CNY_WX Posted January 7, 2022 Share Posted January 7, 2022 6 minutes ago, Syrmax said: SN+ has slipped back in here. With wind. Same here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CNY_WX Posted January 7, 2022 Share Posted January 7, 2022 Temperature has dropped to 18. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Syrmax Posted January 7, 2022 Share Posted January 7, 2022 1 minute ago, CNY_WX said: Temperature has dropped to 18. Radar looking pretty stable/solid attm. This could hang in a while perhaps. nws has 1-4" here this eve. Which might be on. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rochesterdave Posted January 7, 2022 Share Posted January 7, 2022 Finally getting some love along the lake in Monroe 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tim123 Posted January 7, 2022 Share Posted January 7, 2022 Some nice streamers in roc 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CNY_WX Posted January 7, 2022 Share Posted January 7, 2022 Channel 9 is calling for 1-3 inches this event in the most persistent bands. I’ll have the 3 inches in an hour if this keeps up. Edit: Should read 1-3 this evening. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wolfie09 Posted January 7, 2022 Share Posted January 7, 2022 We have had steady snow the last couple hours or so with the occasional heavier burst..Wind has been fierce lol 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CNY_WX Posted January 7, 2022 Share Posted January 7, 2022 5 minutes ago, wolfie09 said: We have had steady snow the last couple hours or so with the occasional heavier burst..Wind has been fierce lol That dark green band at the southern edge of the returns is right over me. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Syrmax Posted January 7, 2022 Share Posted January 7, 2022 5 minutes ago, CNY_WX said: That dark green band at the southern edge of the returns is right over me. It's over me also. Easily 1"/hr stuff. Probably more. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CNY_WX Posted January 7, 2022 Share Posted January 7, 2022 9 minutes ago, Syrmax said: It's over me also. Easily 1"/hr stuff. Probably more. It does appear to be slowly sinking south so we’ll see how long we can stay in it. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vortmax Posted January 7, 2022 Share Posted January 7, 2022 These bands seem to be heavier away from the lakes. Is this just an orographic thing? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Syrmax Posted January 7, 2022 Share Posted January 7, 2022 5 minutes ago, vortmax said: These bands seem to be heavier away from the lakes. Is this just an orographic thing? Frictional effects causing some lift I believe...sort of like a pileup, airmass gets backed up slightly and lifted and wrings out precip as it moves from lake to over land... At least that's my crude understanding. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vortmax Posted January 7, 2022 Share Posted January 7, 2022 5 minutes ago, Syrmax said: Frictional effects causing some lift I believe...sort of like a pileup, airmass gets backed up slightly and lifted and wrings out precip as it moves from lake to over land... At least that's my crude understanding. Ah yes, frictional convergence based on the coastline shape and then orographic lifting. We've been getting squat in western Wayne cty...bummed. Can't even get the grass fully covered! My kids are NOT happy...lol 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sferic Posted January 7, 2022 Share Posted January 7, 2022 Heavy Snow in Cicero (AT least by Long Island Standards) I'd say an inch an hour; gorgeous Please stay this way until Midnight! @TugHillMatt @CNY_WX Love it ! 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Syrmax Posted January 7, 2022 Share Posted January 7, 2022 Heaviest is slowly sagging south but rate is still pretty decent here. Some backfilling seems to be occurring for now.. Looks like another 2" has fallen. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TugHillMatt Posted January 7, 2022 Share Posted January 7, 2022 Pounding snow again for the past hour. Approaching double digits! 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TugHillMatt Posted January 7, 2022 Share Posted January 7, 2022 40 minutes ago, sferic said: Heavy Snow in Cicero (AT least by Long Island Standards) I'd say an inch an hour; gorgeous Please stay this way until Midnight! @TugHillMatt @CNY_WX Love it ! So excited for you as you experience a lake effect event for the first time. The size of the dendrites in these bands are one of my favorite things. Still pounding here on the NW side. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rochesterdave Posted January 7, 2022 Share Posted January 7, 2022 5 minutes ago, TugHillMatt said: So excited for you as you experience a lake effect event for the first time. The size of the dendrites in these bands are one of my favorite things. Still pounding here on the NW side. This is your second good one. I knew someone would do ok on the backside. Congratulations! Enjoy it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CNY_WX Posted January 7, 2022 Share Posted January 7, 2022 24 minutes ago, Blue Moon said: What do you figure the ratios are right now? It's been in the 20s in Oswego today, and it's currently 21. If 15:1 is reasonable then it's safe to say our QPF for the past 24 hours is around 0.07 in. I’ll let you know the LE and ratio in the morning when I take my measurement. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tim123 Posted January 7, 2022 Share Posted January 7, 2022 Don't look like much on radar but these bands are stout. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LakeEffectKing Posted January 7, 2022 Share Posted January 7, 2022 Just got home in Caz...5.5".....started moderate snow here about 1/2 hour ago after couple hour break. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sferic Posted January 8, 2022 Share Posted January 8, 2022 5" OTG in Cicero as of 7:15PM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TugHillMatt Posted January 8, 2022 Share Posted January 8, 2022 48 minutes ago, Blue Moon said: What do you figure the ratios are right now? It's been in the 20s in Oswego today, and it's currently 21. If 15:1 is reasonable then it's safe to say our QPF for the past 24 hours is around 0.07 in. It's quite common for lake effect, especially at these temps, to be 20:1. Welcome to the land of lake effect FLUFF! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TugHillMatt Posted January 8, 2022 Share Posted January 8, 2022 45 minutes ago, rochesterdave said: This is your second good one. I knew someone would do ok on the backside. Congratulations! Enjoy it. Thanks! With Sunday hopefully being a very short warmup, I think this one will stay around much longer than the good one from before Thanksgiving. I didn't think we would get more with this event, but it's looking like it. Definitely an overperformer if one goes by NWS forecast. @LakeEffectKingdid a great job with this one! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tim123 Posted January 8, 2022 Share Posted January 8, 2022 15 minutes ago, TugHillMatt said: It's quite common for lake effect, especially at these temps, to be 20:1. Welcome to the land of lake effect FLUFF! I have seen 40 to 1 ratios. Get 3 inches and can still see ground. Lol 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TugHillMatt Posted January 8, 2022 Share Posted January 8, 2022 Just now, tim123 said: I have seen 40 to 1 ratios. Get 3 inches and can still see ground. Lol So true! That's the stuff that melts in a heartbeat as the sun's rays incinerate it. haha 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sferic Posted January 8, 2022 Share Posted January 8, 2022 Hey guys, Still snowing lightly in Cicero at 8:40PM even though radarscope pro and other radar apps show nada. Is there a radar product that you can recommend that can pick up precip in situations like this? Thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TugHillMatt Posted January 8, 2022 Share Posted January 8, 2022 2 minutes ago, sferic said: Hey guys, Still snowing lightly in Cicero at 8:40PM even though radarscope pro and other radar apps show nada. Is there a radar product that you can recommend that can pick up precip in situations like this? Thanks! Radarscope is probably one of the best options for that. It's something you'll just have to accept about living here. When the temps get into the teens like this, precip. often doesn't show up on the radars. They have trouble picking up on the limited moisture in the cold air (that is still enough to produce for us.) Also, not sure if you saw my post earlier, we're on the fringes of the 3 different radar areas in Upstate NY, so sometimes it appears as a black hole of no precip. no matter what radar you look at. Still enjoying watching the flakes fall here as well. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wolfie09 Posted January 8, 2022 Share Posted January 8, 2022 Here is a good explanation.. Lake effect snow clouds are relatively low in the atmosphere compared to rain and especially thunderstorms. Lake effect snow cloud tops are usually no higher than 10,000 feet. Compare this to a thunderstorm that can be a tall as 50,000 feet. Weather radar starts out as a signal transmitted from the radar dome near the ground. The radar beam is shot out of the radar at a slight upward angle. This has to happen so the beam can radiate out away from the dome and so the return signals do not hit the ground at the radar site. If that happened there would be no radar image as you are used to seeing. As the radar beam travels up and out at an angle, the radar beam travels higher in the atmosphere. By the time the radar beam is 50 miles from the radar site, the radar beam is 5,000 feet up in the air. At 90 miles out the radar beam is 10,000 feet high. The low nature of lake effect snow means the weather radar beam can shoot right over the top of the lake effect snow and not “see it.” That is why you will often look out the window in the U.P. of Michigan and it is snowing hard. Then you look at a radar image, and it doesn’t show snow at your location. Snow chasers will watch the radar and never see the snow on the screen but they are surprised to learn how much fresh snow actually did fall. https://www.snowtechmagazine.com/why-does-lake-effect-snow-not-show-up-on-the-radar/ 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sferic Posted January 8, 2022 Share Posted January 8, 2022 15 minutes ago, TugHillMatt said: Radarscope is probably one of the best options for that. It's something you'll just have to accept about living here. When the temps get into the teens like this, precip. often doesn't show up on the radars. They have trouble picking up on the limited moisture in the cold air (that is still enough to produce for us.) Also, not sure if you saw my post earlier, we're on the fringes of the 3 different radar areas in Upstate NY, so sometimes it appears as a black hole of no precip. no matter what radar you look at. Still enjoying watching the flakes fall here as well. Your posts are great , Matt I'm slowly acclimating and learning the meteorological nuances that are specific to this part of the state What is you guess on high temps on Tuesday? Do you think we can stay in the single digits? I know this is not the Adirondacks or Southern Tier but have there been days where temps in our area don't make it above zero? Thanks again 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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