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MLK 2022 Storm Potential


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2 minutes ago, stormtracker said:

In all seriousness, it's a little better than 0z.  A little.

It is.  GFS/Euro blend is a solid front end for the metro corridor with 3-6".  Hard to tell how much rain still, but obviously a huge dry slot.  Less surface reflection west of the Apps helps concentrate the WAA right into our area, so we get a really solid 6-8 hours of snow.  Hard to see that we'll get a GEFS mean like offshore track, but even one that goes Richmond-->lower DE-->ACY could be a big improvement with limited non-frozen precip while also giving us the best WAA snow. 

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2 minutes ago, SomeguyfromTakomaPark said:

Better thump, that’s all the matters.  Who cares about the changeover when it’s dark and late anyway. 

Regardless of what falls, it looks like it'll be a precip bomb. This is a pretty juicy 1hr panel as depicted on the Euro

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Here's 850s at the end of that timeframe. 

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Should be pretty interesting once mesos get into range. 

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1 minute ago, LeesburgWx said:

Is the center really going to hook NW like this? I know, I know. But really?

If it gets captured early as depicted on models, sadly. We’ve seen many storms like this over the years where the evolution in the south / southeast is nearly perfect, but the trough axis isn’t or we have energy capturing our low and pulling it NW.

 

It’s going to be tough to see a low near the Carolina coastline with snow breaking out as far south as SC, just to see it get yanked NW and the mid levels get destroyed by an easterly fetch. Really hope models aren’t handling the NS correctly, but it’s hard to bank on that when every single OP run has a similar outcome. Hopefully more data by 00z tonight will help start a new and clear trend SE

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Just now, jayyy said:

If it gets captured early as depicted on models, sadly. We’ve seen many storms like this over the years where the evolution in the south / southeast is nearly perfect, but the trough axis isn’t or we have energy capturing our low and pulling it NW.

 

It’s going to be tough to see a low near the Carolina coastline with snow breaking out as far south as SC, just to see it get yanked NW and the mid levels get destroyed by an easterly fetch. Really hope models aren’t handling the NS correctly, but it’s hard to bank on that when every single OP run has a similar outcome. Hopefully more data by 00z tonight will help start a new and clear trend SE

Look at the H5 charts. The high pressure is clearly funneling the system into the coastline like how you would get a September 1938 gale up in here.

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CMC and Euro demonstrate once again, as has been mentioned by smart folks, unless the NS backs off last minute there is not much influence to be had over the ultimate fate of the storm through other factors. That phasing is just so strong. Both models had significant jumps East with the h5 low for the first 72 hours and it really only marginally affected the storm track in the end. Even with what looks like a very nicely timed neutral tilt (could even be considered late, compared to last Monday) we can’t buy much time west of the low along 95. Just have to hope that piece is overdone. 

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10 minutes ago, NorthArlington101 said:

I'm rather stunned by the consistency of outcomes from a few days ago, especially for something with so many moving parts.

I was initially thinking ops may be out of whack because the uncommon solution in the face of "ok" upper levels kept ending up inland no matter what timing difference or 500mb shift. That tells us something in the "steering" is pretty stable. Then it became more clear to me. Track has far more to do with that hallway of weakness than anything that happens before with the storm itself. This has prob been rehashed a bunch. Haven't been reading much. 

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1 minute ago, Ji said:

me too lol. Im enjoying you troll and making memes since you have retired and am envisioning that life so im trying to make myself a better poster!

if you keep it up i may actually take you off ignore :ph34r:

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7 minutes ago, jaydreb said:

Pretty good mood in this thread all things considered.  Getting 10” of snow last week probably helps things for many of us.  

i mean my expectation for this la nina winter was pretty bad...and then December came lol....so yea

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13 minutes ago, jaydreb said:

Pretty good mood in this thread all things considered.  Getting 10” of snow last week probably helps things for many of us.  

Looks like many will hit or be above (I'm already above) climo from this storm. By mid January. In a La Nopenotthisyeara.

There's reason to be not so gloomy this year :)

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