Interior NW & NE Burbs 2022

[IrishRob17]

33/31 with snow, a slick coating on everything. 

[crossbowftw3]

Rain definitely got in the mix overnight even to my location; car tops and trees have been cleaned off, even “holes” in the existing pack thereby making any accurate measurement difficult

 

HRRR somehow suggests another 4-5” today for me, even 8-9” for the high points north of me but I don’t believe that 

[gravitylover]

Other than the dense .2" coating I got around 11:15pm during that burst of insanely huge flakes this was a net loss. There's nothing left on the ground, even my shovel piles are gone. 

Onward >>>> 

[sn0w]

3 hours ago, gravitylover said:

Other than the dense .2" coating I got around 11:15pm during that burst of insanely huge flakes this was a net loss. There's nothing left on the ground, even my shovel piles are gone. 

Onward >>>> 

Elevation definitely played a huge role around here...my new house is at @ 430 feet right on the border of Mahopac and Carmel and we barely got any slowflakes and zero coating of any kind.

[crossbowftw3]

Most everywhere else in Sullivan seemed to have gotten 7+ while I maybe got in the ballpark of 4-6” which then became waterlogged during the night 

 

if this last thump does transpire maybe 1-3” more on top

[gravitylover]

@sn0wIt was a very short lived episode and it turned to rain soon after so if you weren't awake and looking out you may have missed it. 

[crossbowftw3]

19 minutes ago, crossbowftw3 said:

Most everywhere else in Sullivan seemed to have gotten 7+ while I maybe got in the ballpark of 4-6” which then became waterlogged during the night 

 

if this last thump does transpire maybe 1-3” more on top

And just as I said this the white rain began in earnest

[Juliancolton]

On 12/15/2022 at 12:36 PM, Juliancolton said:

Today would have been a great track with a little deeper and more distinct low. Hopefully the Christmas Eve system is similarly tucked.

OK but not that tucked

[IrishRob17]

1 hour ago, Juliancolton said:

OK but not that tucked

Its rather fitting, something has to wipe out the snow right before Christmas I have been lucky enough to accumulate in the yard

[snywx]

1 hour ago, IrishRob17 said:

Its rather fitting, something has to wipe out the snow right before Christmas I have been lucky enough to accumulate in the yard

It’s amazing how A grinch storm has become the norm now. 

[IrishRob17]

1 hour ago, snywx said:

It’s amazing how A grinch storm has become the norm now. 

I distinctly remember December 1981 as snowy albeit I was a mere 9 years old, but there are scenes from that month burned into my memory forever. I went back and looked at the COOP record for Walden. Now we lived in Fishkill back then but this report gives you a sense of the month. It was indeed a snowy mid month period but look at those high temps on Christmas Eve and Day!  Even rain too on 12/23!

[LibertyBell]

12 hours ago, IrishRob17 said:

I distinctly remember December 1981 as snowy albeit I was a mere 9 years old, but there are scenes from that month burned into my memory forever. I went back and looked at the COOP record for Walden. Now we lived in Fishkill back then but this report gives you a sense of the month. It was indeed a snowy mid month period but look at those high temps on Christmas Eve and Day!  Even rain too on 12/23!

Wow the 1980s were generally much colder (prior to February anyway lol).....check out Christmas 1980, a covering of snow and below zero Christmas morning in the city!  The last time that's happened on Christmas.

 

[IrishRob17]

1 hour ago, LibertyBell said:

Wow the 1980s were generally much colder (prior to February anyway lol).....check out Christmas 1980, a covering of snow and below zero Christmas morning in the city!  The last time that's happened on Christmas.

 

I remember that one too. Here I are the 12/80 stats from the same location in Walden.

[LibertyBell]

21 minutes ago, IrishRob17 said:

I remember that one too. Here I are the 12/80 stats from the same location in Walden.

Wow thanks I am saving this.  This is one of my very first weather memories.  I have very dim memories of the late 70s and early 80s.....like a dim memory of the Feb 1978 blizzard from when I was 4 what I remember is giant icicles hanging outside the window, from the Christmas 1980 arctic outbreak, very windy conditions and brutal cold, and then it's the January 1982 snowstorm with the plane going down in the Potomac and then the epic April 1982 blizzard and another snow event a week later.  My next big memory after that is the February 1983 blizzard and then more regular memories after that (next one after that is Hurricane Gloria but I was already in 7th grade in September 1985 so the memories are more continuous by then.)

So -9 was the low there on Christmas and 1" of new snow!

 

I wonder if this is the lowest temperature at which 1.0" or more of snow has fallen in our region (although I'm sure it was snowing when it was warmer than that-- just after the arctic front moved in?)

 

[Juliancolton]

It was a sneaky Currier & Ives morning with 1.0" of pasty snow glinting in the sunlight, and mist in the glens and hollows. All a distant memory now, of course. 35/35

[NorthShoreWx]

16 hours ago, IrishRob17 said:

I remember that one too. Here I are the 12/80 stats from the same location in Walden.

16 hours ago, IrishRob17 said:

I remember that one too. Here I are the 12/80 stats from the same location in Walden.

 

Those temperatures are off by a day.  The 12/25 temperatures are actually from 12/24 and the temperatures shown for 12/26 are from 12/25.  Of course that might be dependent on what the observer considered the time of observation.

[IrishRob17]

We flurry.

[snywx]

It feels like winter right now.. too bad that vicious cutter is gonna decimate the solid 4” snowpack outside. Took a drive up Greenville turnpike to the top of Greenville mountain about 5 miles to my west… shocked to see how much snow there is above 1200’. Solid 6-7” up there. 

[Juliancolton]

From near 60 to mid-teens in six hours on Friday night.

[BxEngine]

14 minutes ago, Juliancolton said:

From near 60 to mid-teens in six hours on Friday night.

This might rival my jebwalk during the boxing day storm. Dunno if its still a jebwalk if its not snowing tho. I need a ruling. 

[Juliancolton]

3 minutes ago, BxEngine said:

This might rival my jebwalk during the boxing day storm. Dunno if its still a jebwalk if its not snowing tho. I need a ruling. 

Some of the best jebwalks don't have any snow.

[hudsonvalley21]

44 minutes ago, BxEngine said:

This might rival my jebwalk during the boxing day storm. Dunno if its still a jebwalk if its not snowing tho. I need a ruling. 

How bout some flash frozen black ice.  

[hudsonvalley21]

1 hour ago, Juliancolton said:

From near 60 to mid-teens in six hours on Friday night.

Black ice and frozen car door locks could be a possibility. 

[gravitylover]

Did any other towns brine the roads yesterday? Why bother with the rain incoming before the freeze? Speaking of freeze, what time on Friday is the temp expected to drop below freezing? My kid has to drive home from work and she has no experience with that. 

[IrishRob17]

3 hours ago, gravitylover said:

Did any other towns brine the roads yesterday? Why bother with the rain incoming before the freeze? Speaking of freeze, what time on Friday is the temp expected to drop below freezing? My kid has to drive home from work and she has no experience with that. 

Depends on which model you look at but maybe as early 5-6pm over there?  The front will have to be monitored on Friday. The good news is that Upton not expecting a flash freeze. 

[hudsonvalley21]

2 hours ago, IrishRob17 said:

Depends on which model you look at but maybe as early 5-6pm over there?  The front will have to be monitored on Friday. The good news is that Upton not expecting a flash freeze. 

Definitely something to monitor Friday afternoon/evening. Walt mentioned in the other thread we could get a quick 0.2-1.5” snowburst. Along with the winds and temp drop. Roads could get a little slick especially the bridges and overpasses. 

[gravitylover]

Upton has the cold getting here later than Walt, I'm inclined to go with our guy here. I know how challenging it can be to get around the hills here when it freezes up like this has the potential to. Looks like I might be taking her to work and waiting for her to get out, I'd rather be the one to deal with it than her. 

[IrishRob17]

There's definitely potential out there on Friday, it'll just be a 'game time decision' based on how Friday evolves.  Makes prefect sense to err on the side of caution.  Honestly, I was kind of surprised to read Upton's thoughts on it this morning. 

[Juliancolton]

Nice day today. Feels a little springlike with the grass all bare and ducks dabbling in open sections of the pond. 

[IrishRob17]

On 12/18/2022 at 12:38 AM, NorthShoreWx said:

Those temperatures are off by a day.  The 12/25 temperatures are actually from 12/24 and the temperatures shown for 12/26 are from 12/25.  Of course that might be dependent on what the observer considered the time of observation.

I finally found some time to come back to this.  Here is 12/80 from the Yorktown observer and it reflects similar to the Walden observations.  Was it a case of a midnight high on 12/25 perhaps?