dendrite Posted January 8, 2022 Share Posted January 8, 2022 Just now, DavisStraight said: Wind kicking up, blowing the snow around, wintry feel tonight. Hopefully it all blows out of my driveway so I don’t need to clean it up. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CT Valley Snowman Posted January 8, 2022 Share Posted January 8, 2022 Just missed the real good stuff here with 5.8, still a nice wintry appeal and fun snow day for the kids. Definitely a bit frustrating when banding has tended to set up just SE of here in winter events but I'll take what I can get. Hopefully far NW areas up toward Hippy and ALY get themselves a big time interior crusher. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dryslot Posted January 8, 2022 Share Posted January 8, 2022 2 hours ago, dendrite said: That was actually well modeled. Most models had more here than in the Berks. A little bit off here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dendrite Posted January 8, 2022 Share Posted January 8, 2022 4 minutes ago, dryslot said: A little bit off here. Yeah it wasn’t perfect…was more referring to E NH Vs the Berks. What was your w.e. there? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dryslot Posted January 8, 2022 Share Posted January 8, 2022 26 minutes ago, dendrite said: Yeah it wasn’t perfect…was more referring to E NH Vs the Berks. What was your w.e. there? 0.30" 3.5", 11.6:1, It was more on the granular side. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damage In Tolland Posted January 8, 2022 Share Posted January 8, 2022 Something I thought of. If you are one of the jacks and you get under the fluff band.. for example JC.. and he got 14”.. does that compact more than a 9-11” amount that was not directly under the fluff band? Another words .. does the town that got 14” of Uber fluff and the town two miles away that got 10”. Do they both end up with about the same amount OTG by the following day? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WinterWolf Posted January 8, 2022 Share Posted January 8, 2022 I’ll be honest…I had a lil over 9” here, and it’s compacted big time just today! This is Uber Puff and Fluff!! Blizzard of February 2006 was the same way…20+ inches of fluff(it was beautiful) compacted down to nothing in a couple(mild) days! It’s gorgeous, but it has Zero staying power. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rimetree Posted January 8, 2022 Share Posted January 8, 2022 Finished with 7.5" new here. Not bad. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wxsniss Posted January 8, 2022 Share Posted January 8, 2022 It was an interesting event and one I’ll want to look over in more detail the next few days. The PVA was really strong and in an almost perfect spot to maximize lift which undoubtedly helped take advantage of that strong ML fronto….but we never were able to get the conveyors cranking which is too bad because it prob would’ve been widespread 8-12 with 18 lollis if it did…but we have no room to complain where we are considering how well we did. And while I understand eduggs’ sentiment on convective feedback, it is a real thing that we’ve seen happen. Even on short lead time, but usually you won’t have every single model showing it at 24 hours if it’s spurious. However, the convection can still be real but the models are overdoing the conveyor disruption…and that is really more what was being followed last night rather than hoping the convective feedback was mostly spurious. It’s not necessarily a binary event. If the convective interference was being overdone by even 30 or 40%, then that would matter. Yeah was thinking last night we should have been more tipped off by the realtime obs of an overproducer in KY/WV. I'm faulting myself for not weighing that more and being too misled by HRRR/RAP trends. The ML fronto 3-8am was really the main story of the event and saved the higher-end forecasts. Conveyor mechanics were definitely not the best. We saw a little 850 easterly advection in the second half after 12z give a bit of regeneration to radar returns, but it wasn't anywhere like our more organized storms. So, taking out the ML fronto band (boosted with higher SLRs), I think the convective interference did significantly diminish the overall storm outcome. All hobbyist thoughts... you and Coastal and others are great teachers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dendrite Posted January 8, 2022 Share Posted January 8, 2022 Just now, Damage In Tolland said: Something I thought of. If you are one of the jacks and you get under the fluff band.. for example JC.. and he got 14”.. does that compact more than a 9-11” amount that was not directly under the fluff band? Another words .. does the rush that got 14” of Uber fluff and the town two miles Sat that got 10”. Do they both end up with about the same amount OTG by the following day? There’s a few factors…amounts of certain snow crystals in the pack (feathery dendrites vs more compact crystals), strength of wind (drifting), relative humidity (sublimation), weight of snow in the pack (the weight of the snow upon itself), etc. I’m going to assume he had more water equivalent than you which explains his higher total. So the rates of compaction will probably be similar assuming you both had similar percentages of large dendritic growth. However he’ll still have more in the very near term… at least until those 30s creep in. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DavisStraight Posted January 8, 2022 Share Posted January 8, 2022 Im already down to about 6 inches, hopefully Sundays liquid will freeze into it and give me a solid base. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tunafish Posted January 8, 2022 Share Posted January 8, 2022 58 minutes ago, dryslot said: 0.30" 3.5", 11.6:1, It was more on the granular side. 0.53" LE for 5.4" here... 7AM - 0.9" new, 0.13 LE1PM - 4.4" new, 0.38 LE7PM - 0.1" new, 0.02 LE 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kdxken Posted January 8, 2022 Share Posted January 8, 2022 Tad under a foot at the farm. 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rgwp96 Posted January 8, 2022 Share Posted January 8, 2022 1 hour ago, dryslot said: 0.30" 3.5", 11.6:1, It was more on the granular side. Yea same in nw jersey . Le . Was 36 and 4 inches . Was like sand 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JC-CT Posted January 8, 2022 Share Posted January 8, 2022 1 hour ago, dendrite said: There’s a few factors…amounts of certain snow crystals in the pack (feathery dendrites vs more compact crystals), strength of wind (drifting), relative humidity (sublimation), weight of snow in the pack (the weight of the snow upon itself), etc. I’m going to assume he had more water equivalent than you which explains his higher total. So the rates of compaction will probably be similar assuming you both had similar percentages of large dendritic growth. However he’ll still have more in the very near term… at least until those 30s creep in. We compact Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TauntonBlizzard2013 Posted January 8, 2022 Share Posted January 8, 2022 We worked hard for our 8.5” here. That’s for sure 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rgwp96 Posted January 8, 2022 Share Posted January 8, 2022 1 hour ago, Damage In Tolland said: Something I thought of. If you are one of the jacks and you get under the fluff band.. for example JC.. and he got 14”.. does that compact more than a 9-11” amount that was not directly under the fluff band? Another words .. does the town that got 14” of Uber fluff and the town two miles away that got 10”. Do they both end up with about the same amount OTG by the following day? I would think if they had equal L.E. they will both have same otg within 24hrs after compaction. Fluff looks great but goes down fast Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TauntonBlizzard2013 Posted January 8, 2022 Share Posted January 8, 2022 When I woke up early this morning and saw all the CT posters doing naked snow angels again I figured Ray was either filling up the bathtub with toaster in hand, or in the fast lane on 93 furiously driving towards the Tobin. If there’s ever a doubt, just pencil somewhere in CT for the mega band Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
powderfreak Posted January 8, 2022 Share Posted January 8, 2022 17 minutes ago, rgwp96 said: I would think if they had equal L.E. they will both have same otg within 24hrs after compaction. Fluff looks great but goes down fast Snow likes to find 10:1 ratios eventually in my experience, or near there. But those under the band almost certainly had more QPF as well. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
powderfreak Posted January 8, 2022 Share Posted January 8, 2022 5 hours ago, 40/70 Benchmark said: I thought the Berkshires would ratio their way to a few inches of fluff...wow We ratioed at the ski area this afternoon/evening. Nothing like 0.10-0.15” and like 4-5” . J.Spin pulling 50-65:1 ratios the past two days in his liquid analysis. When like 0.03-0.04” water is 2”/hr. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HinghamBoss Posted January 8, 2022 Share Posted January 8, 2022 3 hours ago, Damage In Tolland said: Scooter.. Trained spotter in S . Wey . 9.7” Is this your report? I’m calling bogus on that 12” Hingham report. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
40/70 Benchmark Posted January 8, 2022 Author Share Posted January 8, 2022 24 minutes ago, TauntonBlizzard2013 said: When I woke up early this morning and saw all the CT posters doing naked snow angels again I figured Ray was either filling up the bathtub with toaster in hand, or in the fast lane on 93 furiously driving towards the Tobin. If there’s ever a doubt, just pencil somewhere in CT for the mega band I set my alarm for 615, but I had a feeling the band was in CT and sw of Boston, the usual spots....so I went back to bed until 9am without even looking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoarfrostHubb Posted January 8, 2022 Share Posted January 8, 2022 13 hours ago, NeonPeon said: Good lord that is typical. I ended up with about 3.5 inches. Cement then a powder puff on top. Drive in any direction and the snow immediately gets deeper. A friend of my son lives in Bristol for school. This was the first snow event he has seen there. He texted our son “so it does something besides rain here?” Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted January 8, 2022 Share Posted January 8, 2022 7 minutes ago, HoarfrostHubb said: A friend of my son lives in Bristol for school. This was the first snow event he has seen there. He texted our son “so it does something besides rain here?” Bristol got about 6” I think? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoarfrostHubb Posted January 8, 2022 Share Posted January 8, 2022 2 minutes ago, CoastalWx said: Bristol got about 6” I think? I think he texted our son 4” but prob just eyeballed it. Not a weather weenie. Bristol can also vary quite a bit since it is on a peninsula Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted January 8, 2022 Share Posted January 8, 2022 1 minute ago, HoarfrostHubb said: I think he texted our son 4” but prob just eyeballed it. Not a weather weenie. Bristol can also vary quite a bit since it is on a peninsula Yeah I know a meteorologist there. I think he had about 6” where he lives. Cool town though. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoarfrostHubb Posted January 8, 2022 Share Posted January 8, 2022 1 minute ago, CoastalWx said: Yeah I know a meteorologist there. I think he had about 6” where he lives. Cool town though. I would consider moving there when I retire. There is a tax consideration that might prevent it (plus it is $$$). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
codfishsnowman Posted January 8, 2022 Share Posted January 8, 2022 4.3 final.... definitely not powder or arctic sand, just reg snow and we only lost about half an inch since yesterday so it def had a little water in it It is amazing how well the places who crushed yesterday crushed so many other times in recent years. Kinda agree with 40/70 on this Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
das Posted January 8, 2022 Share Posted January 8, 2022 2.8” was the final all the way out here on the west coast of New England. Was sitting at a paltry (and expected) 1.4” when the wraparound picked up some moisture off of the lakes and dropped another 1.4” over 2.5 hours late afternoon. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhineasC Posted January 8, 2022 Share Posted January 8, 2022 I logged in 4” as my final. Half synoptic and half upslope basically. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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