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January 3 CAPE Storm


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1 minute ago, IronTy said:

It can really stop moving north now thank you.  

I bet the mean/consensus of today's 12z runs will be about where it ends up.  The storm is forming now and the models are "seeing" the diabetic energy release.  

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Now that h5 is closed and/or aggressive on all models, time to have fun with pin the tail on the almost certain frontogen band on the NW periphery. Models right now have it SE of the fall line. Does that ever happen with h5 passes like this? Climo has been showing up in the model trends....

Eta: another perspective is parrs/climo favored areas are still dancing  in the subsidence zone... how often does that verify?

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Just now, Bob Chill said:

Now that h5 is closed and/or aggressive on all models, time to have fun with pin the tail on the almost certain frontogen band on the new periphery. Models right now have it SE of the fall line. Does that ever happen with h5 passes like this? Climo has been showing up in the model trends....

Go on?

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3 minutes ago, Bob Chill said:

Now that h5 is closed and/or aggressive on all models, time to have fun with pin the tail on the almost certain frontogen band on the NW periphery. Models right now have it SE of the fall line. Does that ever happen with h5 passes like this? Climo has been showing up in the model trends....

As a newly moved to monkton person, do go on…

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4 minutes ago, Bob Chill said:

Now that h5 is closed and/or aggressive on all models, time to have fun with pin the tail on the almost certain frontogen band on the NW periphery. Models right now have it SE of the fall line. Does that ever happen with h5 passes like this? Climo has been showing up in the model trends....

Eta: another perspective is parrs/climo favored areas are still dancing  in the subsidence zone... how often does that verify?

Yes do tell, sir...(although I'm not sure whether Baltimore is truly a NW periphery, lol)

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3 minutes ago, Bob Chill said:

Now that h5 is closed and/or aggressive on all models, time to have fun with pin the tail on the almost certain frontogen band on the NW periphery. Models right now have it SE of the fall line. Does that ever happen with h5 passes like this? Climo has been showing up in the model trends....

You're right in general, but not sure this is one is going to be able to climb the coast enough to place it in the usual spot.

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Just now, CAPE said:

You're right in general, but not sure this is one is going to be able to climb the coast enough to place it in the usual spot.

I tend to agree, but take a look at the cross section plot in my post from an hour ago. Clearly shows 2 areas with max omega in the DGZ. One north of DC in the colder air, one south with the frontogen max.

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1 minute ago, CAPE said:

You're right in general, but not sure this is one is going to be able to climb the coast enough to place it in the usual spot.

You know I agree with you but it always finds a way.... maybe the vigor of the upper low on the current track "forces the band" to where it should be... idk man... somehow someway...

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2 minutes ago, Bob Chill said:

You know I agree with you but it always finds a way.... maybe the vigor of the upper low on the current track "forces the band" to where it should be... idk man... somehow someway...

I think those that tend to panic in the group might read this as it screws the SE when clearly there's enough buffer that it's highly unlikely that just because the usual jackpot areas get in on the fun this time it doesn't appear to be to the detriment of our SE enemies I mean friends :hurrbear:

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1 minute ago, WxUSAF said:

I tend to agree, but take a look at the cross section plot in my post from an hour ago. Clearly shows 2 areas with max omega in the DGZ. One north of DC in the colder air, one south with the frontogen max.

I did see that. The enhancement due to terrain is a thing. And Mount PSU will have high ratio snow start to finish, so he is good for at least a half foot of fluff even if on the northern edge.

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11 minutes ago, Maestrobjwa said:

Yes do tell, sir...(although I'm not sure whether Baltimore is truly a NW periphery, lol)

I'm not talking any kind of shift in the track of the upper low. Just that there's always "THE BAND" in the cold side of storms like this on the northern edge of the precip shield and NW of the band usually gets mad AF with light rates and "pulsey" precip. Right now the climo favored zones are dangerously close to the subsidence zone. It happens sometimes. Like in the 2013-15 stretch but far more often than not...

I'm not talking about the corridor like our houses. We're in very good spot considering crappy temps and rates usually try to screw the pooch. I'm not expecting a jack but in this particular case... I like where my yard is. 

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