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MLK 2022 Storm Potential


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1 minute ago, psuhoffman said:

I know the storm you're talking about and it was a different setup.  Models missed a higher mid level warm layer around 700 mb.  I am only bringing this up because I am very familiar with central PA climo from my years at PSU.  For them a perfect setup is a cut off amplified H5 moving through around DC with a surface low tracking up inland but east of the blue ridge.  In winter with a cold airmass in place that should be a setup for a big snowstorm in places like Deep Creek, Altoona, State college, not a change to ice and dry slot!  It doesn't matter for us...just saying its kinda ridiculous to have a H5 and surface track near DC and a flip to non snow all the way to extreme northwestern PA.  Put that in perspective...thats the equivalent of a H5 tracking across southern NC and Cape Hatteras and a surface low tracking off the NC coast and 100 miles east of Ocean City and us flipping over!  

yea, and that's just as annoying as a sharp cutoff like a couple weeks ago.  hopefully it's wrong, but there's a lot of consensus towards that high just not being in the right spot.

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10 minutes ago, leesburg 04 said:

I'm hard pressed to remember a storm where the NAM didn't play the role of boogeyman

I'm hard pressed to remember a storm track like the one the models are spitting out. I was convinced 3 days ago this would either cut or ride the coast. Weird times we live in.

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5 minutes ago, psuhoffman said:

Except its not just the NAM.  Check out the RGEM.   Changes to sleet and freezing rain all the way to Erie! 

That's wild, I just looked.  12z GFS also has this thin pocket of warm air aloft at 850mb west of the Apps at 0z Monday.  Seems that there's a 850-700mb secondary low that moves west of the Apps and brings that warm air aloft.  Interesting.  

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First time checking in since earlier this AM. Was expecting semi-happy hour. Seems like there is most definitely some drinks being poured, but more like pour one out for our dead storm. Eff it! I’ll enjoy the 10 seconds of flurries and sleet and move on to next weekend. Izzy! (TWCs stupid name). You’re freaking dead to me! Middle finger emoji. :lol:

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We all lol at projected ice totals, but we better hope they're wrong this time. We have cold air locked in ahead of the event and this is falling at night, with wind behind. A couple counties could get whacked pretty hard with decent power outages and trees into houses, especially once you get up towards Frederick.

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3 minutes ago, Scraff said:

First time checking in since earlier this AM. Was expecting semi-happy hour. Seems like there is most definitely some drinks being poured, but more like pour one out for our dead storm. Eff it! I’ll enjoy the 10 seconds of flurries and sleet and move on to next weekend. Izzy! (TWCs stupid name). You’re freaking dead to me! Middle finger emoji. :lol:

I even heard Cantori turned around and went home.  What if nature made a storm and nobody came?

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2 minutes ago, Eskimo Joe said:

We all lol at project ice totals, but we better hope they're wrong this time. We have cold air locked in ahead of the event and this is falling at night, with wind behind. A couple counties could get whacked pretty hard with decent power outages and trees into houses, especially once you get up towards Frederick.

I am hoping everyone that is going to get ice gets a couple of inches of snow first. It would help a ton. 

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52 minutes ago, psuhoffman said:

It did...but that storm the low tracked up into the delmarva and the warm layer blasted some sleet and a dry slot into south central PA to places like Harrisburg.  That was significantly further NW than thinking...but I've seen that before, especially with a bad upper level track in that case.  But here the upper and mid level track is through VA just south of DC.  The surface track is up just west of the bay.  And the NAM is mixing with sleet and freezing rain all the way to Lake Erie.  That seems a bit off.  Ive never seen THAT!  

The 2016 President's day storm might be a better analog in this situation. That was a truly arctic airmass going into it.. but the cold air was scoured away incredibly quickly with a rather intrusive LP track. Single digits to 50s in just a day. 

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