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MLK 2022 Storm Potential


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Just now, Chris78 said:

Seems the general idea has been locked in for a couple days now.

We just have to hope that the WWA precip comes in hot and heavy and the mid levels can hang on for a few extra hours.

A couple of hours of hanging on the mid levels could make a big difference if we are talking 1 - 2" per hour rates.

All 3 major globals seem to be in step with each other with some minor differences. 

 

 

 

Can't speak for out your way, but I looked at soundings on the GFS for up here, there is the most subtle warm nose at hr87, with temps at 30/31. By 90 I'm at 32, but it would probably be paste bombs. 

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2 minutes ago, mappy said:

Can't speak for out your way, but I looked at soundings on the GFS for up here, there is the most subtle warm nose at hr87, with temps at 30/31. By 90 I'm at 32, but it would probably be paste bombs. 

That makes me feel good about the setup here. 

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4 minutes ago, mappy said:

Can't speak for out your way, but I looked at soundings on the GFS for up here, there is the most subtle warm nose at hr87, with temps at 30/31. By 90 I'm at 32, but it would probably be paste bombs. 

I'm not looking at soundings here cause I know the entire column here will be 

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2 minutes ago, WinterWxLuvr said:

That makes me feel good about the setup here. 

you should have felt good days ago, friend. we are good. 

Even the hours where temps and the warm nose are being a pain, if rates are good enough, it won't matter. 

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8 minutes ago, WinterWxLuvr said:

No way we are at the final solution yet. For me I don’t like that it is now flying through here. When you can measure the duration by how many Netflix shows you can get in, that’s too fast.

Your in a better spot than northern MD  in my opinion

 

I guess it has to do with the location of where the low gets pulled NW but all models have a surge in the mids that cut through Central md and pulls nw up into South Central PA. I think you latitude helps you out in Winchester as the low is closer to your Lat . Before it gets pulled west. If you look at 850s all models have this carve out with Winchesters 850s staying in a better spot.

I think Winchester and a bit south of there might be the best spot to be in the sub forum other than maybe the western Md/ WV mountains

 

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1 minute ago, Chris78 said:

Your in a better spot than northern MD  in my opinion

 

I guess it has to do with the location of where the low gets pulled NW but all models have a surge in the mids that cut through Central md and pulls nw up into South Central PA. I think you latitude helps you out in Winchester as the low is closer to your Lat . Before it gets pulled west. If you look at 850s all models have this carve out with Winchesters 850s staying in a better spot.

I think Winchester and a bit south of there might be the best spot to be in the sub forum other than maybe the western Md/ WV mountains

 

Again, I don’t think we are seeing the end result. What looks good now could look worse later. Of course that works both ways.

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Where is Jebman? We need some positivity around here.

I could be in denial, but I don’t think anything is set in stone yet. Look what happened on Jan 3rd - from nothing to 6-12 inches with 48 hours notice.   I don’t expect to have all snow, but we could end up with snow to sleet and back to a thump of snow.  It definitely wouldn’t be the 1st time the models couldn’t figure out a coastal. I’m in Western Fairfax, so we are still in the game for a decent amount at this point, but I hope for some shifts eastward in the next 24. 

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It’s not really going to be about latitude here. Our issue is how far west this storm comes, allowing an easterly wind to torch upper levels. You can be at the PA/MD border north of Baltimore or up in Philly or New York City and still see the same result as places further south than you along the same longitude. 

There is going to be an east to west snow gradient. Not the typical “as long as you’re further north” deal we have around these parts. Could very well see places like Manchester get 2-4” before a slopfest occurs as Emmitsburg or Hancock gets 6-12+, despite having a similar latitude. Could also see DC with more snow than Baltimore because of this. If this low indeed tracks over Baltimore or west, York & Lancaster PA will meet a similar fate as Baltimore.  

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I've seen this script before, as have many (all?) of you being active in this and the Eastern US weather boards over the last 15+ years. My bar along and east of 95 here in the beltway region is 2.5-3.5" before the flip. Yes, with strong WAA and a retreating high the snow always seems to come in faster. ...but then the changeover seems to happen a little quicker too. I have no issues with the GFS snow maps given what we know now.

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