almost-2-hours-after-crash.html?utm_medium=social&utm_source=facebook&utm_campaign=pennlive_sf&fbclid=IwAR317BxOM1FvBMVBC-WA8V8Djv1K19xXNsDJu1_M Yeah the radar hole, which is at its worst over the Lebanon/Schuylkill County areas and particularly bad for low-topped cloud events, is a real issue that everyone is aware of. You have to rely on visible satellites, highway cams, on-the-ground reports, and the like. Not ideal. Eric Horst was tweeting about this after the event and mentioned the push to get another weather radar somewhere in the vicinity of MDT or MU; not sure if there is really anything to that but it would go a long way towards solving the problem. It frustrates all of us. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mahantango#1 Posted March 30, 2022 Share Posted March 30, 2022 2 minutes ago, Mount Joy Snowman said: Yeah the radar hole, which is at its worst over the Lebanon/Schuylkill County areas and particularly bad for low-topped cloud events, is a real issue that everyone is aware of. You have to rely on visible satellites, highway cams, on-the-ground reports, and the like. Not ideal. Eric Horst was tweeting about this after the event and mentioned the push to get another weather radar somewhere in the vicinity of MDT or MU; not sure if there is really anything to that but it would go a long way towards solving the problem. It frustrates all of us. For safety sake there should be another radar installed in that area Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bubbler86 Posted March 30, 2022 Author Share Posted March 30, 2022 Transitioned to freezing rain here. 31. Some accretion on raised surfaces. Roads should be safe with the temp slated top rise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paweather Posted March 30, 2022 Share Posted March 30, 2022 Not in the best position but it may be back to getting closer. Stay tuned. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mount Joy Snowman Posted March 30, 2022 Share Posted March 30, 2022 Low of 23 here overnight. It's still pretty dry near the surface here with a current temp of 31 and dew of 17. Not sure we see much of anything in the way of measurable precip out this way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bubbler86 Posted March 30, 2022 Author Share Posted March 30, 2022 7 minutes ago, paweather said: Not in the best position but it may be back to getting closer. Stay tuned. I saw that as well. Good find. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paweather Posted March 30, 2022 Share Posted March 30, 2022 8 minutes ago, Bubbler86 said: I saw that as well. Good find. Yep maintain some hope but at least there is some. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bubbler86 Posted March 30, 2022 Author Share Posted March 30, 2022 6 minutes ago, paweather said: Yep maintain some hope but at least there is some. Yea, do not listen to anyone who says otherwise. It may snow again, it may not. Anything outside 3-5 days is fantasy casting sometimes. Just fun to follow the ups and downs of the models. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paweather Posted March 30, 2022 Share Posted March 30, 2022 3 minutes ago, Bubbler86 said: Yea, do not listen to anyone who says otherwise. It may snow again, it may not. Anything outside 3-5 days is fantasy casting sometimes. Just fun to follow the ups and downs of the models. Yep exactly same with me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paweather Posted March 30, 2022 Share Posted March 30, 2022 Here comes some snow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pasnownut Posted March 30, 2022 Share Posted March 30, 2022 58 minutes ago, Mount Joy Snowman said: Yeah the radar hole, which is at its worst over the Lebanon/Schuylkill County areas and particularly bad for low-topped cloud events, is a real issue that everyone is aware of. You have to rely on visible satellites, highway cams, on-the-ground reports, and the like. Not ideal. Eric Horst was tweeting about this after the event and mentioned the push to get another weather radar somewhere in the vicinity of MDT or MU; not sure if there is really anything to that but it would go a long way towards solving the problem. It frustrates all of us. I guess the part that is a disconnect w/ radar being touted as the problem....is that bye and large, its mostly weather weenies like us that would be hyperfocused on a radar screen in search of snow. Moreover, even if it existed, it might help fill small donut holes, but when CTP issued a snow squall warning and it pops on screen, that's really all they can do is heighten awareness. It still falls on said individual to heed warning. Most of us have seen the videos in the last couple days, and when its a white out like we saw....that falls on the driver to slow down. Again, I've been guilty of it, so I'm not taking ANY high road here, but from what I saw, many of those folks were really cruisin along IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pasnownut Posted March 30, 2022 Share Posted March 30, 2022 23 minutes ago, Bubbler86 said: Yea, do not listen to anyone who says otherwise. It may snow again, it may not. Anything outside 3-5 days is fantasy casting sometimes. Just fun to follow the ups and downs of the models. lol noone here said that.... but keep adding up your 300 hr snow maps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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