hudsonvalley21 Posted January 29, 2022 Share Posted January 29, 2022 1 hour ago, LaGrangewx said: 3 inches or so here. Sugary arctic powder blown all over. Family in Marshfield has 2 feet and they’ll end up over 30. The same here a little over 3” and the same texture. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gravitylover Posted January 29, 2022 Share Posted January 29, 2022 16° and the roads are wet. That's gotta be good for the car Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
North and West Posted January 29, 2022 Share Posted January 29, 2022 Got meatballs going after shoveling and sledding in stupid cold conditions.. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hudsonvalley21 Posted January 29, 2022 Share Posted January 29, 2022 3 hours ago, Juliancolton said: The same here. Please just kill me if I ever again spend 10 days tracking 2.3" of snow. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IrishRob17 Posted January 29, 2022 Author Share Posted January 29, 2022 22 hours ago, BxEngine said: The yuengling Hersheys chocolate porters are a great snowstorm beer fwiw I forgot they like to freeze…Bud Light still all liquid though, go figure. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hudsonvalley21 Posted January 29, 2022 Share Posted January 29, 2022 6 minutes ago, gravitylover said: 16° and the roads are wet. That's gotta be good for the car You can almost hear the wiring dry rotting 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Juliancolton Posted January 29, 2022 Share Posted January 29, 2022 My 2.3" melted down to .33" for an epic ratio of 7:1. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CPcantmeasuresnow Posted January 30, 2022 Share Posted January 30, 2022 The finally tally here is an even 9 inches. I started to doubt myself even though I measured in several spots and went on the NWS site and saw a trained spotter recorded 8.4 inches from Highland Mills. I picked up over 2.5 inches of it from 9:15 to 11:15, accumulating snow stopped within the next half hour. Definitely exceeded my expectations. Seems to happen a lot here. Must be something about the topography and just being south enough and east enough without being close to the river. Elevation is only 650 feet so it's about average in the town. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IrishRob17 Posted January 30, 2022 Author Share Posted January 30, 2022 24 minutes ago, Juliancolton said: My 2.3" melted down to .33" for an epic ratio of 7:1. Mine was .24, so just less than 10:1. To be fair, I didn’t check it yesterday after I came home from work so maybe there was .01 in there from yesterday’s light snow that mostly melted. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IrishRob17 Posted January 30, 2022 Author Share Posted January 30, 2022 5 minutes ago, CPcantmeasuresnow said: The finally tally here is an even 9 inches. I started to doubt myself even though I measured in several spots and went on the NWS site and saw a trained spotter recorded 8.4 inches from Highland Mills. I picked up over 2.5 inches of it from 9:15 to 11:15, accumulating snow stopped within the next half hour. Definitely exceeded my expectations. Seems to happen a lot here. Must be something about the topography and just being south enough and east enough without being close to the river. Elevation is only 650 feet so it's about average in the town. Do you have a Stratus? I’d love to know what your liquid equivalent is. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BxEngine Posted January 30, 2022 Share Posted January 30, 2022 4 minutes ago, IrishRob17 said: Do you have a Stratus? I’d love to know what your liquid equivalent is. Liquid equivalent of the girls he gets drivin around in his stratus? Immeasurable. 2 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Juliancolton Posted January 30, 2022 Share Posted January 30, 2022 6 minutes ago, IrishRob17 said: Mine was .24, so just less than 10:1. To be fair, I didn’t check it yesterday after I came home from work so maybe there was .01 in there from yesterday’s light snow that mostly melted. Hmm, I didn't expect that much of a difference. I feel quite confident in my core sample, so either I under-measured my snow or we really did just take different routes to get to the same place. I'll have to corroborate with cocorahs reports in the morning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IrishRob17 Posted January 30, 2022 Author Share Posted January 30, 2022 2 minutes ago, Juliancolton said: Hmm, I didn't expect that much of a difference. I feel quite confident in my core sample, so either I under-measured my snow or we really did just take different routes to get to the same place. I'll have to corroborate with cocorahs reports in the morning. Yep, that’s what I’m going to do too. We can race to see who posts it first in the morning LOL 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IrishRob17 Posted January 30, 2022 Author Share Posted January 30, 2022 10 minutes ago, BxEngine said: Liquid equivalent of the girls he gets drivin around in his stratus? Immeasurable. Prom car? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BxEngine Posted January 30, 2022 Share Posted January 30, 2022 6 minutes ago, IrishRob17 said: Prom car? No i had an electric blue pontiac sunfire, it was hideous lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CPcantmeasuresnow Posted January 30, 2022 Share Posted January 30, 2022 1 hour ago, hudsonvalley21 said: The same here a little over 3” and the same texture. Really, three inches? I can’t believe the difference is that extreme 8 miles away. Very odd, I usually get more than New Windsor but not to that extreme. Are you in butterhill or near the river? I lived in butterhill in the late 80’s early 90’s and always found myself on the short end of snowfalls. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CPcantmeasuresnow Posted January 30, 2022 Share Posted January 30, 2022 38 minutes ago, IrishRob17 said: Do you have a Stratus? I’d love to know what your liquid equivalent is. You mean bxengines car? No, I have no idea what a stratus is, other than a cloud type. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IrishRob17 Posted January 30, 2022 Author Share Posted January 30, 2022 16 hours ago, BxEngine said: No i had an electric blue pontiac sunfire, it was hideous lol My friend talked his mother into renting a town car for us. He damn near wrecked it taking a corner too fast, the best part of which was my prom date sliding across the back seat into to me with all that God had bestowed upon her…let’s just say I had my hands full. That was the most action I got that night from that innocent catholic girl who went in to marry a doctor and have 6 kids. Clearly that night was her last “slumming it”. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IrishRob17 Posted January 30, 2022 Author Share Posted January 30, 2022 8 minutes ago, CPcantmeasuresnow said: You mean bxengines car? No, I have no idea what a stratus is, other than a cloud type. It’s a rain gauge that can also be used to catch snow when you take the top off and smaller cylinder out to then melt down to get the LE and it can be used to get the LE in the snowpack 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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snywx Posted January 30, 2022 Share Posted January 30, 2022 1 hour ago, CPcantmeasuresnow said: The finally tally here is an even 9 inches. I started to doubt myself even though I measured in several spots and went on the NWS site and saw a trained spotter recorded 8.4 inches from Highland Mills. I picked up over 2.5 inches of it from 9:15 to 11:15, accumulating snow stopped within the next half hour. Definitely exceeded my expectations. Seems to happen a lot here. Must be something about the topography and just being south enough and east enough without being close to the river. Elevation is only 650 feet so it's about average in the town. My folks in Highland Mills measured 8.5”. That town is such a weenie spot lol 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hudsonvalley21 Posted January 30, 2022 Share Posted January 30, 2022 2 hours ago, IrishRob17 said: Prom car? More like this 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hudsonvalley21 Posted January 30, 2022 Share Posted January 30, 2022 1 hour ago, CPcantmeasuresnow said: Really, three inches? I can’t believe the difference is that extreme 8 miles away. Very odd, I usually get more than New Windsor but not to that extreme. Are you in butterhill or near the river? I lived in butterhill in the late 80’s early 90’s and always found myself on the short end of snowfalls. Butterhill. It still is on the short end. I think it’s orographics, elevation, and proximity to Storm king mtn. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snywx Posted January 30, 2022 Share Posted January 30, 2022 3.4” here current temp of 7 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Juliancolton Posted January 30, 2022 Share Posted January 30, 2022 On 1/28/2022 at 12:14 PM, Juliancolton said: Well, right or wrong, the time has come for my final call. Time is running out for those of us in the interior NW burbs to realize a major storm. The mesos are not only correcting east a bit but also trending toward more strung-out cyclogenesis, which will focus the precip shield along the SW/NE axis. I no longer believe we're in contention for the deform band, and in fact may spend most of the time under enhanced subsidence. The WV loop, while a thing of beauty, shows no major surprises at this stage. HPN: 6.8" SWF: 4.5" MGJ: 2.9" POU: 3.4" Verification based on closest reports from Albany and Upton PNS and NWSChat: HPN (Armonk): 8.4" (+1.6) SWF (Gardnertown): 4.0" (-0.5) MGJ (3 WSW Middletown): 3.5" (+0.6) POU (4 SSE Poughkeepsie): 2.5" (-0.9) Should have tightened up the gradient a bit, but not bad. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
White Gorilla Posted January 30, 2022 Share Posted January 30, 2022 13 hours ago, Juliancolton said: Verification based on closest reports from Albany and Upton PNS and NWSChat: HPN (Armonk): 8.4" (+1.6) SWF (Gardnertown): 4.0" (-0.5) MGJ (3 WSW Middletown): 3.5" (+0.6) POU (4 SSE Poughkeepsie): 2.5" (-0.9) Should have tightened up the gradient a bit, but not bad. Not bad at all!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Juliancolton Posted January 30, 2022 Share Posted January 30, 2022 16 hours ago, Juliancolton said: Hmm, I didn't expect that much of a difference. I feel quite confident in my core sample, so either I under-measured my snow or we really did just take different routes to get to the same place. I'll have to corroborate with cocorahs reports in the morning. OK, here we go. Here are the three closest observers to me. My LE is very much in-line with these, no issues there. The problem is that DT-8 and DT-12, located roughly equidistant from me in opposite directions, both measured 60% more snow than I did. I measured on my usual snow board in the middle of a big open field, far away from any obstructions and, therefore, drifting. The snow was dry but dense, consistent with heavily fractured crystals and a windswept storm. To add a little more data, I just went out and took some sample measurements throughout my yard of the loose snow depth sitting atop the crusty old pack that had been through many freeze/thaw cycles. I found one spot where my ruler went in 3.3" before hitting solid ice, but most were closer to 3.1". This encompasses 0.9" on Monday, 0.7" on Friday morning, and my apparent 2.3" Friday night to Saturday morning. The first two events were high-ratio, and likely compressed heavily with the weight of new snowfall (not to mention sublimation and any surface melting), but yesterday's snow wouldn't have been subject to nearly as much compaction after the end of the storm. This morning's "depth" makes it hard for me to believe that I severely under-measured. So, was saltation much more prevalent at my house vs. surrounding points for some reason? It was definitely windy, but I get the impression it was windy just about everywhere. I wish I could be sure I wasn't overlooking something obvious. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IrishRob17 Posted January 30, 2022 Author Share Posted January 30, 2022 20 minutes ago, Juliancolton said: OK, here we go. Here are the three closest observers to me. My LE is very much in-line with these, no issues there. The problem is that DT-8 and DT-12, located roughly equidistant from me in opposite directions, both measured 60% more snow than I did. I measured on my usual snow board in the middle of a big open field, far away from any obstructions and, therefore, drifting. The snow was dry but dense, consistent with heavily fractured crystals and a windswept storm. To add a little more data, I just went out and took some sample measurements throughout my yard of the loose snow depth sitting atop the crusty old pack that had been through many freeze/thaw cycles. I found one spot where my ruler went in 3.3" before hitting solid ice, but most were closer to 3.1". This encompasses 0.9" on Monday, 0.7" on Friday morning, and my apparent 2.3" Friday night to Saturday morning. The first two events were high-ratio, and likely compressed heavily with the weight of new snowfall (not to mention sublimation and any surface melting), but yesterday's snow wouldn't have been subject to nearly as much compaction after the end of the storm. This morning's "depth" makes it hard for me to believe that I severely under-measured. So, was saltation much more prevalent at my house vs. surrounding points for some reason? It was definitely windy, but I get the impression it was windy just about everywhere. I wish I could be sure I wasn't overlooking something obvious. Thanks to @wdrag I make a point to refer to these now. Clearly the Walden site has an issue with the precipitation as they must’ve had more than that but here you go, precipitation and snowfall from Friday morning through this morning. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Juliancolton Posted January 30, 2022 Share Posted January 30, 2022 6 minutes ago, IrishRob17 said: Thanks to @wdrag I make a point to refer to these now. Clearly the Walden site has an issue with the precipitation as they must’ve had more than that but here you go, precipitation and snowfall from Friday morning through this morning. I just realized I'm a complete idiot and forgot that the Friday morning snow is included in those totals. That brings me much closer to the pack. Dumb. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wdrag Posted January 30, 2022 Share Posted January 30, 2022 3 hours ago, IrishRob17 said: Thanks to @wdrag I make a point to refer to these now. Clearly the Walden site has an issue with the precipitation as they must’ve had more than that but here you go, precipitation and snowfall from Friday morning through this morning. Water Equivalent is notoriously a troubling aspect of snowfall-especiallyASOS. CoCoRaHs observers know what to do but it's difficult. I'm sure snow ratios were at least 12-20 to 1, which brings up CP had .90" water equivalent and only 8.5" of snow. These reports need to be taken as general idea. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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