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January 3 CAPE Storm


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54 minutes ago, WinterWxLuvr said:

Can you elaborate here. This is an aspect I don’t understand all that well. Thanks in advance to any who reply.

The WV is often the easiest way to see the mid level flow and moisture transport. 
 

Start of the loop you can pick out the mid level low and associated flow. It’s still positively tilted here (flow has a west to east component to it). Here it’s SW to NE

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but by the end of the loop you can see the flow is “backing” or taking on less W to E component. It’s almost neutral here. 
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If the flow actually takes on some E to W component that’s when it’s negative (against the predominant W-E mid lat flow). 
 

The sooner the flow backs the more likely the system will be more amplified and come further north. Or at the least have a more expansive precip shield due to better moisture transport into the cold sector north of the low track. 

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1 minute ago, psuhoffman said:

The WV is often the easiest way to see the mid level flow and moisture transport. 
 

Start of the loop you can pick out the mid level low and associated flow. It’s still positively tilted here (flow has a west to east component to it). Here it’s SW to NE

24r10J1.jpg

but by the end of the loop you can see the flow is “backing” or taking on less W to E component. It’s almost neutral here. 
0yJvJhy.jpg

If the flow actually takes on some E to W component that’s when it’s negative (against the predominant W-E mid lat flow). 
 

The sooner the flow backs the more likely the system will be more amplified and come further north. Or at the least have a more expansive precip shield due to better moisture transport into the cold sector north of the low track. 

Oh wow thank you for that.

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Although warm we’ve been w cloudy for days so no sun ground warmth.  Once it starts the top 1/2” of the soil gets cold enough to accumulate the snow.  What the more pronounced effect can be is that as snow pack deepens the warm radiates out and melts somewhat from bottom upward

warm ground, daytime and 33-34 is really tough almost no matter what the rates.  Nighttime and 30-32 not an issue. 

 

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5 minutes ago, psuhoffman said:

The WV is often the easiest way to see the mid level flow and moisture transport. 
 

Start of the loop you can pick out the mid level low and associated flow. It’s still positively tilted here (flow has a west to east component to it). Here it’s SW to NE

24r10J1.jpg

but by the end of the loop you can see the flow is “backing” or taking on less W to E component. It’s almost neutral here. 
0yJvJhy.jpg

If the flow actually takes on some E to W component that’s when it’s negative (against the predominant W-E mid lat flow). 
 

The sooner the flow backs the more likely the system will be more amplified and come further north. Or at the least have a more expansive precip shield due to better moisture transport into the cold sector north of the low track. 

Going to be a pretty cool loop over the next 12hrs when the troff rapidly establishes a negative tilt.

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1 minute ago, WEATHER53 said:

Although warm we’ve been w cloudy for days so no sun ground warmth.  Once it starts the top 1/2” of the soil gets cold enough to accumulate the snow.  What the more pronounced effect can be is that as snow pack deepens the warm radiates out and melts somewhat from bottom upward

warm ground, daytime and 33-34 is really tough almost no matter what the rates.  Nighttime and 30-32 not an issue. 

 

That melting from the bottom up can create awful roads one r the temp goes well below freezing

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2 minutes ago, WinterWxLuvr said:

That melting from the bottom up can create awful roads one r the temp goes well below freezing

It’s also gonna be cold tomorrow night, anything that falls tomorrow will hard freeze 

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Just now, WinterWxLuvr said:

That melting from the bottom up can create awful roads one r the temp goes well below freezing

It could be a nightmare, that's for sure. No one's really thinking about snow in Canton it seems due to the temps today. Target still had shovels galore. And so, I parked my car near the top of an uphill one-way. Hopefully everyone having trouble driving up just slides back down harmlessly... condolences to the cars at the bottom.

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