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MLK 2022 Storm Potential


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Just now, Weather Will said:

No expert but is the NAM further south or just moving more slowly then GFS?

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It is further south but still gaining latitude quickly as it moves east with the NS shortwave digging south. Difficult to say if it would end up much different for our region. Go ahead and extrapolate lol.

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2 minutes ago, CAPE said:

It is further south but still gaining latitude quickly as it moves east with the NS shortwave digging south. Difficult to say if it would end up much different for our region. Go ahead and extrapolate lol.

yea i do wonder about some of the west or east trends mentioned when that could easily be due to slower or faster.  probably why it's best to wait until the run is over to draw conclusions, too.

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It would be nice to see the NAM trend east with the H5 low, not just south. It also looks to be about 6hrs slower than the GFS. If you overlay them taking the delay into account, the NAM is further south but they are similar. The NAM looks to have a hellacious phase thereafter and the trof axis is still too far west. This run was "better" but the improvements were exaggerated IMO.

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5 minutes ago, 87storms said:

yea i do wonder about some of the west or east trends mentioned when that could easily be due to slower or faster.  probably why it's best to wait until the run is over to draw conclusions, too.

That is what I was wondering. I see slower, certainly. I don't see yet that it will result in E-SE though for our area.

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8 minutes ago, WxUSAF said:

My intuition is farther south = less northern stream interaction = slower.  The pull from the northern stream shortwave is what speeds it up once it gets captured and starts moving N/NW.  

This is where what Bob said about how it goes once it rounds the base will not be known for a while.  Change that NS tug and placement and it changes the track 

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22 minutes ago, 87storms said:

Jan 2000 went pretty severely negative (it basically got scooped up by the trailing vort) but also pretty uncommon.

Thats what some guidance was showing as the Midwest sw dives into the trof to energize the system. But will that energy do a Jan 25, 2000 like you and guidance alluded to? Or will it dive in an energize the developing system? Or will it act more as a kicker to nudge it east? Maybe even a blend. 

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